https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....unter-GathererQuote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
Clust very close to Sardinians...
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https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....unter-GathererQuote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
Clust very close to Sardinians...
At the haplogroup level, it's true, but not at the autosomal level. My father who is from the North of France can be modeled as 44% Barcin and 42% Indo-European. Even at 30% the contribution remains important to speak of an autosomal victory for the Indo-Europeans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamm
yepQuote:
Originally Posted by dududud
all of Europe was once Sardinian-like
Model him with corded ware Baltic early instead of yamnaya and what he gets?Quote:
Originally Posted by dududud
The details still matter and I'm not really bothered about being Indo-European. I'm just interested in genetics period and all the details. I'm not complexed about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dududud
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/99/2f...992f826887.jpg
The chad HG vs the virgin farmer
https://i.imgur.com/J7ZpHPX.jpg
HG: Has club
Black men with blue eyes
Lives in the moment, doesn't care if half it's population is wiped out by a tsunami.
Always reconstructed with dope mullets
Has a Farmer MTDNA haplogroup
Farmer:
Has only tools for farming
Just an ordinary black guy
Works for the man all day
Reconstructed bald
Has farmer MTDNA
https://i.imgur.com/oMmgOzM.jpg
It would be great to have history books divided by haplogroups, so proper credit and blame would be assigned.
I'd buy that for a shekel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nordarya
Send me datasheet. BruhQuote:
Originally Posted by Dick
Big brain farmer*Quote:
Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean
N3rDzQuote:
Originally Posted by dududud
dudeeeeQuote:
Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2...9946386973.jpg
Give out cumshots for books.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean
The I-men were too tall, dark and handsome. No homo.
Anyone want to try these samples?
This is my result.Code:Anatolia_Barcin_C:I1584,0.114961,0.147252,-0.037335,-0.062339,-0.005847,-0.01506,-0.00094,-0.010384,-0.011249,0.025878,0.009581,0.013638,-0.014569,-0.006468,-0.009365,-0.012463,0.009909,-0.006841,-0.002765,-0.011255,0.003369,0.008656,-0.005053,-0.002048,-0.011137
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Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1096,0.120652,0.184826,0.008297,-0.101745,0.051702,-0.044344,-0.005405,-0.003692,0.039473,0.0831,0.010718,0.017385,-0.02438,0.006331,-0.043702,-0.0179,0.025946,-0.00076,0.012821,-0.005878,-0.015722,0.00507,-0.005793,0.007832,-0.016406
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1097,0.120652,0.18178,-0.001886,-0.106591,0.054472,-0.048527,-0.00611,-0.007615,0.038246,0.084922,0.008769,0.014687,-0.022894,0.000413,-0.048859,-0.006629,0.021383,0.003421,0.013952,-0.015257,-0.013975,0.005441,-0.011462,-0.009158,-0.002515
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1098,0.114961,0.179749,-0.004148,-0.092701,0.040931,-0.045459,-0.001175,-0.010846,0.030883,0.068703,0.009743,0.007044,-0.019623,0.000688,-0.044381,-0.001326,0.032987,0.003294,0.006788,-0.001501,-0.01148,0.007914,0.007025,-0.002771,-0.00958
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1099,0.111547,0.19092,0.001508,-0.0969,0.055395,-0.04518,0.003525,-0.010615,0.037223,0.077997,0.006171,0.01124,-0.020515,0.00289,-0.039902,-0.016309,0.021644,0.00266,0.013324,-0.007504,-0.003868,0.002844,0.002588,-0.003012,-0.006347
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1100,0.112685,0.17264,-0.001131,-0.084949,0.049855,-0.054384,-0.00705,-0.002308,0.042132,0.088749,-0.003573,0.008692,-0.02557,-0.006881,-0.040173,-0.00769,0.031553,-0.00266,0.007793,-0.01063,-0.023708,-0.00136,0.003574,-0.003253,-0.001557
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1101,0.114961,0.179749,0.006411,-0.100776,0.054779,-0.043786,-0.00094,-0.000462,0.042541,0.078544,0.005684,0.008692,-0.023042,0.007432,-0.034744,-0.010209,0.01682,0.003927,0.018729,-0.006378,-0.020713,0.004575,-0.000616,-0.003133,-0.010179
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1102,0.106994,0.170609,0.00528,-0.097546,0.059703,-0.045459,-0.003995,-0.007846,0.030474,0.08474,0.005196,0.010041,-0.029732,-0.006193,-0.031759,0.001856,0.029597,0.002154,0.013073,-0.008754,-0.009109,0.010634,-0.003821,-0.003856,-0.002634
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1103,0.112685,0.169593,-0.006411,-0.10013,0.044008,-0.046854,-0.00705,-0.005538,0.039269,0.075992,0.011367,0.013638,-0.02215,-0.005505,-0.036644,-0.01127,0.019427,-0.002027,0.010559,-0.008004,-0.016346,0.005564,-0.011216,-0.009278,-0.006945
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1580,0.127482,0.182795,-0.003017,-0.103037,0.052317,-0.04769,-0.008695,-0.012692,0.040496,0.076904,0.007307,0.014987,-0.020961,-0.003716,-0.043159,0.001724,0.035986,-0.001647,0.006788,-0.009254,-0.010357,-0.001731,0.000246,-0.000482,-0.010298
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1581,0.113823,0.175687,0.001131,-0.110467,0.057241,-0.045459,-0.003995,-0.008077,0.040905,0.084558,0.004222,0.013488,-0.02215,-0.000826,-0.04248,0.003978,0.040549,0.004687,0.005405,-0.005628,-0.010731,0.00643,-0.013557,0.003494,-0.000958
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1583,0.119514,0.180764,0.00264,-0.10756,0.048932,-0.051037,-0.010575,-0.008769,0.035792,0.087656,0.012342,0.012139,-0.023786,0.005092,-0.036644,-0.006497,0.020861,0.002534,0.011816,-0.003877,-0.011729,0.004822,0.001232,-0.006748,-0.00491
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4432,0.135449,0.100537,0.188937,0.21092,0.110174,0.063587,0.011986,0.023768,0.055221,-0.016219,-0.004709,-0.021281,0.029137,-0.008395,0.039223,0.046141,0.002086,0.007348,-0.005154,0.04252,0.058771,0.008037,-0.029949,-0.119053,0.013771
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4434,0.122929,0.099522,0.185543,0.208013,0.104327,0.055499,0.013866,0.025153,0.055835,-0.02278,-0.003085,-0.018434,0.032111,-0.006055,0.035152,0.046937,0.005346,0.000253,-0.006285,0.046522,0.060269,0.019043,-0.015283,-0.111582,0.008622
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4438,0.12862,0.103584,0.175738,0.197354,0.104019,0.052989,0.007285,0.02123,0.044177,-0.029887,-0.000325,-0.019183,0.026759,-0.007432,0.034609,0.052108,-0.000261,0.007981,-0.006285,0.045522,0.059395,0.013973,-0.02884,-0.102424,0.012095
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4439,0.130897,0.102568,0.182149,0.197354,0.116945,0.055499,0.00799,0.020768,0.061562,-0.019681,-0.016401,-0.014387,0.030921,-0.003303,0.038816,0.05529,0.008605,0.004307,-0.01257,0.040644,0.072622,0.01422,-0.030689,-0.123391,0.003712
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4440,0.124067,0.109677,0.171213,0.191863,0.103096,0.0502,0.009635,0.021691,0.054403,-0.029704,-0.006171,-0.010341,0.028097,0.005918,0.02823,0.041633,-0.007302,0.009755,-0.004274,0.043271,0.058023,0.013107,-0.025266,-0.10857,0.007065
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4441,0.135449,0.093429,0.171967,0.188633,0.101557,0.049921,0.0047,0.020307,0.042336,-0.030433,-0.006008,-0.018284,0.026313,-0.00812,0.030673,0.039644,0.008605,-0.0019,-0.011061,0.042145,0.052782,0.022505,-0.024403,-0.105316,0.009939
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4550,0.130897,0.1046,0.184789,0.200907,0.125562,0.059125,0.009165,0.03046,0.069334,-0.020957,-0.005359,-0.017534,0.023786,-0.002064,0.045738,0.061124,0.005346,0.006334,-0.006159,0.044771,0.072497,0.00643,-0.031551,-0.130862,0.012813
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4551,0.132035,0.09546,0.178378,0.195739,0.09294,0.057173,0.002115,0.019384,0.050108,-0.03098,-0.003085,-0.014537,0.027651,-0.020781,0.040988,0.044948,0.003651,0.007981,-0.002011,0.043521,0.057523,0.00643,-0.02465,-0.099171,0.003952
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Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0439,0.127482,0.096475,0.037335,0.117896,-0.017542,0.038487,0.00329,-0.006,-0.052154,-0.057587,0.001949,-0.000599,-0.007582,-0.02257,0.038273,0.016441,-0.002217,-0.004941,-0.00352,0.018634,-0.001996,0.00643,0.015529,0.02663,-0.00934
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0443,0.124067,0.093429,0.039975,0.108206,-0.027082,0.045459,0.003995,-0.007154,-0.052563,-0.081642,0.001299,-3e-04,0.000595,-0.016515,0.044923,0.003978,-0.014212,-0.001394,-0.003771,0.013006,0.00262,0.000247,0.003944,0.018918,0.002036
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0444,0.125205,0.08632,0.045632,0.119188,-0.024928,0.047969,0.00564,-0.001154,-0.050108,-0.073259,0.002598,0.002847,0,-0.042663,0.029451,0.022938,-0.000522,0.003294,-0.010307,0.013131,-0.015098,0.004204,0.010846,0.016267,0.003952
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I7489,0.122929,0.090382,0.042238,0.110144,-0.03416,0.043507,0.004935,0.000692,-0.058085,-0.082735,0.005196,0.004046,-0.010406,-0.006881,0.041123,0.01485,-0.008345,-0.006588,-0.002388,0.006878,-0.010232,-0.001731,0.014173,0.018075,-0.006586
POL_Globular_Amphora:I2403,0.12862,0.158423,0.07203,-0.008721,0.090786,-0.023706,0.004935,0.006461,0.04929,0.066516,0.005684,0.013488,-0.018731,-0.016102,-0.013843,0.01127,0.021253,0.001774,0.00352,0.003252,0.00861,0.004204,-0.00949,-0.019521,-0.00012
POL_Globular_Amphora:I2433,0.126344,0.171624,0.05506,-0.019703,0.084939,-0.023427,-0.00329,0.006923,0.05379,0.075992,-0.006658,0.01169,-0.023042,-0.014313,-0.0057,0.000928,0.007693,0.007981,0.003017,0.001251,0.010107,0.01286,-0.012695,-0.022413,-0.006706
POL_Globular_Amphora:I2441,0.129758,0.178733,0.055437,-0.024871,0.084631,-0.022311,0.001645,0.006461,0.057471,0.082188,-0.001137,0.012589,-0.022596,-0.012661,-0.000814,0.005967,0.001695,0.004814,0.008673,0.000125,0.006613,0.003833,-0.008011,-0.019521,0.001557
POL_Globular_Amphora:N38,0.124067,0.164516,0.061471,-0.020026,0.085247,-0.012271,0.006345,0.003461,0.049904,0.07253,-0.001461,0.009442,-0.018731,-0.004404,-0.013436,-0.007558,0.008866,0.009375,0.004777,0.000875,0,0.008532,-0.009983,-0.02169,-0.000599
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.7820% / 0.02781968
48.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
45.4 POL_Globular_Amphora
6.0 Baltic_LVA_HG
Taking out GAC this is my result.
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 3.8125% / 0.03812539
45.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
34.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
20.6 Baltic_LVA_HG
Taking out the Baltic HG this is what I got.
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 6.7420% / 0.06742029
65.4 Yamnaya_RUS
34.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 6.7420% / 0.06742029
43.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
34.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
21.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia
Forgot to add WHG.
WHG didn't make any difference to my result I seem to favour Baltic_LVA_HG over WHG.Code:Anatolia_Barcin_C:I1584,0.114961,0.147252,-0.037335,-0.062339,-0.005847,-0.01506,-0.00094,-0.010384,-0.011249,0.025878,0.009581,0.013638,-0.014569,-0.006468,-0.009365,-0.012463,0.009909,-0.006841,-0.002765,-0.011255,0.003369,0.008656,-0.005053,-0.002048,-0.011137
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0707,0.122929,0.184826,0.001886,-0.110144,0.054779,-0.048527,0.00141,-0.011769,0.036201,0.08474,0.011205,0.016335,-0.021704,0.002615,-0.038409,-0.014187,0.022817,0.00114,0.012947,-0.002751,-0.011979,0.009645,-0.008627,0.001566,-0.001676
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0708,0.119514,0.173656,-0.003017,-0.101745,0.042469,-0.046854,-0.00094,-0.012692,0.021066,0.074717,0.009419,0.009142,-0.017691,0.000963,-0.041938,-0.007955,0.024121,0.000633,0.015209,-0.013882,-0.022336,0.008903,-0.012448,-0.012652,-0.007305
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0709,0.119514,0.19092,0.008674,-0.108206,0.050163,-0.044065,-0.00282,-0.003923,0.038655,0.088202,0.006983,0.012289,-0.023488,0.001789,-0.042345,-0.023999,0.002347,-0.003674,0.011941,-0.019759,-0.006239,0.012242,-0.000616,-0.00723,-0.002994
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0723,0.118376,0.178733,0.009805,-0.103037,0.057241,-0.05773,0.003525,0.000462,0.041518,0.080548,0.001624,0.004946,-0.027056,-0.005643,-0.043702,-0.006762,0.03729,0.00152,0.017975,-0.009254,-0.015473,0.002968,0.006779,-0.00012,-0.006227
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0724,0.117238,0.168578,0.018856,-0.10013,0.052933,-0.047969,-0.00094,-0.004384,0.031088,0.075446,0.008931,0.01139,-0.017691,-0.003303,-0.045059,0.001989,0.041853,0.012922,0.020363,-0.009755,-0.018717,0.004699,-0.007518,-0.001928,-0.008023
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0726,0.120652,0.180764,0.00264,-0.104653,0.053548,-0.054663,-0.005875,-0.002308,0.035383,0.088749,0.009743,0.015586,-0.027651,0.006881,-0.040716,-0.037655,-0.001825,0.002914,0.0225,-0.015382,-0.013351,0.007666,-0.004683,0.00253,0.006945
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0727,0.114961,0.185842,0.004525,-0.103683,0.036314,-0.053547,-0.00141,-0.008077,0.031088,0.077633,0.005846,0.01109,-0.031813,0.00055,-0.056052,-0.010607,0.022817,0.009122,0.032807,-0.015007,-0.017968,0.005441,-0.016022,-0.007953,0.008023
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0736,0.119514,0.183811,0.006788,-0.091732,0.049855,-0.049921,-0.0047,-0.006,0.04295,0.077815,0.012829,0.013338,-0.020961,-0.011423,-0.04058,0.005701,0.033248,-0.007475,0.007793,-0.007003,-0.016097,0.006306,-0.005916,-0.000964,-0.007544
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0744,0.119514,0.186857,0.009428,-0.107883,0.058472,-0.052989,-0.00987,-0.01223,0.03027,0.082371,0.010393,0.01139,-0.031813,0.003441,-0.048045,-0.011668,0.022426,0.000633,0.005279,-0.007253,-0.012852,-0.000124,-0.004683,0.002289,0.001796
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0745,0.118376,0.178733,-0.002263,-0.098838,0.049548,-0.046575,-0.010105,-0.002538,0.036814,0.075628,0.010068,0.014237,-0.017542,0.00812,-0.035966,-0.020949,0.005346,0.006334,0.020489,-0.014382,-0.017095,0.008037,0.001356,-0.009278,-0.004191
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0746,0.120652,0.180764,0.011691,-0.093024,0.048317,-0.043507,-0.012691,-0.010615,0.034565,0.078726,0.010393,0.009591,-0.023786,0.006606,-0.048316,-0.027844,0.005607,0.004054,0.012947,-0.017383,-0.013102,0.011005,-0.006532,-0.005543,-0.002036
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1096,0.120652,0.184826,0.008297,-0.101745,0.051702,-0.044344,-0.005405,-0.003692,0.039473,0.0831,0.010718,0.017385,-0.02438,0.006331,-0.043702,-0.0179,0.025946,-0.00076,0.012821,-0.005878,-0.015722,0.00507,-0.005793,0.007832,-0.016406
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1097,0.120652,0.18178,-0.001886,-0.106591,0.054472,-0.048527,-0.00611,-0.007615,0.038246,0.084922,0.008769,0.014687,-0.022894,0.000413,-0.048859,-0.006629,0.021383,0.003421,0.013952,-0.015257,-0.013975,0.005441,-0.011462,-0.009158,-0.002515
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1098,0.114961,0.179749,-0.004148,-0.092701,0.040931,-0.045459,-0.001175,-0.010846,0.030883,0.068703,0.009743,0.007044,-0.019623,0.000688,-0.044381,-0.001326,0.032987,0.003294,0.006788,-0.001501,-0.01148,0.007914,0.007025,-0.002771,-0.00958
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1099,0.111547,0.19092,0.001508,-0.0969,0.055395,-0.04518,0.003525,-0.010615,0.037223,0.077997,0.006171,0.01124,-0.020515,0.00289,-0.039902,-0.016309,0.021644,0.00266,0.013324,-0.007504,-0.003868,0.002844,0.002588,-0.003012,-0.006347
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1100,0.112685,0.17264,-0.001131,-0.084949,0.049855,-0.054384,-0.00705,-0.002308,0.042132,0.088749,-0.003573,0.008692,-0.02557,-0.006881,-0.040173,-0.00769,0.031553,-0.00266,0.007793,-0.01063,-0.023708,-0.00136,0.003574,-0.003253,-0.001557
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1101,0.114961,0.179749,0.006411,-0.100776,0.054779,-0.043786,-0.00094,-0.000462,0.042541,0.078544,0.005684,0.008692,-0.023042,0.007432,-0.034744,-0.010209,0.01682,0.003927,0.018729,-0.006378,-0.020713,0.004575,-0.000616,-0.003133,-0.010179
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1102,0.106994,0.170609,0.00528,-0.097546,0.059703,-0.045459,-0.003995,-0.007846,0.030474,0.08474,0.005196,0.010041,-0.029732,-0.006193,-0.031759,0.001856,0.029597,0.002154,0.013073,-0.008754,-0.009109,0.010634,-0.003821,-0.003856,-0.002634
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1103,0.112685,0.169593,-0.006411,-0.10013,0.044008,-0.046854,-0.00705,-0.005538,0.039269,0.075992,0.011367,0.013638,-0.02215,-0.005505,-0.036644,-0.01127,0.019427,-0.002027,0.010559,-0.008004,-0.016346,0.005564,-0.011216,-0.009278,-0.006945
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1580,0.127482,0.182795,-0.003017,-0.103037,0.052317,-0.04769,-0.008695,-0.012692,0.040496,0.076904,0.007307,0.014987,-0.020961,-0.003716,-0.043159,0.001724,0.035986,-0.001647,0.006788,-0.009254,-0.010357,-0.001731,0.000246,-0.000482,-0.010298
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1581,0.113823,0.175687,0.001131,-0.110467,0.057241,-0.045459,-0.003995,-0.008077,0.040905,0.084558,0.004222,0.013488,-0.02215,-0.000826,-0.04248,0.003978,0.040549,0.004687,0.005405,-0.005628,-0.010731,0.00643,-0.013557,0.003494,-0.000958
Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1583,0.119514,0.180764,0.00264,-0.10756,0.048932,-0.051037,-0.010575,-0.008769,0.035792,0.087656,0.012342,0.012139,-0.023786,0.005092,-0.036644,-0.006497,0.020861,0.002534,0.011816,-0.003877,-0.011729,0.004822,0.001232,-0.006748,-0.00491
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4432,0.135449,0.100537,0.188937,0.21092,0.110174,0.063587,0.011986,0.023768,0.055221,-0.016219,-0.004709,-0.021281,0.029137,-0.008395,0.039223,0.046141,0.002086,0.007348,-0.005154,0.04252,0.058771,0.008037,-0.029949,-0.119053,0.013771
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4434,0.122929,0.099522,0.185543,0.208013,0.104327,0.055499,0.013866,0.025153,0.055835,-0.02278,-0.003085,-0.018434,0.032111,-0.006055,0.035152,0.046937,0.005346,0.000253,-0.006285,0.046522,0.060269,0.019043,-0.015283,-0.111582,0.008622
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4438,0.12862,0.103584,0.175738,0.197354,0.104019,0.052989,0.007285,0.02123,0.044177,-0.029887,-0.000325,-0.019183,0.026759,-0.007432,0.034609,0.052108,-0.000261,0.007981,-0.006285,0.045522,0.059395,0.013973,-0.02884,-0.102424,0.012095
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4439,0.130897,0.102568,0.182149,0.197354,0.116945,0.055499,0.00799,0.020768,0.061562,-0.019681,-0.016401,-0.014387,0.030921,-0.003303,0.038816,0.05529,0.008605,0.004307,-0.01257,0.040644,0.072622,0.01422,-0.030689,-0.123391,0.003712
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4440,0.124067,0.109677,0.171213,0.191863,0.103096,0.0502,0.009635,0.021691,0.054403,-0.029704,-0.006171,-0.010341,0.028097,0.005918,0.02823,0.041633,-0.007302,0.009755,-0.004274,0.043271,0.058023,0.013107,-0.025266,-0.10857,0.007065
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4441,0.135449,0.093429,0.171967,0.188633,0.101557,0.049921,0.0047,0.020307,0.042336,-0.030433,-0.006008,-0.018284,0.026313,-0.00812,0.030673,0.039644,0.008605,-0.0019,-0.011061,0.042145,0.052782,0.022505,-0.024403,-0.105316,0.009939
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4550,0.130897,0.1046,0.184789,0.200907,0.125562,0.059125,0.009165,0.03046,0.069334,-0.020957,-0.005359,-0.017534,0.023786,-0.002064,0.045738,0.061124,0.005346,0.006334,-0.006159,0.044771,0.072497,0.00643,-0.031551,-0.130862,0.012813
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4551,0.132035,0.09546,0.178378,0.195739,0.09294,0.057173,0.002115,0.019384,0.050108,-0.03098,-0.003085,-0.014537,0.027651,-0.020781,0.040988,0.044948,0.003651,0.007981,-0.002011,0.043521,0.057523,0.00643,-0.02465,-0.099171,0.003952
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4552,0.135449,0.098506,0.185543,0.196385,0.10802,0.056894,0.0094,0.020768,0.048063,-0.027153,-0.004709,-0.020682,0.028989,-0.003716,0.03298,0.049854,0.008996,0.006461,0.000377,0.045272,0.063263,0.01422,-0.029826,-0.10869,0.009939
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4553,0.129758,0.100537,0.181395,0.199615,0.114483,0.051316,0.015981,0.021691,0.05379,-0.02278,-0.008444,-0.02218,0.028692,0,0.042345,0.057146,0.003651,-0.000253,0.001885,0.04102,0.061267,0.01793,-0.026375,-0.113992,0.007903
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4595,0.126344,0.093429,0.179887,0.187341,0.109559,0.055499,0.002585,0.023076,0.054608,-0.01549,-0.005521,-0.02218,0.027948,0.000963,0.033116,0.05224,0.011604,-0.001774,-0.007416,0.04202,0.063887,0.007048,-0.02354,-0.113631,0.015208
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4596,0.12862,0.098506,0.18592,0.191863,0.118791,0.058288,0.0094,0.019615,0.058085,-0.028064,0.004222,-0.020082,0.028394,-0.011285,0.031623,0.049456,0.005215,0.00076,-0.003897,0.042896,0.06788,0.008408,-0.033277,-0.116281,0.006347
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4626,0.121791,0.114755,0.184412,0.200584,0.110482,0.063308,0.002585,0.023537,0.05604,-0.017495,-0.007632,-0.017085,0.020664,0.010046,0.042345,0.036727,-0.008475,0.007728,-0.017221,0.039894,0.068754,0.027327,-0.035495,-0.136766,0.015208
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4628,0.127482,0.098506,0.177247,0.203491,0.108328,0.051595,0.013161,0.011538,0.048677,-0.032985,-0.002598,-0.020232,0.028543,0.002064,0.029858,0.040175,-0.008736,0.009628,-0.005656,0.04152,0.062265,0.00643,-0.016145,-0.107847,0.016765
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4630,0.124067,0.08632,0.167819,0.198,0.07386,0.057173,0.00423,0.005307,0.036405,-0.042461,0.004384,-0.009142,0.033597,-0.024634,0.02253,0.041766,0.00013,0.00114,-0.006913,0.036518,0.039805,0.013973,-0.016022,-0.075312,-0.002874
Baltic_LVA_HG:I4632,0.134311,0.106631,0.183281,0.187664,0.100634,0.059404,0.009635,0.023076,0.050517,-0.031162,-0.009419,-0.024278,0.028692,-0.009221,0.040988,0.053036,0.010691,-0.00038,-0.002137,0.039144,0.062639,0.009769,-0.029456,-0.103991,0.013053
Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia:RISE240,0.118376,0.085304,0.046009,0.111759,-0.022466,0.029005,0.008225,-0.000692,-0.050722,-0.061231,-0.000487,0.003147,0.001189,-0.026148,0.03393,0.004773,0.011995,-0.007981,-0.005908,0.020385,-0.011979,-0.001237,0.013064,0.024461,0.008861
Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia:RISE546,0.106994,0.090382,0.058454,0.121126,-0.03139,0.04769,0.00188,-0.002769,-0.065243,-0.087291,-0.00341,0.000899,-0.000892,-0.023671,0.007057,0.011138,0.006258,0.005194,0,0.001501,-0.004118,-0.006801,0.029456,0.032053,-0.016645
Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia:RISE547,0.119514,0.097491,0.045632,0.117896,-0.028005,0.038766,0.00517,-0.003692,-0.043359,-0.067974,-0.00406,0.001649,0.000743,-0.025598,0.035287,0.00411,-0.016168,0.002027,0.010056,0.006878,-0.003993,0.002226,0.007025,0.018316,-0.007424
Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia:RISE550,0.124067,0.097491,0.046763,0.107237,-0.02185,0.042391,0.00094,-0.010615,-0.050313,-0.073441,0.006008,-0.004646,-0.005054,-0.01734,0.034473,0.01896,0.002477,-0.005701,0.002514,0.009254,-0.000125,0.00643,0.020952,0.01699,0.002275
Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia:RISE552,0.106994,0.089367,0.035826,0.106914,-0.034468,0.052431,0.00564,-0.000462,-0.060335,-0.081824,-0.002761,0.001199,-0.001041,-0.025323,0.028501,0.019093,0.001565,-0.006334,-0.002891,0.013256,-0.000998,0.002226,0.010723,0.023256,-0.00479
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0231,0.122929,0.082258,0.044877,0.113697,-0.033852,0.046575,0,-0.006,-0.051949,-0.072165,0.007307,0.001049,0.003271,-0.022708,0.029994,0.018297,0.005998,-0.003547,-0.00176,0.011005,-0.003244,0,-0.001725,0.013616,-0.000838
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0357,0.126344,0.092413,0.038089,0.107883,-0.029852,0.039324,0.00564,-0.008077,-0.043768,-0.065605,-0.001137,-0.00015,-0.003568,-0.024772,0.035287,0.01896,0.00013,0.003167,-0.005279,0.004877,0.003619,0.006925,0.008504,0.012532,-0.005269
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0370,0.124067,0.08632,0.049403,0.111759,-0.027697,0.044623,0.00517,-0.000462,-0.066061,-0.066516,-0.002436,-0.00015,0.000297,-0.025735,0.03868,0.013789,0.000782,-0.000127,-0.005154,0.015758,0.001622,-0.0115,0.007025,0.021328,-0.003952
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0429,0.130897,0.088351,0.044123,0.126617,-0.030467,0.050758,0.005875,0.003,-0.059516,-0.075992,0.000974,-0.008992,0.002081,-0.018717,0.039359,0.020949,0.004955,-0.000887,0.003897,0.022636,-0.005615,0.000495,0.020089,0.018798,-0.013651
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0438,0.126344,0.085304,0.042615,0.122741,-0.032929,0.048806,-0.002115,0.002077,-0.068925,-0.080548,0.00065,0.002548,-0.00892,-0.029176,0.032437,0.011668,0.002347,-0.005068,-0.006285,0.018009,-0.00025,0.001731,0.021199,0.021328,-0.007185
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0439,0.127482,0.096475,0.037335,0.117896,-0.017542,0.038487,0.00329,-0.006,-0.052154,-0.057587,0.001949,-0.000599,-0.007582,-0.02257,0.038273,0.016441,-0.002217,-0.004941,-0.00352,0.018634,-0.001996,0.00643,0.015529,0.02663,-0.00934
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0443,0.124067,0.093429,0.039975,0.108206,-0.027082,0.045459,0.003995,-0.007154,-0.052563,-0.081642,0.001299,-3e-04,0.000595,-0.016515,0.044923,0.003978,-0.014212,-0.001394,-0.003771,0.013006,0.00262,0.000247,0.003944,0.018918,0.002036
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0444,0.125205,0.08632,0.045632,0.119188,-0.024928,0.047969,0.00564,-0.001154,-0.050108,-0.073259,0.002598,0.002847,0,-0.042663,0.029451,0.022938,-0.000522,0.003294,-0.010307,0.013131,-0.015098,0.004204,0.010846,0.016267,0.003952
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I7489,0.122929,0.090382,0.042238,0.110144,-0.03416,0.043507,0.004935,0.000692,-0.058085,-0.082735,0.005196,0.004046,-0.010406,-0.006881,0.041123,0.01485,-0.008345,-0.006588,-0.002388,0.006878,-0.010232,-0.001731,0.014173,0.018075,-0.006586
POL_Globular_Amphora:I2403,0.12862,0.158423,0.07203,-0.008721,0.090786,-0.023706,0.004935,0.006461,0.04929,0.066516,0.005684,0.013488,-0.018731,-0.016102,-0.013843,0.01127,0.021253,0.001774,0.00352,0.003252,0.00861,0.004204,-0.00949,-0.019521,-0.00012
POL_Globular_Amphora:I2433,0.126344,0.171624,0.05506,-0.019703,0.084939,-0.023427,-0.00329,0.006923,0.05379,0.075992,-0.006658,0.01169,-0.023042,-0.014313,-0.0057,0.000928,0.007693,0.007981,0.003017,0.001251,0.010107,0.01286,-0.012695,-0.022413,-0.006706
POL_Globular_Amphora:I2441,0.129758,0.178733,0.055437,-0.024871,0.084631,-0.022311,0.001645,0.006461,0.057471,0.082188,-0.001137,0.012589,-0.022596,-0.012661,-0.000814,0.005967,0.001695,0.004814,0.008673,0.000125,0.006613,0.003833,-0.008011,-0.019521,0.001557
POL_Globular_Amphora:N38,0.124067,0.164516,0.061471,-0.020026,0.085247,-0.012271,0.006345,0.003461,0.049904,0.07253,-0.001461,0.009442,-0.018731,-0.004404,-0.013436,-0.007558,0.008866,0.009375,0.004777,0.000875,0,0.008532,-0.009983,-0.02169,-0.000599
WHG:I1875,0.130897,0.120848,0.191577,0.194447,0.159107,0.048248,0.015746,0.040152,0.087332,0.007472,-0.016076,-0.015436,0.017839,-0.003303,0.047909,0.047069,0.007302,0.018497,-0.003268,0.057027,0.087471,0.00915,-0.048436,-0.143153,0.01449
WHG:Rochedane,0.118376,0.111708,0.178001,0.184111,0.150182,0.044623,0.010575,0.034383,0.090809,0.028064,-0.014615,-0.016186,0.013974,-0.002752,0.058767,0.069344,0.002738,0.014189,-0.015335,0.054151,0.101446,0.013231,-0.050778,-0.178579,0.019519
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.7820% / 0.02781968
48.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
45.4 POL_Globular_Amphora
6.0 Baltic_LVA_HG
I know that GAC has more HG where Barcin doesn't so removing that.
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 3.7771% / 0.03777099
49.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
33.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
10.4 WHG
7.2 Baltic_LVA_HG
Father:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick
Distance: 4.3659% / 0.04365906
47.6 Beaker_Iberia
41.4 CWC_Baltic
11.0 Minoan_Lasithi
Mother:
Distance: 3.2641% / 0.03264098
44.4 Beaker_Iberia
40.8 Minoan_Lasithi
14.8 CWC_Baltic
I guess it was because of trade with farmers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley
Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 1.9444% / 0.01944360
36.4 POL_Globular_Amphora
35.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
18.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
9.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia
Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 2.3369% / 0.02336880 | ADC: 0.25x
47.2 POL_Globular_Amphora
20.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
18.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia
13.8 Anatolia_Barcin_C
Doesn't matter who cucked who first, eventually they got wiped out by R1 steppe chads anyways.
https://i.imgur.com/da4zqD5.jpg
They were probably killed by a rival group or tribe. The GAC grave predates Steppe invasionsQuote:
Originally Posted by porpozontokonto
https://www.ancient-origins.net/news...burial-0011874
Why doesn't anyone ever talk about how Indo-Europeans were mostly EHG themselves, which is in turn the reason why Norwegians/Finns/Estonians come out as the most "Yamanya" related, because Yamnaya were similar to WHG's albeit some southern CHG stuffQuote:
Originally Posted by dududud
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean
Neolithic farmers being fanatical animists would've willingly appointed blue eyed Mesolithics, because their blue eyes were thought to be magical, kind of similar to Cortez in the new world but with blue eyes (the color of water, which was very sacred to Neolithic farmers as their settlements were exclusively located on rivers). So, It wasn't that Mesolithics conquered them in any way (lol, lets not even get into the demographics) it was just a social status thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley
Even the tree branches show WHG and EEF closely related, or at least splitting very recently. Where do you think WHG's came from when they were in Spain and the Balkans waiting for the ice to melt? They came from Anatolia but had been in Europe for long enough that they became distinct seperate group, but nothing insanely long (10 or 20 thousand years).Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
It's interesting that you get both GAC and Barcin. If GAC is there I don't get any Barcin. I think it is because Bell Beakers that came to UK/Ireland got their farmer component from GAC. Well I think that's already well known.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daco Celtic
So the ladies liked those baby blues. :) It is an interesting question though and as Daco said I'm sure demographics played their part as well. Still no other ydna but I so what happened to the farmer males?Quote:
Originally Posted by War Chief
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley
Target: Grace_scaledCode:Anatolia_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
Corded_Ware_Baltic_early,0.1282407,0.0927517,0.0532997,0.113912,-0.0097453,0.0495493,0.004935,0.005923,-0.0384503,-0.0592267,-0.0081733,0.0007493,0.0020813,-0.0161937,0.0326183,0.0147173,-0.0001303,-0.0016047,-0.0010053,0.0072117,-0.0081523,0.0009067,0.0088327,0.0211273,-0.0004393
POL_Globular_Amphora,0.1271973,0.168324,0.0609995,-0.0183302,0.0864008,-0.0204288,0.0024088,0.0058265,0.0526138,0.0743065,-0.000893,0.0118022,-0.020775,-0.01187,-0.0084482,0.0026518,0.0098768,0.005986,0.0049968,0.0013758,0.0063325,0.0073572,-0.0100448,-0.0207862,-0.001467
UKR_Globular_Amphora,0.1229287,0.1689163,0.0605907,-0.0204567,0.0829897,-0.014967,-0.00188,0.003538,0.052017,0.0724693,-0.0002707,0.0051953,-0.0175917,-0.001468,-0.0099073,-0.0019007,0.0051283,0.0057433,0.0051537,-0.0046273,0.0087343,0.0048227,-0.0170493,-0.0229753,0.003233
Distance: 3.1516% / 0.03151643
54.6 Corded_Ware_Baltic_early
28.6 POL_Globular_Amphora
16.8 UKR_Globular_Amphora
Quote:
Originally Posted by dududud
As I've been saying for ages but got laughed at here. Sardinians are just the same as modern Anatolians/Levant, only I thought it was genetic drift when it's actually something else that Davidski describes here:Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
https://i.imgur.com/i6XRc9s.png
Quote:
Originally Posted by dududud
I'd like to know as well. It definitley wasn't war with the scantly populated Mesolithics. The only threat to farmers was other farmers themselves, as evidenced by the herxheim mass genocide LBK culture site:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herxhe...ological_site)Quote:
The human remains were primarily shattered and dispersed within the pits, rarely intact or in anatomical position. Using a quantification process known as "minimum number of individuals" (MNI), researchers concluded that the site contained at least 500 individual humans ranging from newborns to the elderly.[1] However, "since the area excavated corresponds to barely half the enclosure, we can assume that in fact more than 1000 individuals were involved".[1] The deposition of the human remains occurred only within the final 50 years of occupation at the site.
A 2009[1] study confirmed many findings from the 2006 study, but added new information. In just one pit deposit, this study found 1906 bones and bone fragments from at least 10 individuals ranging from newborns to adults. At least 359 individual skeletal elements were identified. This in-depth study revealed many more cut, impact, and bite marks made upon the skulls and post-cranial skeletal elements.[1] It was apparent that parts of the humans' bodies were singled out for their marrow content, suggesting cannibalization (see Hypotheses).
Of particular note from both studies[1][2] was the peculiar treatment of the humans' skulls. Many skulls were treated in a similar manner: skulls were struck on "the sagittal line, splitting faces, mandibles, and skull caps into symmetrical halves".[2] A few skulls were clearly skinned prior to being struck, again, all in the same manner: "horizontal cuts above the orbits, vertical cuts along the sagittal suture, and oblique cuts in the parietals".[2]
The vault of the skull was preserved and shaped into what is referred to as a calotte (calvarium). During this process the brain, which is a source of dietary fat, may have been extracted. Additionally, a later study revealed that the tongues of humans were removed.
According to British anthropologists there were only a few thousand Hunter gatherers in Stone Age Britain. The ratio of women to men was probably high also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley
I believe the scientists from a Uni, in that case we all plot more eastern than expected also due to Eastern Steppe as well then?Quote:
Originally Posted by War Chief
For me the distance is not so good
Target: Andrei_scaled
Distance: 4.3452% / 0.04345160 | ADC: 0.25x
35.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
25.4 POL_Globular_Amphora
22.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
17.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia
Target: Andrei_scaled
Distance: 3.9100% / 0.03910049
53.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
24.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia
12.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.2 Baltic_LVA_HG
Seems like I don’t have any BHG.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley
Target: Imperator_Biff_scaled
Distance: 3.4234% / 0.03423405 | ADC: 0.25x
49.8 POL_Globular_Amphora
34.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
16.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia
Target: Imperator_Biff_scaled
Distance: 3.3928% / 0.03392794
49.8 POL_Globular_Amphora
40.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
8.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia
1.0 Baltic_LVA_HG
Without GAC
Target: Imperator_Biff_scaled
Distance: 4.8138% / 0.04813763
43.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
36.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
17.4 Baltic_LVA_HG
2.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia
WHG instead of Latvian HG
Target: Imperator_Biff_scaled
Distance: 4.6987% / 0.04698724
43.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
35.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
13.8 WHG
8.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia
And with GAC as a standin I favour WHG over Baltic hunter gatherers.
Target: Imperator_Biff_scaled
Distance: 3.3899% / 0.03389859
49.4 POL_Globular_Amphora
40.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
8.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia
1.0 WHG
[QUOTE=Dick;6462163]According to British anthropologists there were only a few thousand Hunter gatherers in Stone Age Britain. The ratio of women to men was probably high also.[quote]
Only explanation I see is blue eyed mesolithics were given top aristocrat positions in farmer society, probably spiritual holy men like the druids. They were probably regarded as mythical creatures and got to breed with whoever because they had high social status
Most neolithic graves that were found were due to rival groups or tribal conflicts.Quote:
Originally Posted by War Chief
https://www.ancient-origins.net/news...burial-0011874
Even Oetzi was apparently murdered by other "Farmers", found shot in the back with arrows.
Makes me wonder.... Could Basque be a remnant of Neolithic Farmer languages? Or maybe Kartvelian?
Quote:
Originally Posted by War Chief
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_BasquesQuote:
Some researchers have propounded the similarities between the Basque language and the Caucasian languages,
What if one of the Neolithic farmer groups went N-E and got lodged in the Caucasus & the other survived the I-E storm in the Pyrenes mountains? Seems pretty logicalQuote:
Originally Posted by Dick
Quote:
Originally Posted by War Chief
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_BasquesQuote:
The haplogroup R1b[17] can be found most frequently in the Basque Country (91%), Wales (89%) and Ireland (81%).
By the way, Stone Hendge was definitely built by Neolithic Farmers, also so were these in France. Neolithic farmers were very spiritual
Yeah but then r1b is also the oldest PIE (Khvalsynk, yamnaya) haplogroup, which makes you think in Basques it was founder effect :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick
All the Basque surnames who got tested:
https://www.familytreedna.com/groups.../about/results
Aside from the overwhelming r1b, There's a small decent amount of G2