NEW paper on old Magyars!

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

What is wrong with you exactly? How far will you go to twist known facts also written here, that Magyars come from Urals and speak Ugric language?
You claim they are originally Turks with Ugric substratum, it's exact opposite.

No serious paper nor researcher claim they started as Turks. It's a fantasy.
You didn't answer my post because you have no answer to offer. You don't need to offer Africa argument, it's silly. It's known where Hungarians started, and it is in Urals. Not Altai, sorry.

You are fanatical and dogmatic, and also funny. Nothing wrong to enjoy Turkic culture and heritage, but claiming you are Turkic and Hungarians started as Turkic...no comment.
It's black Egyptians level.

Enjoy your 1% Turkic DNA dear.

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You posted it yourself; you have over 6% Turkic, and you see them as the old Hunnic genes.

Also I didn't answer what post? What did you ask to me, specifically, that needed refutation? For years, you ignore actual questions levied at you and hide behind the account of your wife to troll at times. You're probably going to her her banned at this rate.

You said in the same sentence above "nothing wrong to enjoy Turkic culture and heritage", but then say "claiming you are Turkic... no comment." How can you both claim you have heritage that transcends culture, yet also say you can't claim that you do? It's an oxymoron.

Also, where did you get the 1% from?

Even if it was just 1%, does that not even mean that's there, too? Considering we are talking about over 1000 years ago, that's still a marker. However, I have more than 1% (as do you and most other Hungarians here, even half-Hungarians), but you won't say where you are getting that number.

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Originally Posted by Kaspias

Also Xiongnu

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

Now we just need the Y-DNA of Bulgars, Cumans, and Pechenegs to complete the puzzle.

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I match three of the Hungarian conqueror-era graves and one of the Hun-era graves form the fifth century. The Karos III grave is my closest match from them all.

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

this one is apparently proto-Ugric according to Russian scholars:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A...83%D1%80%D0%B0

there is no info in English about it. or it has a different name?

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No, this is it, the Cherkaskul-Mezhovka (черкаскульско-межовской культуры). The disintegration period between the two Urgic groups started here in the Cherkaskul horizont and 1500-1000 BC was the turning-point in this one thousand years process.

1800-1300 BC - Cherkaskul period: various level of dialectic differences with mostly clear mutual understanding (Serbo-Croatian situation)
1300-700BC - Mezhovka period: two new language with mostly or sometimes understandable speech (Czech-Slovak situation)
700BC-500AD - Sargat period: two different language withe some serious similarity (Anglo-German situation)

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Originally Posted by blogen

A proof through genetics:
https://media.springernature.com/ful..._Fig2_HTML.png

Because the Baskhirs are partially Magyar origin folks.



Common mistake of the Byzantians some unknown political reason. Like the western Onugor-mistake (caused the Hungarian name).



Without any evidence. The contenporary scholars spoke about shamanism in the grove and fire cult.



So, the Turks had horse and the Magyars were Turks because of this. Yeah. Sorry, but our nomadic culture was ancient West Siberian Ugric origin with Iranian cultural elements in the material culture and not Turkic type. We have now a contious archeological connection between the late ancient/early medieval Western Siberia/Southern Ural region and the conqueror culture. This is the great revolution in the Hungarian prehistory research, we find our factual route between Levedia and Hungary and the main evidence of this is the not Turkic, but Ugric cultural heritage of some archeological culture with the genetic evidences now!

Basically the whole Turkic-imagination is ended forever in Hungary. God by our Turkic friends, welcome our Iranian brothers!

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Can’t decide if you are joking or not. Your both historical and genetical relations with Iranics basically ground to Turkics but you prefer denying the Turkic contribution, however. Sweet dreams with your Iranic brotherhood, dear.

Universe is barely 1 percent Mongoloid, according to some he is still Turkic and closer to Bashkirs than to Austrians.

I imagine Turul Köröm like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHGaCiYCznw

:rotfl::rotfl:

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Originally Posted by Blondie

I imagine Turul Köröm like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHGaCiYCznw

:rotfl::rotfl:

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What a slayer.

https://i.imgur.com/oqAOMBU.png

Cringe.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

Cringe.

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Be nice. Blondie tries her best.

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Originally Posted by Turul Karom

Be nice. Blondie tries her best.

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You are nutty. I like you otherwise, you are very polite. But now I just think you aren't....normal.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

You are nutty. I like you otherwise, you are very polite. But now I just think you aren't....normal.

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Do you realize where you are? You both must like it here enough if you have 31k posts to show for it.

Regardless, I don't really have a reason to "flip out" like some of the others here do for whatever reason. I don't consider TA a "battleground." Most of the people I've met here have been great in their activism and academic life, and I've been more than happy to assist them. Not simply other Hungarians, but many Turkish posters here as well who I have spoken with face-to-face.

You're both taking things too seriously or pin too much value on getting a thumbs up or not. You know, to an extent, I do want my approval to have value and don't spam them everywhere, yes? Or would I need to up-vote everyone who is on my friend list?

Regardless, Stears' own identity is his to sort out.

So nice to see 2 new U4d2 samples.