G25 European Meta-Ethnic Calculator

Target: Milenko_scaled
Distance: 2.0661% / 0.02066112 | ADC: 0.5x RC
51.2 Slavic
31.0 Roman
17.8 Celtic

Target: Milenko_scaled
Distance: 2.0195% / 0.02019456 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.4 Slavic
40.6 Roman
6.0 Celtic

Distance to: Milenko_scaled
0.05757183 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.05841800 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.05958367 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.06314450 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.06392919 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.06471300 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.06638976 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.06816514 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.06987433 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.07026102 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.07037949 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.07150198 Slavic:Sorb
0.07394372 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.07586432 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.07849891 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.07969111 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.08630432 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.08631943 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.10724711 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.9608% / 0.01960811 | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.0 Germanic
27.8 Slavic
16.6 Celtic
16.6 Paleo-Balkan

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.9187% / 0.01918679 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.0 Germanic
25.0 Slavic
18.2 Paleo-Balkan
17.8 Celtic

With England Samples added by Grace.


Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.8380% / 0.01838015 | ADC: 0.25x RC
30.0 Slavic
21.8 England_EMBA
19.4 Celtic
19.2 Paleo-Balkan
9.6 Germanic

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.9608% / 0.01960811 | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.0 Germanic
27.8 Slavic
16.6 Celtic
16.6 Paleo-Balkan

Distance: 1.8262% / 0.01826209
Target: scaled | ADC: 0.5x
47.9 Roman
27.4 Slavic
24.7 Paleo-Balkan
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My father

Distance: 2.3150% / 0.02315046
Target: Father_scaled | ADC: 0.5x
51.8 Paleo-Balkan
35.4 Slavic
12.8 Roman

Quote:

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Originally Posted by oszkar07

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.9608% / 0.01960811 | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.0 Germanic
27.8 Slavic
16.6 Celtic
16.6 Paleo-Balkan

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.9187% / 0.01918679 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.0 Germanic
25.0 Slavic
18.2 Paleo-Balkan
17.8 Celtic

With England Samples added by Grace.


Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.8380% / 0.01838015 | ADC: 0.25x RC
30.0 Slavic
21.8 England_EMBA
19.4 Celtic
19.2 Paleo-Balkan
9.6 Germanic

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.9608% / 0.01960811 | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.0 Germanic
27.8 Slavic
16.6 Celtic
16.6 Paleo-Balkan

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Seems reasonably accurate for you - I'm pleased it could give a broad representation of your Hungarian ancestry.

Some people might want to try this calculator while disabling recalculating. It has produced some more sound results for some.

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 3.7868% / 0.03786841
95.0 Roman
5.0 Germanic

Code:

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Distance to:        Juan_scaled
0.04351907        Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.04762757        Roman:DEU_Roman
0.04869405        Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.05423292        Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.05609784        Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.05880485        Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.05963867        Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.06309999        Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.07430844        Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.07465479        Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.07635240        Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.08281672        Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.09005935        Germanic:DEU_MA
0.10306458        Germanic:DNK_BA
0.10312515        Germanic:SWE_IA
0.10542192        Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.10784619        Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.11827189        Slavic:Sorb
0.12199332        Slavic:Ukrainian

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Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.6552% / 0.02655158 | ADC: 0.25x RC
78.0 Germanic
22.0 Roman

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.6552% / 0.02655158 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.8 Germanic:DEU_MA
32.2 Germanic:SWE_IA
11.4 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
10.6 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley

It's erroneous to say those Celtic components represent British & Irish admixture though as they don't. You would need Bronze Age British samples to represent actual British & Irish.

Code:

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England_CA_EBA,0.124636,0.125926,0.061576,0.062106,0.031134,0.019724,0.004296,0.004654,-0.000216,-0.004323,-0.004872,0.005928,-0.011678,-0.015398,0.025123,0.010342,-0.003593,0.000718,0.002905,0.006107,0.005359,0.002899,-0.000383,0.003294,-0.001058
England_EMBA,0.125205,0.129988,0.060716,0.06137,0.029236,0.020359,0.012691,0.002077,0.002659,-0.005103,-0.002273,0.003447,-0.010406,-0.01445,0.029587,-0.005834,-0.020601,0.008868,0.003017,0.001,0.002371,-0.001484,-0.008134,0.008435,0.003832
England_IA,0.13175,0.130749,0.060151,0.048046,0.035083,0.02015,0.004818,0.003692,0.004244,0.004191,-0.004425,0.005732,-0.010518,-0.018476,0.018017,0.010044,0.001206,-6.3e-05,0.003331,0.003908,0.003899,0.000247,-0.001202,0.011417,0.000449
England_LBA,0.119514,0.116786,0.056945,0.05814,0.031698,0.018686,0.00235,-0.003461,0.004909,-0.00656,-0.006496,0.003447,-0.025718,-0.004817,0.019544,0.02148,0.00352,-0.000253,-0.000126,0.006128,0.005989,-0.00272,-0.001602,0.012291,-0.004311
England_MBA,0.127013,0.129092,0.063068,0.059755,0.034178,0.019916,0.001493,0.004927,0.004596,-0.001394,-0.004738,0.003967,-0.01115,-0.015657,0.024677,0.009157,-0.005952,0.00307,0.000983,0.003987,0.004698,0.004713,-0.000638,0.005834,-0.001205
England_Roman,0.127482,0.136806,0.059585,0.049465,0.03715,0.017052,0.003659,0.005241,0.003009,0.00315,-0.005382,0.007108,-0.014208,-0.01276,0.021967,0.001762,-0.008382,0.001122,0.003951,0.003805,0.005259,0.001661,-0.003504,0.007195,-0.000239
England_Saxon,0.132462,0.13405,0.063875,0.056929,0.041162,0.020568,0.006257,0.006894,0.003988,-0.002415,-0.004933,0.004552,-0.009291,-0.012455,0.024243,0.011237,-0.00308,0.001504,0.005201,0.006659,0.005334,0.002473,-0.001648,0.016644,-0.000868

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This is what I get using 0.5 with these samples added.

Target: Grace
Distance: 0.9439% / 0.00943869 | ADC: 0.5x RC
63.0 England_Roman
21.8 England_Saxon
15.2 Germanic

I think Creoda might be better at suggesting some samples but Continental Celtic is definitely not representing British & Irish ancestry. It represents Continental Celtic ancestry.

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With those ancient British samples added:

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.4127% / 0.02412742 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.8 England_EMBA
36.4 Germanic
22.8 Roman

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.4127% / 0.02412742 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.8 England_EMBA
22.0 Germanic:SWE_IA
17.6 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
14.4 Germanic:DEU_MA
5.2 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA

Quote:

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Originally Posted by TeutonicBoyars

I think you might have copied the code wrong, but regardless, this still looks pretty good and more along the lines of what I got with other Anglos! Obviously the 21,8 + 13% Slavic accounts for your Ukrainian heritage while the Celtic samples would make up your remaining British and Irish (and French) admixture. Thanks for posting!

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Thanks, I think it may look like that because I posted unaggregated results :) Here are my aggregated results

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.4545% / 0.02454457 | ADC: 0.5x RC
57.0 Celtic
34.8 Slavic
8.2 Germanic

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.4100% / 0.02410030 | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.2 Celtic
34.4 Slavic
10.8 Germanic
5.6 Roman

Distance: 2.5230% / 0.02523003
Target: Kaspias_scaled
41.9 Roman
24.1 Turkic
22.7 Slavic
11.3 Celtic


Distance: 2.0910% / 0.02090995
Target: Kaspias_dad
39.3 Turkic
35.5 Roman
25.2 Celtic

Here’s my results with the added British samples:
Distance: 2.4932% / 0.02493160
Target: IceQueen_scaled | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.7 England_EMBA
37.8 England_Roman
10.6 Germanic
8.9 Roman

Target: Andrei_scaled
Distance: 2.4310% / 0.02431028 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.0 Slavic
28.8 Paleo-Balkan
24.2 Roman

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley

It's erroneous to say those Celtic components represent British & Irish admixture though as they don't. You would need Bronze Age British samples to represent actual British & Irish.

Code:

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England_CA_EBA,0.124636,0.125926,0.061576,0.062106,0.031134,0.019724,0.004296,0.004654,-0.000216,-0.004323,-0.004872,0.005928,-0.011678,-0.015398,0.025123,0.010342,-0.003593,0.000718,0.002905,0.006107,0.005359,0.002899,-0.000383,0.003294,-0.001058
England_EMBA,0.125205,0.129988,0.060716,0.06137,0.029236,0.020359,0.012691,0.002077,0.002659,-0.005103,-0.002273,0.003447,-0.010406,-0.01445,0.029587,-0.005834,-0.020601,0.008868,0.003017,0.001,0.002371,-0.001484,-0.008134,0.008435,0.003832
England_IA,0.13175,0.130749,0.060151,0.048046,0.035083,0.02015,0.004818,0.003692,0.004244,0.004191,-0.004425,0.005732,-0.010518,-0.018476,0.018017,0.010044,0.001206,-6.3e-05,0.003331,0.003908,0.003899,0.000247,-0.001202,0.011417,0.000449
England_LBA,0.119514,0.116786,0.056945,0.05814,0.031698,0.018686,0.00235,-0.003461,0.004909,-0.00656,-0.006496,0.003447,-0.025718,-0.004817,0.019544,0.02148,0.00352,-0.000253,-0.000126,0.006128,0.005989,-0.00272,-0.001602,0.012291,-0.004311
England_MBA,0.127013,0.129092,0.063068,0.059755,0.034178,0.019916,0.001493,0.004927,0.004596,-0.001394,-0.004738,0.003967,-0.01115,-0.015657,0.024677,0.009157,-0.005952,0.00307,0.000983,0.003987,0.004698,0.004713,-0.000638,0.005834,-0.001205
England_Roman,0.127482,0.136806,0.059585,0.049465,0.03715,0.017052,0.003659,0.005241,0.003009,0.00315,-0.005382,0.007108,-0.014208,-0.01276,0.021967,0.001762,-0.008382,0.001122,0.003951,0.003805,0.005259,0.001661,-0.003504,0.007195,-0.000239
England_Saxon,0.132462,0.13405,0.063875,0.056929,0.041162,0.020568,0.006257,0.006894,0.003988,-0.002415,-0.004933,0.004552,-0.009291,-0.012455,0.024243,0.011237,-0.00308,0.001504,0.005201,0.006659,0.005334,0.002473,-0.001648,0.016644,-0.000868

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This is what I get using 0.5 with these samples added.

Target: Grace
Distance: 0.9439% / 0.00943869 | ADC: 0.5x RC
63.0 England_Roman
21.8 England_Saxon
15.2 Germanic

I think Creoda might be better at suggesting some samples but Continental Celtic is definitely not representing British & Irish ancestry. It represents Continental Celtic ancestry.

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At this point we are creating a frankenstein calculator. The whole concept of this calculator is flawed since it used at least one bronze age sample as only Iron Age and medieval age samples should be used to infer modern ethnicity. England Iron age is sufficient for British Celtic and English Anglo-Saxon I think has some samples that were mixed with British celts like modern British people so some individual samples would be ideal instead but I'm not sure.

At the end of the day not to highjack the thread but Davidski modeled the British isles pretty well here. A newer more vetted version might be able to be made with new viking samples. Even with less than ideal samples it seems more or less correct. This is how it is done you take Iron age and medeival age samples or you focus on one such period like here you don't just go throwing in Denmark Bronze Age willy nilly style etc... :

My results :

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 2.0805% / 0.02080509
64.0 England_Saxon
34.0 England_Roman
2.0 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna

Code:

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England_Roman:3DT16,0.126344,0.14319,0.065619,0.057171,0.038469,0.021196,0.00141,-0.001154,0.008385,0.009659,0.003248,0.002997,-0.012785,-0.009358,0.014115,0.001061,-0.007953,0.003041,0.002011,-0.006753,0.005865,0.005935,-0.001479,0.007953,-0.000479
England_Roman:6DT18,0.125205,0.142174,0.058454,0.050388,0.046162,0.021196,0.0047,0.008538,-0.000818,0.005103,0.000487,0.012589,-0.017393,-0.020368,0.023887,0.006762,-0.005346,-0.003041,0.012444,0.001,0.007986,0.000866,-0.00419,0.013857,-0.003353
England_Roman:6DT21,0.126344,0.12491,0.061471,0.047804,0.027697,0.013945,0.005405,0.009923,-0.00225,-0.000911,-0.019487,0.012589,-0.011447,-0.007707,0.019951,0.006099,-0.008345,-0.003927,0.002765,0.003752,0.002246,0.001237,0.003697,0.002289,-0.001317
England_Roman:6DT22,0.125205,0.140143,0.061094,0.045866,0.038776,0.014223,0.004935,0.005077,0.003068,0.000729,-0.004872,0.001349,-0.01115,-0.016928,0.016015,0.000796,0.000652,0.003927,0.006159,0,0.003993,0.005441,-0.011462,-0.00012,-0.000359
England_Roman:6DT23,0.126344,0.141159,0.060339,0.046512,0.036622,0.009482,0.005405,0.008077,0.00225,0.001458,-0.008607,0.006744,-0.016055,-0.007019,0.030944,-0.003845,-0.018906,0.004181,-0.003268,0.012506,0.004492,-0.004081,-0.010476,0.008917,-0.001916
England_Roman:6DT3,0.132035,0.13405,0.058077,0.050711,0.033237,0.029005,0.008225,0.003461,0.001023,-0.004556,-0.005034,0.005245,-0.017096,-0.005918,0.028908,-0.011403,-0.023469,0.001774,0.003142,0.006378,0.010731,0.000124,-0.002588,0.011086,0.002874
England_Saxon:I0157,0.129758,0.140143,0.065996,0.059109,0.037853,0.019801,0.00752,0.007615,0.006749,-0.00656,-0.006496,0.008992,-0.009217,-0.01156,0.028908,0.007955,-0.006258,0.000253,0.008045,0.009755,0.003619,-0.003215,-0.005176,0.025666,-0.002874
England_Saxon:I0159,0.130897,0.135065,0.062979,0.053618,0.038161,0.023148,0.00329,0.006461,0.001023,-0.000729,-0.001299,0.006894,-0.014569,-0.010322,0.028366,0.010342,-0.007432,0.000507,0.004525,0.008254,0.001373,0.007296,-0.005916,0.012773,0.003592
England_Saxon:I0161,0.12862,0.13405,0.061848,0.048127,0.04647,0.020638,0.004465,0.005077,0.006749,0.004738,-0.002436,0.004946,-0.006987,-0.012799,0.024158,0.006895,0.004563,0.0019,0.003645,0.005503,0.002246,-0.00272,0.006779,0.016267,0.003233
England_Saxon:I0769,0.129758,0.132019,0.070899,0.059432,0.044624,0.025937,0.00282,0.005538,0,-0.006743,-0.006171,0.004796,-0.012785,-0.012386,0.028366,0.0179,0.00691,-0.003674,0.006159,0.008004,0.008235,0.005193,0.00037,0.019521,0.002036
England_Saxon:I0773,0.141141,0.126941,0.063356,0.071383,0.044008,0.024263,0.00799,0.011307,0.00409,-0.00656,-0.005359,0.005395,-0.01219,-0.013074,0.021172,0.011668,-0.001434,0.000887,0.008673,0.008629,0.010981,0.003957,-0.003081,0.015544,-0.007424
England_Saxon:I0774,0.134311,0.13405,0.054305,0.051034,0.038161,0.014223,0.013161,0.007615,0.001227,0.003462,-0.004709,0.002548,-0.00446,-0.008257,0.018051,0.009016,-0.01004,0.005448,0.005908,0,0.002246,0.000371,0.000863,0.016267,-0.00467
England_Saxon:I0777,0.135449,0.136081,0.063356,0.050388,0.040315,0.019522,0.006345,0.009461,0.01084,0.000182,-0.005196,0.001349,-0.003271,-0.020781,0.017101,0.020551,0.00326,0.002154,0.004777,0.008129,0.003993,0.00643,-0.00949,0.011929,-0.002754
England_Saxon:NO3423,0.129758,0.13405,0.068259,0.062339,0.0397,0.017012,0.004465,0.002077,0.001227,-0.007107,-0.007795,0.001499,-0.010852,-0.010459,0.027823,0.005569,-0.014212,0.004561,-0.000126,0.005002,0.009982,0.002473,0.002465,0.015183,0.001916
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001,0.133173,0.125926,0.076933,0.061047,0.041238,0.021196,0.002585,0.006461,0.000205,-0.012028,-0.000974,0.004046,-0.000297,-0.006331,0.018051,0.013259,0.009648,0.001647,-0.000754,0.00075,0.002371,0.000371,0.005176,0.012893,0.001437
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84005,0.127482,0.120848,0.072784,0.070414,0.042777,0.031794,0.00611,0.014307,0.009817,-0.022051,-0.001461,-0.001349,0.00892,0.012386,0.012893,-0.007558,-0.01708,0.002027,0.00176,0.001626,0.001497,0.00507,0.006902,-0.000241,0.00467
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97002,0.129758,0.140143,0.05242,0.04845,0.045855,0.014781,0.00141,0.002077,-0.006954,-0.014943,-0.013641,0.001349,-0.012933,-0.001514,0.001629,0.009016,0.000782,0.001267,0.000377,-0.006878,-0.00262,-0.006306,-0.002218,0.010001,0.000838
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt035,0.130897,0.136081,0.07203,0.047158,0.036622,0.019801,0.00188,0.004154,0.009613,-0.000547,-0.007795,0.001499,-0.011893,-0.01101,0.022937,0.002387,-0.001695,0.004561,-0.004651,0,0.006364,0.002473,0.001972,0.007109,0.002036
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036,0.132035,0.133034,0.065996,0.056202,0.0437,0.02008,0.004935,0.011999,0.006954,-0.012757,-0.003248,-0.002248,0.00223,-0.001789,0.002172,0.001591,-0.001956,0.001774,0.006159,0.005878,-0.007237,0.005935,0.003574,0.002048,0.003233
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm021,0.121791,0.118817,0.081081,0.067184,0.045239,0.023427,0.00752,0.012692,-0.005113,-0.014214,0.000487,0.002398,0.007433,0.001239,0.015608,0.00305,-0.011474,0.001267,-0.002765,0.003502,0.01123,0.004822,0.00037,0.008796,-0.002275
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006,0.133173,0.094444,0.085229,0.092701,0.038776,0.032909,0.017861,0.015922,0.004909,-0.038087,-0.001137,-0.012439,0.018137,0.016652,-0.002714,0.005701,0.001173,0.003167,0.005656,0.006378,0.007112,-0.004575,0.011216,-0.001084,0.001437
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_kls001,0.125205,0.120848,0.075047,0.058786,0.040623,0.026774,0.00658,0.019153,0.00859,0.000911,-0.007145,-0.000899,-0.016501,-0.007432,0.022258,0.0118,-0.003651,-0.011275,0.013827,0.010255,0.012478,0.021268,-0.017131,0.012532,0.008502
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_nuf002,0.122929,0.138112,0.061848,0.047158,0.044316,0.012829,0.0094,-0.002538,0.007976,-0.008565,0.007632,0.016785,-0.006095,0.006331,0.024701,-0.004773,-0.022035,0.014062,0.008045,0.008129,0.006114,0.006183,-0.009367,0.002771,-0.010658
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg020,0.126344,0.116786,0.086361,0.0969,0.02462,0.021753,0.00423,0.013153,0.001023,-0.030798,0.007795,0.002698,0.009217,0.006331,-0.000271,0.023999,0.001825,-0.009375,0.004777,0.006628,0.000749,-0.003215,0.012078,0.002169,-0.007784
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg021,0.125205,0.122879,0.065242,0.053295,0.041854,0.027889,0.00564,0.003461,0.005113,-0.002551,-0.007145,0.005695,-0.007582,-0.009771,0.012758,-0.008884,-0.017993,0.001394,0.007039,0.006253,-0.001996,0.005812,-0.002218,0.004097,0.001796
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026,0.125205,0.128972,0.077687,0.070737,0.04647,0.024542,0.00987,0.009461,-0.000818,-0.010752,0.003897,0.004346,-0.002676,0.005092,0.004072,0.010872,0.001825,0.005068,0.004777,0.004627,0.006738,0.000618,-0.000986,0.010483,0.000599
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm035,0.117238,0.126941,0.079195,0.070091,0.039084,0.032072,0.00047,0.015692,0.011044,-0.021504,-0.003248,-0.001499,0.013825,0.007432,0.016151,0.016043,0.01017,0.005448,0.003142,0.009505,0.005615,0.007419,0.002588,0.016026,-0.002515
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160,0.125205,0.121864,0.076933,0.068153,0.041238,0.02761,0.008225,0.016615,-0.000818,-0.017312,0.003897,-0.004646,0.002973,0.009634,0.0076,0.006629,0.012256,-0.00038,0.000503,-0.004377,0.007861,0.000371,0.003697,0.010845,0.003113

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My original from this thread :

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 2.4894% / 0.02489366
56.0 Germanic
44.0 Celtic

I get a closer distance with the British isles calculator from Davidski !


Anyway, you want a multi-ethnic one ? It has already been done but it is bit more multi-culti. Is it perfect ? Nothing made by man is :

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...val-calculator

The original one here :

http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Nicola-Iron-Age.htm

With the ancient British samples....

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.1371% / 0.02137059 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.2 England_IA
29.0 Slavic
15.0 Celtic
12.8 Roman

Non-aggregated

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.1371% / 0.02137059 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.2 England_IA
21.4 Slavic:Ukrainian
9.4 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
7.8 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
7.6 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
5.6 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
5.0 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial


W/O recalculating

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.1612% / 0.02161166 | ADC: 0.25x
43.0 England_IA
28.2 Slavic
19.6 Celtic
9.2 Roman

Looks quite accurate :) and the distance is lower than before :D

with ancient brit samples:

Quote:

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Target: drb_scaled
Distance: 1.6090% / 0.01609045 | ADC: 0.5x RC
57.4 England_Saxon
42.6 Celtic

Target: drb_scaled
Distance: 1.5347% / 0.01534742 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.6 England_Saxon
27.2 Celtic
9.0 Roman
6.2 Slavic

Target: drb_scaled
Distance: 1.5328% / 0.01532760
56.0 England_Saxon
24.0 Celtic
11.6 Roman
7.6 Slavic
0.8 England_LBA

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i would lump slavic in with germanic, roman with celtic etc.

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.8888% / 0.02888829
54.0 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
18.0 Roman:DEU_Roman
14.4 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
11.6 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
2.0 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 3.1435% / 0.03143512
52.4 Roman:DEU_Roman
18.4 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
9.0 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
8.8 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
8.0 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
3.4 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d

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Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 1.8932% / 0.01893158
64.0 Father_scaled
16.6 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
8.8 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
7.8 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
2.8 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial


Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.1156% / 0.02115572
70.8 Gallop_scaled
24.2 Roman:DEU_Roman
3.6 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
1.4 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 7.1561% / 0.07156074
79.6 England_Roman:6DT22
20.4 England_Roman:6DT23

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 7.4052% / 0.07405239
90.6 England_Roman:6DT22
9.4 England_Roman:6DT23


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Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.2255% / 0.02225511
91.2 Father_scaled
8.8 England_Roman:6DT3

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.3188% / 0.02318771
94.2 Gallop_scaled
5.8 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97002

Target: alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
Distance: 2.1301% / 0.02130121 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.8 Slavic
38.2 Roman
14.6 Paleo-Balkan
6.4 Celtic

Target: Dušan_scaled_K13&K15_sim
Distance: 0.8065% / 0.00806511
62.8 Slavic
34.6 Roman
2.6 Paleo-Balkan


Target: Dušan_scaled_K13&K15_sim
Distance: 0.8065% / 0.00806511
62.8 Slavic:Ukrainian
20.2 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
9.6 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
4.8 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
2.6 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA

nice thread

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02427956 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.03203976 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.04122120 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.04814270 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.05124833 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.05458396 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.05504571 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.06120997 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.06199968 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.06705675 Slavic:Sorb
0.06912502 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.07385029 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.08293091 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.08309748 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.09370006 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.09651209 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.10026830 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.11067900 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.15893345 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.2152% / 0.02215236
48.0 Germanic:DEU_MA
28.2 Germanic:SWE_IA
13.6 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
6.2 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
4.0 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA

Quote:

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Originally Posted by drb234

with ancient brit samples:


i would lump slavic in with germanic, roman with celtic etc.

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Why?

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02505466 England_Saxon:I0774
0.02521146 England_Saxon:I0159
0.02677443 England_Saxon:I0161
0.02774438 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt035
0.02833758 England_Saxon:I0157
0.02836776 England_Saxon:NO3423
0.02997703 England_Roman:6DT3
0.03028696 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg021
0.03087437 England_Roman:6DT18
0.03199269 England_Roman:3DT16
0.03249859 England_Roman:6DT21
0.03270508 England_Roman:6DT23
0.03615060 England_Roman:6DT22
0.03770922 England_Saxon:I0773
0.03827150 England_Saxon:I0777
0.03855419 England_Saxon:I0769
0.03911270 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036
0.04252669 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001
0.04505565 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_nuf002
0.04570763 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97002
0.04930677 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026
0.05021313 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_kls001
0.05119074 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm021
0.05615310 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84005
0.05860202 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.5860% / 0.01585975
27.2 England_Roman:6DT3
22.2 England_Saxon:I0161
15.2 England_Saxon:I0774
10.4 England_Saxon:I0157
8.2 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036
7.0 England_Roman:6DT21
5.0 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg021
4.2 England_Roman:6DT18
0.6 England_Roman:3DT16

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02151614 England_Roman
0.02415237 England_Saxon
0.02683984 England_IA
0.02839264 England_MBA
0.03363919 England_CA_EBA
0.03568083 England_EMBA
0.04653578 England_LBA

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.0154% / 0.02015412
63.0 England_Roman
36.0 England_Saxon
1.0 England_EMBA

Quote:

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Originally Posted by celticdragongod

Why?

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because scoring slavic doesnt make sense to me i guess.

Quote:

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Target: drb_scaled
Distance: 1.6605% / 0.01660500
50.6 England_Saxon
34.6 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
14.8 England_Roman

Distance to: drb_scaled
0.02307615 England_Saxon:I0161
0.02810254 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt035
0.02878525 England_Roman:6DT22
0.02974681 England_Saxon:I0777
0.03013960 England_Roman:6DT18
0.03143234 England_Saxon:I0774
0.03227363 England_Saxon:I0159
0.03309416 England_Roman:3DT16
0.03496423 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97002
0.03636424 England_Saxon:I0769
0.03880148 England_Saxon:NO3423
0.03922251 England_Saxon:I0157
0.03948271 England_Roman:6DT21
0.04177259 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001
0.04205554 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036
0.04235873 England_Roman:6DT23
0.04252220 England_Saxon:I0773
0.04473558 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg021
0.04940768 England_Roman:6DT3
0.05141988 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026
0.05221888 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_kls001
0.05671453 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_nuf002
0.05913457 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160
0.05946080 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm021
0.06577028 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm035

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+ all samples in thread

Quote:

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Distance to: drb_scaled
0.02307615 England_Saxon:I0161
0.02387674 England_IA
0.02640950 England_Roman
0.02714038 Germanic:Deutschendorf_Poprad_MA
0.02810254 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt035
0.02812216 England_Saxon
0.02878525 England_Roman:6DT22
0.02974681 England_Saxon:I0777
0.03013960 England_Roman:6DT18
0.03143234 England_Saxon:I0774
0.03227363 England_Saxon:I0159
0.03300256 England_MBA
0.03309416 England_Roman:3DT16
0.03496423 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97002
0.03523471 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.03534875 Germanic:Norse
0.03636424 England_Saxon:I0769
0.03832271 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.03858435 England_CA_EBA
0.03880148 England_Saxon:NO3423
0.03922251 England_Saxon:I0157
0.03948271 England_Roman:6DT21
0.04050451 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.04050682 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.04170960 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119

Target: drb_scaled
Distance: 1.1261% / 0.01126136
47.6 England_Saxon
23.0 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
16.0 Celtic
13.4 Roman

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Target: Africanwidow
Distance: 4.7851% / 0.04785146
45.6 Germanic:DEU_MA
35.6 Germanic:SWE_IA
18.8 Germanic:DNK_BA

Target: bandoge_simulated_scaled
Distance: 2.5188% / 0.02518813 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.6 Roman
27.0 Celtic
6.4 Germanic

Target: bandoge_simulated_scaled
Distance: 2.6010% / 0.02601024 | ADC: 0.5x RC
59.0 Roman
41.0 Celtic

Target: Magma_scaled
Distance: 2.4918% / 0.02491828 | ADC: 0.25x RC
81.2 Slavic
18.8 Germanic

It would be better if there were Baltic and Finnic samples too.

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.0580% / 0.02058040 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.2 Slavic
24.6 Germanic
21.0 Paleo-Balkan
6.2 Roman

Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
0.04296864 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.04341445 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.04442437 Slavic:Sorb
0.04580652 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.04591672 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.04924678 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.05438954 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.05461233 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.06639042 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.06668254 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.07365922 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.07755661 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.07789848 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.07790835 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.08345309 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.08933765 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.09401348 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.10968130 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.14556913 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

Gives pretty close distance

Target: DanjojoG25sim
Distance: 0.3530% / 0.00352963 | R4P
40.8 Slavic
20.6 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
20.2 Roman
18.4 England_Saxon

No Romans 5pop
Target: DanjojoG25sim
Distance: 0.4534% / 0.00453441 | R5P
38.2 Slavic
21.2 England_Saxon
19.8 Celtic
12.8 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
8.0 Paleo-Balkan

With Romans 5pop
Target: DanjojoG25sim
Distance: 0.3512% / 0.00351208 | R5P
39.4 Slavic
21.4 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
19.6 Roman
18.4 England_Saxon
1.2 Paleo-Balkan

Distance to: DanjojoG25sim
0.02341246 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036
0.03105172 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.03206922 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.03322490 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97002
0.03351520 England_Saxon:I0774
0.03598671 England_Roman:6DT22
0.03613615 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt035
0.03648838 England_IA
0.03740481 England_Roman
0.03752700 Slavic:Sorb
0.03799583 England_Saxon:I0161
0.03821276 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001
0.03835122 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.03854740 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg021
0.03875582 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026
0.03888519 England_Roman:3DT16
0.03914576 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.03942796 England_Saxon
0.03963501 England_Roman:6DT21
0.04122185 England_MBA
0.04174337 England_Saxon:I0777
0.04209612 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160
0.04215320 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.04371748 England_Saxon:I0159
0.04381843 England_CA_EBA

Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 0.0139% / 0.01385623
67.7 Slavic
32.3 Roman



Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 0.0139% / 0.01385623
50.3 Slavic:Ukrainian
17.4 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
17.0 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
15.3 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.5991% / 0.01599138 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.4 Slavic
35.4 Germanic
13.2 Celtic

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 2.4779% / 0.02477878 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.0 Germanic
25.0 Slavic
9.0 Celtic

Slavic seems notably inflated for me but not for my wife. My wife usually never gets Celtic, so that's a deviation as well.

Target: Nixie
Distance: 0.5820% / 0.00581969 | ADC: 0.25x RC
68.2 Slavic
14.4 Roman
12.6 Paleo-Balkan
2.8 Germanic
2.0 Celtic


Target: Nixie
Distance: 0.5820% / 0.00581969 | ADC: 0.25x RC
68.0 Slavic:Ukrainian
14.4 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
12.6 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
2.8 Germanic: DEU_MA
2.0 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.2 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav

Original


https://sun9-61.userapi.com/impg/xxj...1e8&type=album






With Baltic, Finnish and Estonian BA/IA


https://sun1-83.userapi.com/impg/VAV...7ec&type=album

Distance to: Rizza
0.03518854 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.04921250 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.05208813 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.05398872 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.05821314 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.05853594 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.05965895 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.06157737 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.06897446 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.07109245 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.07670966 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.07789737 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.07844723 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.08834846 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.08912842 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.09809367 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.10143689 Slavic:Sorb
0.10244420 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.10348662 Slavic:Ukrainian



When I removed Roman


Target: Rizza
Distance: 2.9407% / 0.02940730
77.8 Paleo-Balkan
14.2 Slavic
8.0 Celtic

Sardinians adding Nuragic BA. Basically a Nuragic-Roman mix

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...49ccda787a.jpg

Distances

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Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.9187% / 0.01918679 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.0 Germanic
25.0 Slavic
18.2 Paleo-Balkan
17.8 Celtic

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.7721% / 0.01772079
66.2 Slavic
28.0 Roman
4.0 Paleo-Balkan
1.8 Germanic

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.7721% / 0.01772079
60.6 Slavic:Ukrainian
18.4 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
6.6 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
5.6 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
4.0 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
3.0 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
1.8 Germanic:DNK_BA



I don't understand "Roman". they were way too mixed from the start to consider them a genetic category.

Distance to: Nurzat
0.04197996 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.05144131 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.05404992 Slavic:Sorb
0.05688101 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.05859139 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.05925845 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.06063056 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.06394723 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.06564801 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.06755546 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.06815440 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.07084270 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.07161354 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.07603706 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.07842420 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.08560646 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.09533902 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.09774448 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.12544732 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

dp

Distance to: Mirek_scaled
0.03448705 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.03479172 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.03494506 Slavic:Sorb
0.04620281 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.04907545 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.05048703 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.05733598 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.05740532 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.05778285 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.06073028 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.06713346 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.08207239 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.08570368 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.08642415 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.09911031 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.10029877 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.10880279 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.11324126 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.15639350 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial


Target: Mirek_scaled
Distance: 1.7664% / 0.01766407 | ADC: 0.25x RC
60.6 Slavic
39.4 Celtic


Target: Mirek_scaled
Distance: 1.7663% / 0.01766296
58.2 Slavic:Ukrainian
17.8 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
16.0 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
4.8 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
2.4 Slavic:Sorb
0.8 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116