https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...oCROMATICO.jpg
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...ACROMATICO.jpg
Both my and my father's maps are superimposed.
Red -Father.
Green-Mine
Rest-Equal
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...noMioYpapa.jpg
Printable View
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...oCROMATICO.jpg
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...ACROMATICO.jpg
Both my and my father's maps are superimposed.
Red -Father.
Green-Mine
Rest-Equal
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...noMioYpapa.jpg
what is your Ancient Ancestry Breakdown?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gallop
Global Mine (No limit)Quote:
Originally Posted by Far_away
Bronze
European Farmer (6300–2800 BC)49.0%
Central Steppe (2100–1800 BC)40.4%
Bronze Age Caucasian (3700–1700 BC)5.2%
Northwest African (5200–4900 BC)3.2%
Savanna Pastoral Neolithic (2000 BC–AD 600)2.2%
Egyptian (780–400 BC)0.6%
Global No limit
Middle Ages
Mine
Iberian (AD 300–1200)39.2%
Sardinian (AD 770–1000)20.8%
Insular Celt (AD 100–1000)19.4%
France (AD 130–1400)12.6%
Kartvelian3.4%
North African (AD 580–1160)1.8%
Cushitic (2000 BC–AD 600)1.6%
Baltic (AD 900–1050)0.6%
East Siberian (AD 1050–1200)0.6%
Father
Iberian (AD 300–1200)33.8%
Sardinian (AD 770–1000)18.2%
France (AD 130–1400)17.0%
Insular Celt (AD 100–1000)12.6%
European Jew (AD 1160–1400)7.6%
Baltic (AD 900–1050)6.6%
North African (AD 580–1160)3.0%
Khoisan0.6%
Bantu0.6%
Me:
Spoiler!
Interesting that you have 0% of any Levantine in your results, despite having Syrian ancestry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rafael Passoni
Using the Customizable Modern Ancestry setting (but set to default, I did not select these populations), this is my result. And also my mom's. Looks very good. Our coordinates are from AncestryDNA data.
Me
https://i.imgur.com/x1x8eeq.png
Mom
https://i.imgur.com/4PXV64G.png
Top 10 2-way models
https://i.imgur.com/HmVUjcT.jpg
Illustrative DNA is a fucking rip off. Charging people 30 bucks for something that I do for fun, making similar models and modeling people for free..
I uploaded my raw data, I'll post results in a couple days.
My modern custom, all sources:
https://i.ibb.co/RYnBwgB/Screenshot-...754-Chrome.jpg
Custom populations only with Southwest, West, and Northwest Europe:
https://i.ibb.co/xFHFyxV/Screenshot-...638-Chrome.jpg
SW Finnish is more similar to Scandinavians than East Finland? It's quite high.
It's 17,99€ bro not 30$ :cool2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesoman
Ancient Custom, 2-Way:
https://i.ibb.co/w69VQS9/Screenshot-...821-Chrome.jpg
Ancient Custom, unlimited
https://i.ibb.co/CJ61t9G/Screenshot-...349-Chrome.jpg
Middle Ages-Regional
Attachment 122607
Middle Ages-Global
Attachment 122608
Modern
Attachment 122609
I have no idea why the pics are small. Do you guys know the reason? I'd appreciate the help.
My sons illustrative results
Attachment 122614
A member from another forum told me that ge paid 30. Either way, if it's just 18, you can still pay 11 euros and get the coordinates and I'll take care of the restQuote:
Originally Posted by Demirkazık
Customizable Ancient Ancestry
Germanic (AD 100–630)63.8%
France (AD 130–1400)33.4%
North Amerindian (4000 BC–AD 1600)2.8%
Periodical Ancient Ancestry Breakdown
Migration Period
Germanic (AD 100–630)52.2%
Roman Britain (AD 100–400)26.2%
Roman Gaul (AD 130–500)12.6%
Pict (AD 300–500)9.0%
Middle Ages
Germanic (AD 700–1000)61.0%
France (AD 130–1400)29.8%
Italian (AD 650–1450)9.2%
It is basically the superficial : oh, look, new and shiny ! Factor. It was a waste of my money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesoman
Unfortunately, loads of people fall for that BSQuote:
Originally Posted by Sheppey
Customizable Modern Ancestry
My results to 5 populations and selecting all European plus Roma and Jews.
Mine
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...oblaciones.jpg
Father
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...acionesPop.jpg
I have a father who is half Portuguese and I don't know it.
:heh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gallop
Genetically Closest Modern Populations
POPULATION DISTANCE:
1 Dutch 2.467
2 Norwegian (Bergen) 2.499
3 Norwegian 2.500
4 Danish 2.522
5 Scottish 2.586
6 Orcadian 2.598
7 Irish 2.708
8 English 2.750
9 Welsh 2.765
10 Shetlander 2.808
11 Breton 2.945
12 Swedish 2.987
13 Icelander 3.016
14 German (Hamburg) 3.021
15 Cornish 3.121
16 German 3.121
17 German (Bavaria) 3.430
18 Belgian 3.674
19 Austrian 3.945
20 French Oοl (Pays de la Loire) 4.007
Genetically Closest Modern Populations:
1 Czech 2.321
2 German (Saxony) 2.701
3 Ukrainian (Lviv) 2.978
4 Slovene 3.016
5 Ukrainian (Zakarpattia) 3.166
6 Hungarian 3.216
7 Croat 3.277
8 Polish 3.413
9 German (Hamburg) 3.578
10 German (Bavaria) 3.694
11 Austrian 3.703
12 Polish (Wielkopolska) 3.760
13 German 3.778
14 Ukrainian (Sumy) 3.861
15 Slovak 3.880
16 Ukrainian (Zhytomyr) 4.000
17 Moldovan 4.114
18 Ukrainian (Donetsk) 4.168
19 Ukrainian (Cherkasy) 4.180
20 Ukrainian (Dnipro) 4.199
21 Ukrainian (Rivne) 4.224
22 Russian (Belgorod) 4.278
23 Russian (Voronez) 4.350
24 Ukrainian (Chernihiv) 4.353
25 Russian (Oryol) 4.361
26 Swedish 4.443
27 Russian (Smolensk) 4.457
28 Bosniak (Croatia) 4.525
29 Bosniak 4.561
30 Danish 4.700
Attachment 126455
Periodical Ancient Ancestry Breakdown
BRONZE AGE
Western Steppe (3300–2600 BC)
43.4%
European Farmer (6300–2800 BC)
41.2%
Baltic Hunter-Gatherer (5200–4200 BC)
14.2%
Canaanite (1800–1100 BC)
1.2%
IRON AGE
Balto-Slavic (900–350 BC)
49.0%
Illyrian (750–200 BC)
45.2%
Phoenician (1000–330 BC)
4.8%
Xiongnu (150–1 BC)
1.0%
MIGRATION PERIOD
Slavic (AD 540–1100)
65.6%
Roman Pannonia (AD 130–600)
26.8%
Roman Illyria (AD 100–600)
6.8%
Rouran Khaganate (AD 330–550)
0.8%
MIDDLE AGES
Slavic (AD 540–1270)
70.6%
Balkans (AD 500–1000)
28.2%
Magyar
1.2%
Ancient Populations 'Mixed Mode'
BRONZE AGE
1. Unetice Culture (Czechia) 84.1% - Cucuteni-Trypillia Culture (Ukraine) 15.9%
2. Unetice Culture (Czechia) 87% - Baden Culture (Hungary) 13%
3. Unetice Culture (Czechia) 84.8% - Globular Amphora Culture (Poland) 15.2%
4. Unetice Culture (Czechia) 88.9% - Bronze Age Aegean Helladic Culture (Greece) 11.1%
5. Srubnaya Culture (Russia) 67.3% - Globular Amphora Culture (Poland) 32.7%
IRON AGE
1. Gaul Etruria (Italy) 66.2% - Balt Bronze Age 33.8% (Latvia, Lithuania)
2. Balt Bronze Age (Latvia, Lithuania) 44.4% - North Illyrian (Croatia) 55.6%
3. Gaul Etruria (Italy) - 60.9% Estonia (Iron Age) 39.1%
4. Estonia Iron Age 68.5% - Hellenistic Greek Empuries (Spain) – 31.5%
5. Gaul Etruria (Italy) 57.5% - Northeast European Mercenary Himera Sicily (Italy) – 42.5%
ROMAN AGE
1. Nordic Iron Age Scania (Sweden) 48.7% - Byzantine Slav Nicaea (Turkey) 51.3%
2. Nordic Iron Age Scania (Sweden) 55.4% - Byzantine Slav Tragurium (Croatia) 44.6%
3. Balt Migration Period (Lithuania) 54% - Late Antiquity North Italian (Turin) 46%
4. Ingrian (Russia) 52.6% - Roman Pannonian (Croatia) 47.4%
5. Ingrian (Russia) 56.6% - Late Antiquity North Italian (Turin) 43.4%
MIDDLE AGES
1. Gleb Svyatoslavich Rurik Dynasty (Ukraine) 61.2% - Post-Medieval Faroese (Faore Islands) 38.8%
2. Gleb Svyatoslavich Rurik Dynasty (Ukraine) 62.2% - Medieval Frisian Groningen (Netherlands) 37.8%
3. Gleb Svyatoslavich Rurik Dynasty (Ukraine) 60.6% - Norse Viking Funen (Denmark) 39.4%
4. Gleb Svyatoslavich Rurik Dynasty (Ukraine) 58.8% - Norse Viking Skara (Sweden) 41.2%
5. Norse Viking Skara (Sweden) 35.2% - Post Medieval Syrmia (Serbia) 64.8%
Attachment 126457
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Attachment 126459
Nice results! A NW Croat. Could you share your scaled G25 coords, please? :)
Here are the coordinates. I hope to discover something interesting ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarface F
Quote:
0.127482,0.132019,0.063733,0.043282,0.040623,0.009 203,0.006815,0.006231,0.002659,-0.009659,0.00341,-0.008243,0.007433,0.024222,0.008958,-0.001458,-0.0103,0.000633,0.009176,0.002001,-0.001747,0.000989,0.00456,-0.001446,0.000838
0.0112,0.013,0.0169,0.0134,0.0132,0.0033,0.0029,0. 0027,0.0013,-0.0053,0.0021,-0.0055,0.005,0.0176,0.0066,-0.0011,-0.0079,0.0005,0.0073,0.0016,-0.0014,0.0008,0.0037,-0.0012,0.0007
You have very high Germanic input, but that is normal for NW Croats. Where are your 4 grandparents from, Zagorje?Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkoV
here is how you compare with other Kajkavian-speaking Croats :)
https://i.imgur.com/ewuPdHz.png
Only my dad has results from Illustrative DNA
https://i.imgur.com/ahSEE1C.png
So many people post their results again. Did they update them or so? Ok, here are mine. :)
Bronze Age
Western Steppe (3300–2600 BC) 45.8%
European Farmer (6300–2800 BC) 31.2%
Baltic Hunter-Gatherer (5200–4200 BC) 23.0%
Iron Age
Balto-Slavic (900–350 BC) 53.6%
Germanic (AD 100–600) 28.4%
Thracian (1100–200 BC) 14.6%
Illyrian (750–200 BC) 2.6%
Central Siberian (2400–2000 BC) 0.8%
Migration Period
Slavic (AD 540–1100) 64.4%
Germanic (AD 100–630) 29.0%
Volga (AD 200–400) 6.6%
Medieval
Slavic (AD 540–1270) 77.0%
Germanic (AD 700–1000) 20.4%
Volga (AD 200–400) 1.6%
Balkans (AD 500–1000) 1.0%
Periodical Ancient Ancestry Breakdown - Western Balkans
Bronze Age
European Farmer (6300–2800 BC) 43.4%
Western Steppe (3300–2600 BC) 38.8%
Baltic Hunter-Gatherer (5200–4200 BC) 9.2%
Bronze Age Anatolian (3400–1500 BC) 8.6%
Iron Age
Paeonian (750–100 BC) 45.8%
Balto-Slavic (900–350 BC) 40.8%
Anatolian (780–30 BC) 13.4%
Migration Period
Slavic (AD 540–1100) 54.0%
Roman Illyria (AD 100–600) 46.0%
Middle Ages
Slavic (AD 540–1270) 52.6%
Balkans (AD 500–1000) 47.4%
Are they really Germans by origin?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarface F
My FTDNA results
Slavic 57%
Central Europe 8%
Zagorje and Turopolje.
Can you check how much your Kajkavian samples are connected to the Vikings and how much the average German and Croatian samples is linked to the Vikings? Thank you.
I'm not the adressee, but I allow myself to comment: It's still unclear from where this substantial Germanic proportion in Kajkavian speakers comes. The fact that it's pretty evenly distributed suggests that it's an old contribution, so rather from Germanics (i. e. pre 800 AD) than from Germans (i. e. post 800 AD). I suspect Ostrogoths and/or Longobards, although it will likely not be monocausal anyhow.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkoV
Vikings are unrelated to this. The only relationship is that Vikings are also essentially derived from Germanics.
https://i.imgur.com/hu8eTUF.jpeg
I asked because I have more Scandinavian than German results.[
Attachment 126466
Attachment 126467
Attachment 126468
Attachment 126469
Closest Ancient Samples
Genetic Distance
Post-Medieval Syrmia
AD 14611635
3.305
Early Medieval Bohemian Slav
AD 500-941
3.393
Gleb Svyatoslavich (Rurik Dynasty)
AD 10521078
3.697
Byzantine Slav (Nicaea)
AD 680820
3.904
Nordic Iron Age (Scania)
AD 427611
4.042
Rus' (Sunghir)
AD 10501220
4.051
Medieval Pole (Silesian)
AD 9001000
4.051
Post-Medieval Swede (Kronan's Crew)
AD 1676
4.112
Baiuvarii
AD 450550
4.315
Medieval Dane (Zealand)
AD 10501250
4.355
Medieval Sorb (Krakauer Berg)
AD 10401402
4.386
Longobard (Pannonia)
AD 540568
4.467
Medieval South Slav (Doclea)
AD 7101163
4.505
Nordic Iron Age (Φland)
AD 300500
4.510
Norse Viking (Skara)
AD 9001100
4.610
Izyaslav Ingvarevich (Rurik Dynasty)
AD 11801223
4.634
Byzantine Slav (Tragurium)
AD 660780
4.702
Rus' (Suzdal)
AD 10021208
4.712
West European Crusader (Sidon)
AD 11911283
4.757
Medieval Pole (Polan)
AD 10001200
4.810
Norse Viking (Funen)
AD 8001000
Norse Viking (Funen)
AD 8001000
4.861
Medieval Schleswig
AD 10701210
4.870
Norse Viking (Sigtuna)
AD 8921040
4.979
Pannonian Slav (Avar Period)
AD 550640
5.009
Saxon (Friesland)
AD 431639
5.047
Post-Medieval Faroese
AD 15001700
5.062
Medieval Pole (Masovian)
AD 10001200
5.067
Norse Viking (Nordland)
AD 7001000
5.103
Medieval Jamt (Frφsφn)
AD 10161262
5.132
Hallstatt Culture
1200530 BC
5.143
Medieval Frisian (Groningen)
AD 7751155
5.166
Quadi
AD 100200
5.186
Goth (Wielbark Culture)
AD 40210
5.204
Nordic Iron Age (Stockholm)
AD 475520
5.228
Saxon (Lower Saxony)
AD 400800
5.267
Nordic Iron Age (Nordland)
AD 60400
5.289
Nordic Iron Age (Zealand)
AD 100300
Norse Viking (Zealand)
AD 8001000
5.308
Norse Viking (Saaremaa)
AD 700800
5.326
Early Norse (Greenland)
AD 9001200
5.334
Pre-Christian Norse (Iceland)
AD 8701000
5.352
Nordic Iron Age (Gotland)
AD 600
5.373
Nordic Iron Age (Rombδck)
AD 450500
5.383
Norse Viking (Oxford)
AD 8801000
Hello. Explanation is as the following:Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkoV
It's most likely trom medieval Germanic tribes. Unmixed Germanics were closer to modern Scandinavians than average modern Germans genetically, because Germans are more mixed.
There was no relevant Viking settlement in modern Croatia.
I would guess much of this Germanic admix in Kajkavians is from Langobards. We have Langobard sample from near Zagreb and he was Frisian like genetically if I remember correctly.
wow, I get very different results now when I switch mode to Global and no limit. Will post them.
BRONZE AGE
European Farmer (6300–2800 BC) 41.4%
Western Steppe (3300–2600 BC) 38.6%
Baltic Hunter-Gatherer (5200–4200 BC) 14.2%
Bronze Age Anatolian (3400–1500 BC) 5.2%
Yellow River (2300–1900 BC) 0.6%
IRON AGE
Balto-Slavic (900–350 BC) 58.4%
Thracian (1100–200 BC) 25.6%
Italic and Etruscan (900–200 BC) 14.0%
Greek (770–400 BC) 1.4%
Germanic (AD 100–600) 0.6%
MIGRATION PERIOD
Baltic (AD 260–540) 37.4%
Roman Sardinia (AD 400–500) 18.6%
Germanic (AD 100–630) 14.2%
Slavic (AD 540–1100) 8.8%
Lazica 8.8%
Roman Italy (20 BC–AD 600) 8.2%
Roman Anatolia (100 BC–AD 700) 3.2%
Rouran Khaganate (AD 330–550) 0.8%
MIDDLE AGES
Slavic (AD 540–1270) 57.8%
Sardinian (AD 770–1000) 12.6%
Iberian (AD 300–1200) 9.4%
Byzantine Anatolia (AD 500–1100) 8.0%
Baltic (AD 900–1050) 5.8%
Kartvelian 3.0%
Germanic (AD 700–1000)1.8%
North Caucasian (AD 650–1160)1.6%
Stears results are here :)
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...26%23127482%3B