G25 scaled European REGIONAL calculator: 8 groupings-- cool one!

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03-21-2023, 10:45 PM
rothaer

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 0.6719% / 0.00671918
55.4 North_Sea
33.8 Baltic
6.0 West_Mediterranean
4.0 Atlantic
0.8 East_Mediterranean
03-22-2023, 01:11 AM
cass

Quote:

Originally Posted by CordedWhelp

Most Western Europeans testing here probably do not actually have significant Baltic Finn or Slavic descent (unless of course there’s recent input)...Baltic is probably acting in some as a proxy for part of their Steppe genetics.

Eastern Hunter-Gatherer
03-22-2023, 01:16 AM
Figaro

Quote:

Originally Posted by cass

Eastern Hunter-Gatherer

And/or that, true.
03-22-2023, 01:19 AM
cass

Quote:

Originally Posted by CordedWhelp

And/or that, true.

It would be interesting to verify the same samples on the EHG/WHG calculator
03-22-2023, 02:43 AM
ScandinavianCelt

Quote:

Originally Posted by cass

It would be interesting to verify the same samples on the EHG/WHG calculator

Which calculator is that?
03-22-2023, 09:53 AM
cass

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt

Which calculator is that?

K11 10 kybp WHG-EHG calculator (Scaled) - Joachim
It doesn't look promising

ENF=Anatolia Barcin N
49.40%
EHG=RUS Karelia HG
46.60%
CHG=GEO CHG
4.00%
03-22-2023, 05:13 PM
ScandinavianCelt

Quote:

Originally Posted by cass

K11 10 kybp WHG-EHG calculator (Scaled) - Joachim
It doesn't look promising

ENF=Anatolia Barcin N
49.40%
EHG=RUS Karelia HG
46.60%
CHG=GEO CHG
4.00%

link the test??
03-22-2023, 05:27 PM
cass

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt

link the test??

1.K11 10 kybp WHG-EHG calculator (Scaled) - Joachim
I used
https://www.dnagenics.com/g25studio

It should be available elsewhere as well.

2.
https://app.gedmatch.com/AdmixtureHeritage.php
MDLP K11 Modern 4-Ancestors Oracle

# Population Percent
1 WHG 40.17
2 Neolithic 30.78
3 EHG 24.11
4 Iran-Mesolithic 2.66
5 Basal 1.69

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bell_Beaker_Germany @ 3.737715
2 Alberstedt_LN @ 3.997596
3 British_IronAge @ 4.037526
4 Halberstadt_LBA @ 4.186926
5 Bell_Beaker_Czech @ 4.660313
6 British_Celtic @ 4.731337
7 British_AngloSaxon @ 4.770487
8 Nordic_LN @ 5.570595
9 Unetice_EBA @ 5.913548
10 Nordic_MN_B @ 6.112702
11 Nordic_BA @ 6.379034
12 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN @ 7.337461
13 Nordic_IA @ 7.619865
14 Nordic_LBA @ 8.155544
15 Corded_Ware_Proto_Unetice_Poland @ 9.230302
16 Nordic_BattleAxe @ 10.347292
17 Corded_Ware_Estonia @ 11.946503
18 Unetice_MBA @ 12.600665
19 Irish_BA @ 12.957454
20 Bell_Beaker @ 13.605698

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% British_Celtic +50% Unetice_EBA @ 2.523215
03-22-2023, 06:04 PM
Lemminkäinen

Baltic proportions in these tests actually doesn't mean Baltic ancestry. It is more like a deep basin in a genetic geography around the eastern Baltic Sea region covering Finnic, Baltic and Slavic speakers, the purest form exists in Nortwest Russia, Belarusia, Baltic countries, including Estonia. The Finns have additional Western and Siberian admixtures.
03-22-2023, 09:59 PM
rothaer

Quote:

Originally Posted by cass

(...)

MDLP K11 Modern 4-Ancestors Oracle:

Spoiler!

MDLP K11 Modern 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

MDLP K11 2xOracle and OracleX4

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 39.32
2 Neolithic 29.27
3 EHG 25.17
4 Basal 4.25

Finished reading population data. 161 populations found.
11 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Alberstedt_LN @ 5.314427
2 Halberstadt_LBA @ 5.588054
3 Bell_Beaker_Czech @ 5.590325
4 Bell_Beaker_Germany @ 5.986980
5 Unetice_EBA @ 6.299456
6 Nordic_MN_B @ 6.302757
7 Nordic_LN @ 6.399058
8 British_AngloSaxon @ 6.409036
9 British_Celtic @ 6.656469
10 British_IronAge @ 7.307580
11 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN @ 7.491031
12 Nordic_BA @ 7.730505
13 Nordic_IA @ 8.928543
14 Corded_Ware_Proto_Unetice_Poland @ 9.018209
15 Nordic_LBA @ 9.581057
16 Nordic_BattleAxe @ 9.928373
17 Corded_Ware_Estonia @ 11.464704
18 Irish_BA @ 11.748592
19 Unetice_MBA @ 11.988288
20 Bell_Beaker @ 12.596687

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Corded_Ware_Germany +50% Vatya_MBA @ 4.264562

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bell_Beaker +25% Nordic_BA +25% Swedish_LN @ 1.338385

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Alberstedt_LN + Bell_Beaker + Corded_Ware_Germany + Swedish_LN @ 1.115972
2 Bell_Beaker + Halberstadt_LBA + Srubnaya_LBA + Swedish_LN @ 1.276918
3 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker_Germany + Corded_Ware_Germany + Swedish_LN @ 1.291884
4 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Nordic_BA + Swedish_LN @ 1.338385
5 Alberstedt_LN + Bell_Beaker + Srubnaya_LBA + Swedish_LN @ 1.357243
6 Bell_Beaker + Corded_Ware_Germany + Halberstadt_LBA + Swedish_LN @ 1.365671
7 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker_Czech + Srubnaya_LBA + Swedish_LN @ 1.389181
8 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker_Germany + Srubnaya_LBA + Swedish_LN @ 1.465396
9 Bell_Beaker + British_Celtic + Corded_Ware_Germany + Swedish_LN @ 1.477863
10 Bell_Beaker + BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Swedish_LN @ 1.526041
11 Alberstedt_LN + Halberstadt_LBA + Karsdorf_LN + Swedish_LN @ 1.611383
12 Alberstedt_LN + Bell_Beaker + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Swedish_LN @ 1.643844
13 Alberstedt_LN + Alberstedt_LN + Karsdorf_LN + Swedish_LN @ 1.657329
14 Bell_Beaker + Corded_Ware_Germany + Halberstadt_LBA + Swedish_LN @ 1.680626
15 Bell_Beaker + British_AngloSaxon + Srubnaya_LBA + Swedish_LN @ 1.730265
16 Alberstedt_LN + Bell_Beaker_Germany + Karsdorf_LN + Swedish_LN @ 1.753007
17 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker_Czech + Corded_Ware_Germany + Swedish_LN @ 1.756896
18 Bell_Beaker_Germany + Halberstadt_LBA + Karsdorf_LN + Swedish_LN @ 1.767450
19 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker_Germany + Corded_Ware_Germany + Swedish_LN @ 1.788093
20 Bell_Beaker + British_Celtic + Srubnaya_LBA + Swedish_LN @ 1.810624

Done.

Elapsed time 0.5060 seconds.
03-22-2023, 10:33 PM
Eurafricanid

Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 1.3458% / 0.01345849
47.0 Sub_Sahara
26.0 Atlantic
11.2 East_Mediterranean
8.8 North_Sea
3.4 West_Mediterranean
2.6 Indigenous_Eastern_South_America
0.6 Baltic
0.4 North_Africa

Interesting one :icon_ask:, I whouldn't have chosen these samples, though.
03-23-2023, 12:34 AM
rothaer

Quote:

Originally Posted by cass

K11 10 kybp WHG-EHG calculator (Scaled) - Joachim
It doesn't look promising

ENF=Anatolia Barcin N
49.40%
EHG=RUS Karelia HG
46.60%
CHG=GEO CHG
4.00%

I'm pretty sure that something is wrong as you get zero WHG.

With the practically identical successor (K12 10 kybp WHG-EHG G25 calculator scaled) I get this:

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 5.9313% / 0.05931296
45.0 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N
36.6 EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG
9.6 WHG=LUX_Loschbour
8.8 CHG=GEO_CHG

The source is here:

Spoiler!

ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312 ,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
CHG=GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
EA=RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N,0.0227646,-0.4480516,0.0728598,-0.052972,-0.0414846,-0.0407738,0.005264,0.011215,0.0075266,0.021431,-0.0507624,-0.005665,0.0027948,0.0100466,-0.0100162,-0.0120658,-0.0043026,0.0060558,0.0153102,0.0099798,0.0104566,-0.0287366,-0.0196458,-0.0016628,-0.0099152
EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG,0.1236877,0.0321583,0.129855,0. 2101663,-0.010361,0.0571723,-0.0196627,-0.0234603,-0.002659,-0.0860153,0.0182957,-0.0184337,0.0333497,-0.039085,0.018865,0.0295237,-0.0148203,0.0031673,-0.0044413,0.012506,-0.007487,0.0169817,0.0093667,-0.021007,-0.0103383
WHG=LUX_Loschbour,0.133173,0.106631,0.20176,0.1921 86,0.164338,0.055778,0.00611,0.036922,0.096535,0.0 2278,-0.020786,-0.016186,0.024975,-0.007432,0.065824,0.063643,0.008084,0.006714,-0.013324,0.065281,0.120038,0.019166,-0.059405,-0.175687,0.022992
Amerind=RUS_Kolyma_Meso,0.046667,-0.344264,0.090509,0.045543,-0.08063,-0.023148,-0.048882,-0.053075,-0.007363,-0.025149,0.006983,-0.007343,0.014717,-0.025598,-0.020901,-0.003315,0.00339,0.008868,0.016592,0.01038,0.00274 5,-0.022752,0.010723,0.009037,0.011855
Natufian=Levant_Natufian,0.020488,0.1431895,-0.0377125,-0.1387295,0.030775,-0.079484,-0.025616,-0.0175375,0.114329,0.002005,0.0332085,-0.0222555,0.076486,0.002133,0.0153365,0.009016,-0.0154505,-0.001014,-0.02206,0.040832,0.001497,0.0001235,-0.003636,-0.0044585,0.006287
S_Asian_HG=Jarawa,-0.0219821,-0.2430289,-0.1324164,0.0986968,0.0323713,-0.0045841,-0.01012,0.0065044,0.0546974,0.0238044,0.0228054,0. 0027349,-0.0041532,0.0103562,-0.0108067,-0.0114441,0.0094529,-0.0019082,-0.0062221,0.0286778,-0.0046401,0.0111366,-0.0123402,0.0022668,0.0049844
SSA=Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
OHG=AUS_Willandra_Lakes_WLH4,-0.042115,-0.224432,-0.205154,0.215442,0.145566,-0.322398,-0.007285,0.014538,-0.000818,0.003098,-0.004872,-0.002248,0.004311,-0.001239,-0.008415,-0.000796,0.004694,-0.001774,-0.01169,-0.003377,0.003369,-0.006801,-0.000863,-0.001928,-0.00946
Iberomaurusian=MAR_Iberomaurusian,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
MAG=BEL_GoyetQ2:GoyetQ2,0.071709,0.03859,0.067127, 0.122095,0.085554,0.016176,-0.00188,0.006923,0.079764,0.015855,-0.013478,-0.017085,0.009217,-0.019267,0.044245,0.036197,0.002217,0.003547,-0.009302,0.045272,0.054778,0.003215,-0.034263,-0.101942,0.011376

Maybe try again.
03-23-2023, 08:14 AM
cass

Quote:

Originally Posted by rothaer

I'm pretty sure that something is wrong as you get zero WHG.

With the practically identical successor (K12 10 kybp WHG-EHG G25 calculator scaled) I get this:

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 5.9313% / 0.05931296
45.0 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N
36.6 EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG
9.6 WHG=LUX_Loschbour
8.8 CHG=GEO_CHG

The source is here:

Spoiler!

ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312 ,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
CHG=GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
EA=RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N,0.0227646,-0.4480516,0.0728598,-0.052972,-0.0414846,-0.0407738,0.005264,0.011215,0.0075266,0.021431,-0.0507624,-0.005665,0.0027948,0.0100466,-0.0100162,-0.0120658,-0.0043026,0.0060558,0.0153102,0.0099798,0.0104566,-0.0287366,-0.0196458,-0.0016628,-0.0099152
EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG,0.1236877,0.0321583,0.129855,0. 2101663,-0.010361,0.0571723,-0.0196627,-0.0234603,-0.002659,-0.0860153,0.0182957,-0.0184337,0.0333497,-0.039085,0.018865,0.0295237,-0.0148203,0.0031673,-0.0044413,0.012506,-0.007487,0.0169817,0.0093667,-0.021007,-0.0103383
WHG=LUX_Loschbour,0.133173,0.106631,0.20176,0.1921 86,0.164338,0.055778,0.00611,0.036922,0.096535,0.0 2278,-0.020786,-0.016186,0.024975,-0.007432,0.065824,0.063643,0.008084,0.006714,-0.013324,0.065281,0.120038,0.019166,-0.059405,-0.175687,0.022992
Amerind=RUS_Kolyma_Meso,0.046667,-0.344264,0.090509,0.045543,-0.08063,-0.023148,-0.048882,-0.053075,-0.007363,-0.025149,0.006983,-0.007343,0.014717,-0.025598,-0.020901,-0.003315,0.00339,0.008868,0.016592,0.01038,0.00274 5,-0.022752,0.010723,0.009037,0.011855
Natufian=Levant_Natufian,0.020488,0.1431895,-0.0377125,-0.1387295,0.030775,-0.079484,-0.025616,-0.0175375,0.114329,0.002005,0.0332085,-0.0222555,0.076486,0.002133,0.0153365,0.009016,-0.0154505,-0.001014,-0.02206,0.040832,0.001497,0.0001235,-0.003636,-0.0044585,0.006287
S_Asian_HG=Jarawa,-0.0219821,-0.2430289,-0.1324164,0.0986968,0.0323713,-0.0045841,-0.01012,0.0065044,0.0546974,0.0238044,0.0228054,0. 0027349,-0.0041532,0.0103562,-0.0108067,-0.0114441,0.0094529,-0.0019082,-0.0062221,0.0286778,-0.0046401,0.0111366,-0.0123402,0.0022668,0.0049844
SSA=Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
OHG=AUS_Willandra_Lakes_WLH4,-0.042115,-0.224432,-0.205154,0.215442,0.145566,-0.322398,-0.007285,0.014538,-0.000818,0.003098,-0.004872,-0.002248,0.004311,-0.001239,-0.008415,-0.000796,0.004694,-0.001774,-0.01169,-0.003377,0.003369,-0.006801,-0.000863,-0.001928,-0.00946
Iberomaurusian=MAR_Iberomaurusian,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
MAG=BEL_GoyetQ2:GoyetQ2,0.071709,0.03859,0.067127, 0.122095,0.085554,0.016176,-0.00188,0.006923,0.079764,0.015855,-0.013478,-0.017085,0.009217,-0.019267,0.044245,0.036197,0.002217,0.003547,-0.009302,0.045272,0.054778,0.003215,-0.034263,-0.101942,0.011376

Maybe try again.

You were right. Maybe the source was screwed up.

Target: sample
Distance: 6.5088% / 0.06508827
44.8 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N
37.8 EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG
9.0 CHG=GEO_CHG
8.4 WHG=LUX_Loschbour
03-23-2023, 08:58 AM
paradox

Target: paradox_scaled
Distance: 1.1542% / 0.01154206
52.2 East_Mediterranean
28.0 Baltic
10.4 West_Mediterranean
9.2 North_Sea
0.2 Siberia

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 1.5824% / 0.01582386
35.0 East_Mediterranean
32.8 Baltic
18.2 North_Sea
13.8 West_Mediterranean
0.2 Siberia
03-23-2023, 03:13 PM
Pedro Ruben

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 1.0815% / 0.01081462
41.4 North_Sea
23.6 Atlantic
20.6 North_Africa
11.2 West_Mediterranean
2.8 East_Mediterranean
0.4 Sub_Sahara

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 1.0239% / 0.01023934
28.4 North_Sea
23.6 Atlantic
19.0 North_Africa
17.4 West_Mediterranean
6.4 Baltic
3.0 East_Mediterranean
1.6 Sub_Sahara
0.6 Siberia

Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 1.1076% / 0.01107556
36.0 North_Sea
33.8 Atlantic
13.0 West_Mediterranean
11.2 North_Africa
4.2 East_Mediterranean
1.8 Sub_Sahara
03-24-2023, 10:26 PM
frankhammer

Target: Blowme_scaled
Distance: 1.3496% / 0.01349615
64.0 North_Sea
24.4 Atlantic
7.6 Baltic
3.0 West_Mediterranean
1.0 East_Mediterranean
03-25-2023, 12:24 AM
ombustman

Target: Ombustman_scaled
Distance: 3.5255% / 0.03525496
74.4 East_Mediterranean
12.4 Baltic
9.8 Siberia
2.4 North_Sea
1.0 Sub_Sahara
03-08-2024, 12:31 AM
Athalafuns

Target: RNB27
Distance: 0.9868% / 0.00986808
40.8 North_Sea
27.8 Atlantic
13.2 West_Mediterranean
9.6 North_Africa
8.0 East_Mediterranean
0.4 Siberia
0.2 Sub_Sahara
03-08-2024, 02:08 AM
MBVC

Target: MBVC_scaled
Distance: 0.0198% / 0.01976889
66.4 North_Africa
20.6 East_Mediterranean
6.2 West_Mediterranean
6.0 Baltic
0.8 Sub_Sahara
03-08-2024, 08:39 AM
celticdragongod

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02511002 North_Sea:Netherlands7
0.02724404 North_Sea:Netherlands36
0.02812992 North_Sea:Netherlands14
0.02927963 North_Sea:Netherlands42
0.03085217 North_Sea:Netherlands12
0.03119216 North_Sea:Netherlands63
0.03237708 North_Sea:Netherlands23
0.03309811 North_Sea:Netherlands11
0.03375572 North_Sea:Netherlands49
0.03407182 North_Sea:Netherlands64
0.03427529 North_Sea:Netherlands54
0.03438299 North_Sea:Netherlands4
0.03440631 North_Sea:Netherlands43
0.03457344 North_Sea:Netherlands45
0.03478778 North_Sea:Netherlands44
0.03487860 North_Sea:Netherlands8
0.03499999 North_Sea:Netherlands51
0.03525423 North_Sea:Netherlands21
0.03543592 North_Sea:Netherlands18
0.03632323 North_Sea:Netherlands53
0.03647844 North_Sea:Netherlands2
0.03670056 North_Sea:Netherlands58
0.03676020 North_Sea:Netherlands9
0.03694730 North_Sea:Netherlands48
0.03733577 North_Sea:Netherlands10

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 0.9670% / 0.00967032
97.0 North_Sea
2.0 Baltic
1.0 Atlantic

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 0.9670% / 0.00967040
21.0 North_Sea:Netherlands7
16.0 North_Sea:Netherlands12
13.4 North_Sea:Netherlands43
10.4 North_Sea:Netherlands36
10.0 North_Sea:Netherlands58
8.2 North_Sea:Netherlands54
8.0 North_Sea:Netherlands64
7.6 North_Sea:Netherlands42
2.0 Baltic:latvian22J5
1.8 North_Sea:Netherlands2
0.8 Atlantic:BAS30
0.4 North_Sea:Netherlands18
0.4 North_Sea:Netherlands8
03-08-2024, 08:43 AM
celticdragongod

Quote:

Originally Posted by rothaer

I'm pretty sure that something is wrong as you get zero WHG.

With the practically identical successor (K12 10 kybp WHG-EHG G25 calculator scaled) I get this:

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 5.9313% / 0.05931296
45.0 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N
36.6 EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG
9.6 WHG=LUX_Loschbour
8.8 CHG=GEO_CHG

The source is here:

Spoiler!

ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312 ,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
CHG=GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
EA=RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N,0.0227646,-0.4480516,0.0728598,-0.052972,-0.0414846,-0.0407738,0.005264,0.011215,0.0075266,0.021431,-0.0507624,-0.005665,0.0027948,0.0100466,-0.0100162,-0.0120658,-0.0043026,0.0060558,0.0153102,0.0099798,0.0104566,-0.0287366,-0.0196458,-0.0016628,-0.0099152
EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG,0.1236877,0.0321583,0.129855,0. 2101663,-0.010361,0.0571723,-0.0196627,-0.0234603,-0.002659,-0.0860153,0.0182957,-0.0184337,0.0333497,-0.039085,0.018865,0.0295237,-0.0148203,0.0031673,-0.0044413,0.012506,-0.007487,0.0169817,0.0093667,-0.021007,-0.0103383
WHG=LUX_Loschbour,0.133173,0.106631,0.20176,0.1921 86,0.164338,0.055778,0.00611,0.036922,0.096535,0.0 2278,-0.020786,-0.016186,0.024975,-0.007432,0.065824,0.063643,0.008084,0.006714,-0.013324,0.065281,0.120038,0.019166,-0.059405,-0.175687,0.022992
Amerind=RUS_Kolyma_Meso,0.046667,-0.344264,0.090509,0.045543,-0.08063,-0.023148,-0.048882,-0.053075,-0.007363,-0.025149,0.006983,-0.007343,0.014717,-0.025598,-0.020901,-0.003315,0.00339,0.008868,0.016592,0.01038,0.00274 5,-0.022752,0.010723,0.009037,0.011855
Natufian=Levant_Natufian,0.020488,0.1431895,-0.0377125,-0.1387295,0.030775,-0.079484,-0.025616,-0.0175375,0.114329,0.002005,0.0332085,-0.0222555,0.076486,0.002133,0.0153365,0.009016,-0.0154505,-0.001014,-0.02206,0.040832,0.001497,0.0001235,-0.003636,-0.0044585,0.006287
S_Asian_HG=Jarawa,-0.0219821,-0.2430289,-0.1324164,0.0986968,0.0323713,-0.0045841,-0.01012,0.0065044,0.0546974,0.0238044,0.0228054,0. 0027349,-0.0041532,0.0103562,-0.0108067,-0.0114441,0.0094529,-0.0019082,-0.0062221,0.0286778,-0.0046401,0.0111366,-0.0123402,0.0022668,0.0049844
SSA=Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
OHG=AUS_Willandra_Lakes_WLH4,-0.042115,-0.224432,-0.205154,0.215442,0.145566,-0.322398,-0.007285,0.014538,-0.000818,0.003098,-0.004872,-0.002248,0.004311,-0.001239,-0.008415,-0.000796,0.004694,-0.001774,-0.01169,-0.003377,0.003369,-0.006801,-0.000863,-0.001928,-0.00946
Iberomaurusian=MAR_Iberomaurusian,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
MAG=BEL_GoyetQ2:GoyetQ2,0.071709,0.03859,0.067127, 0.122095,0.085554,0.016176,-0.00188,0.006923,0.079764,0.015855,-0.013478,-0.017085,0.009217,-0.019267,0.044245,0.036197,0.002217,0.003547,-0.009302,0.045272,0.054778,0.003215,-0.034263,-0.101942,0.011376

Maybe try again.

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.21790130 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N
0.22547320 MAG=BEL_GoyetQ2:GoyetQ2
0.24790376 EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG
0.27700425 CHG=GEO_CHG
0.30766764 Natufian=Levant_Natufian
0.37022965 WHG=LUX_Loschbour
0.46495157 S_Asian_HG=Jarawa
0.48349269 Iberomaurusian=MAR_Iberomaurusian
0.51584520 Amerind=RUS_Kolyma_Meso
0.61616440 EA=RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
0.62614568 OHG=AUS_Willandra_Lakes_WLH4
0.77737849 SSA=Yoruba

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 7.2330% / 0.07232959
47.6 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N
38.0 EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG
8.2 CHG=GEO_CHG
6.2 WHG=LUX_Loschbour
03-08-2024, 08:53 AM
celticdragongod

Quote:

Originally Posted by cass

1.K11 10 kybp WHG-EHG calculator (Scaled) - Joachim
I used
https://www.dnagenics.com/g25studio

It should be available elsewhere as well.

2.
https://app.gedmatch.com/AdmixtureHeritage.php
MDLP K11 Modern 4-Ancestors Oracle

# Population Percent
1 WHG 40.17
2 Neolithic 30.78
3 EHG 24.11
4 Iran-Mesolithic 2.66
5 Basal 1.69

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bell_Beaker_Germany @ 3.737715
2 Alberstedt_LN @ 3.997596
3 British_IronAge @ 4.037526
4 Halberstadt_LBA @ 4.186926
5 Bell_Beaker_Czech @ 4.660313
6 British_Celtic @ 4.731337
7 British_AngloSaxon @ 4.770487
8 Nordic_LN @ 5.570595
9 Unetice_EBA @ 5.913548
10 Nordic_MN_B @ 6.112702
11 Nordic_BA @ 6.379034
12 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN @ 7.337461
13 Nordic_IA @ 7.619865
14 Nordic_LBA @ 8.155544
15 Corded_Ware_Proto_Unetice_Poland @ 9.230302
16 Nordic_BattleAxe @ 10.347292
17 Corded_Ware_Estonia @ 11.946503
18 Unetice_MBA @ 12.600665
19 Irish_BA @ 12.957454
20 Bell_Beaker @ 13.605698

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% British_Celtic +50% Unetice_EBA @ 2.523215

MDLP K11 Modern 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

MDLP K11 2xOracle and OracleX4

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 36.73
2 Neolithic 33.52
3 EHG 26.97
4 Basal 1.58
5 Siberian 1.09

Finished reading population data. 161 populations found.
11 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Alberstedt_LN @ 2.719173
2 Bell_Beaker_Germany @ 3.741142
3 British_Celtic @ 4.121102
4 Halberstadt_LBA @ 4.522003
5 Bell_Beaker_Czech @ 6.616526
6 British_IronAge @ 7.523539
7 Nordic_MN_B @ 7.987760
8 British_AngloSaxon @ 8.507852
9 Nordic_LN @ 9.260494
10 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN @ 9.268548
11 Nordic_BA @ 9.924789
12 Unetice_EBA @ 10.003548
13 Bell_Beaker @ 10.456890
14 Nordic_BattleAxe @ 11.576344
15 Corded_Ware_Proto_Unetice_Poland @ 12.300920
16 Nordic_IA @ 12.611269
17 Irish_BA @ 12.627513
18 Nordic_LBA @ 13.341603
19 Corded_Ware_Estonia @ 15.032731
20 Hungary_BA @ 15.691175

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Alberstedt_LN +50% Alberstedt_LN @ 2.719173

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bell_Beaker +25% Unetice_EBA +25% Vatya_MBA @ 2.196334

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Bell_Beaker + Corded_Ware_Estonia + Halberstadt_LBA + Vatya_MBA @ 2.067905
2 Alberstedt_LN + Bell_Beaker + Corded_Ware_Estonia + Vatya_MBA @ 2.079977
3 Bell_Beaker + Halberstadt_LBA + Unetice_EBA + Vatya_MBA @ 2.129104
4 Alberstedt_LN + Bell_Beaker + Unetice_EBA + Vatya_MBA @ 2.133603
5 Bell_Beaker + Halberstadt_LBA + Maros_BA + Unetice_EBA @ 2.147737
6 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Unetice_EBA + Vatya_MBA @ 2.196334
7 Alberstedt_LN + Bell_Beaker + Maros_BA + Unetice_EBA @ 2.209530
8 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Nordic_BA + Vatya_MBA @ 2.209896
9 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + British_IronAge + Hungary_BA @ 2.223526
10 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + British_Celtic + Hungary_BA @ 2.245047
11 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker_Czech + Unetice_EBA + Vatya_MBA @ 2.266232
12 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker_Germany + Corded_Ware_Estonia + Vatya_MBA @ 2.270355
13 Alberstedt_LN + Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Hungary_BA @ 2.293182
14 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Hungary_BA + Nordic_BA @ 2.299236
15 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + British_AngloSaxon + Vatya_MBA @ 2.308106
16 Bell_Beaker + Germany_BA + Halberstadt_LBA + Unetice_EBA @ 2.322261
17 Bell_Beaker + Halberstadt_LBA + Germany_Bronze_Age + Unetice_EBA @ 2.322261
18 Alberstedt_LN + Alberstedt_LN + Bell_Beaker + Hungary_BA @ 2.330070
19 Bell_Beaker + Corded_Ware_Proto_Unetice_Poland + Halberstadt_LBA + Vatya_MBA @ 2.345008
20 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker_Czech + Germany_BA + Unetice_EBA @ 2.346386
03-08-2024, 10:04 AM
Petalpusher

Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 2.1712% / 0.02171245
44.6 North_Sea
36.8 Atlantic
12.0 Baltic
6.6 West_Mediterranean

Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 2.1713% / 0.02171270
24.0 North_Sea:Netherlands12
16.8 Atlantic:BAS32
11.6 Atlantic:BAS35
11.0 Baltic:latvian22J5
8.6 North_Sea:Netherlands59
6.4 West_Mediterranean:HGDP01078
6.0 Atlantic:BAS25
4.6 North_Sea:Netherlands35
3.2 North_Sea:Netherlands18
3.2 North_Sea:Netherlands32
2.8 Atlantic:BAS28
1.2 Baltic:latvian54A2
0.6 North_Sea:Netherlands60
03-08-2024, 10:19 AM
tk'es

Distance to: tk'es_scaled
0.11233551 East_Mediterranean:Cyprus21AJ19
0.11467005 East_Mediterranean:CYP19
0.12017936 East_Mediterranean:CYP2
0.12091783 East_Mediterranean:Cyprus22AJ19
0.12217149 East_Mediterranean:CYP5
0.12706393 East_Mediterranean:Cyprus24AJ19
0.13689536 East_Mediterranean:Cyprus2AJ19
0.14116637 North_Sea:Netherlands18
0.14245987 North_Sea:Netherlands33
0.14255412 North_Sea:Netherlands63
0.14290754 North_Sea:Netherlands22
0.14305678 North_Sea:Netherlands27
0.14310782 North_Sea:Netherlands6
0.14453742 North_Sea:Netherlands24
0.14513756 North_Sea:Netherlands31
0.14532828 North_Sea:Netherlands8
0.14580622 North_Sea:Netherlands54
0.14583256 North_Sea:Netherlands55
0.14610382 North_Sea:Netherlands4
0.14645549 North_Sea:Netherlands53
0.14667222 North_Sea:Netherlands50
0.14755220 North_Sea:Netherlands44
0.14824540 North_Sea:Netherlands43
0.14830169 North_Sea:Netherlands7
0.14869293 North_Sea:Netherlands34

Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 8.3279% / 0.08327933
63.2 East_Mediterranean
22.0 North_Sea
8.8 Baltic
5.6 Siberia
0.4 Sub_Sahara
03-08-2024, 10:27 AM
BrandenburgGaming

Target: BrandenburgGaming
Distance: 0.6830% / 0.00683048
60.8 North_Sea
28.0 Baltic
9.6 West_Mediterranean
1.6 Atlantic
03-08-2024, 03:08 PM
JerryS.

So Basque is basically half North Sea and half Sardinian?
03-10-2024, 09:22 AM
Vessna

Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 1.6284% / 0.01628429
78.8 Baltic
9.8 East_Mediterranean
6.6 North_Sea
2.4 West_Mediterranean
1.8 North_Africa
0.6 Siberia

Distance to: Vessna_scaled
0.03695357 Baltic:latvian54F2
0.03918833 Baltic:latvian58C6
0.04617847 Baltic:latvian22J5
0.05030815 Baltic:latvian54H7
0.05307115 Baltic:latvian54A2
0.07264256 North_Sea:Netherlands8
0.07326029 North_Sea:Netherlands56
0.07329625 North_Sea:Netherlands15
0.07349593 North_Sea:Netherlands33
0.07520361 North_Sea:Netherlands5
0.07527993 North_Sea:Netherlands41
0.07543445 North_Sea:Netherlands14
0.07682443 North_Sea:Netherlands49
0.07771509 North_Sea:Netherlands48
0.07842284 North_Sea:Netherlands11
0.07851769 North_Sea:Netherlands62
0.07868873 North_Sea:Netherlands60
0.07888642 North_Sea:Netherlands54
0.07925789 North_Sea:Netherlands2
0.08007939 North_Sea:Netherlands12
0.08024707 North_Sea:Netherlands58
0.08041556 North_Sea:Netherlands61
0.08100247 North_Sea:Netherlands51
0.08160878 North_Sea:Netherlands47
0.08183005 North_Sea:Netherlands6
03-10-2024, 09:31 AM
Mopi The Dire Wolf

Target: Mopi_scaled
Distance: 0.6418% / 0.00641785
59.2 North_Sea
17.2 Atlantic
16.0 West_Mediterranean
4.8 East_Mediterranean
1.4 North_Africa
1.0 Sub_Sahara
0.4 Siberia

Distance to: Mopi_scaled
0.04035346 North_Sea:Netherlands27
0.04371130 North_Sea:Netherlands30
0.04470912 North_Sea:Netherlands43
0.04500251 North_Sea:Netherlands25
0.04650035 North_Sea:Netherlands26
0.04829764 North_Sea:Netherlands31
0.04926958 North_Sea:Netherlands32
0.04951611 North_Sea:Netherlands18
0.04959419 North_Sea:Netherlands29
0.04986571 North_Sea:Netherlands33
0.05038735 North_Sea:Netherlands35
0.05126874 North_Sea:Netherlands34
0.05145576 North_Sea:Netherlands55
0.05214085 Atlantic:BAS28
0.05251751 North_Sea:Netherlands4
0.05254817 North_Sea:Netherlands52
0.05356943 North_Sea:Netherlands7
0.05397028 North_Sea:Netherlands63
0.05399279 North_Sea:Netherlands10
0.05435107 North_Sea:Netherlands53
0.05435521 Atlantic:BAS31
0.05475012 Atlantic:BAS32
0.05489427 North_Sea:Netherlands64
0.05499036 North_Sea:Netherlands22
0.05508177 Atlantic:BAS27
03-10-2024, 09:35 AM
Dušan

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 1.9097% / 0.01909739
53.0 Baltic
22.0 East_Mediterranean
20.4 West_Mediterranean
3.8 North_Sea
0.8 Siberia
12-07-2025, 05:34 PM
Repent

Distance to: Repent:RealG25_scaled
0.06300238 North_Sea:Netherlands33
0.06314639 North_Sea:Netherlands5
0.06348194 North_Sea:Netherlands41
0.06422178 Baltic:latvian54F2
0.06430106 North_Sea:Netherlands8
0.06697782 North_Sea:Netherlands14
0.06719170 North_Sea:Netherlands15
0.06792550 North_Sea:Netherlands56
0.06844248 North_Sea:Netherlands54
0.06864278 North_Sea:Netherlands18
0.06882186 North_Sea:Netherlands2
0.06911498 North_Sea:Netherlands62
0.06916461 North_Sea:Netherlands48
0.06918298 North_Sea:Netherlands49
0.06978818 North_Sea:Netherlands24
0.07039024 Baltic:latvian58C6
0.07081352 North_Sea:Netherlands10
0.07091413 Baltic:latvian22J5
0.07118856 North_Sea:Netherlands30
0.07122690 North_Sea:Netherlands6
0.07144476 North_Sea:Netherlands53
0.07185423 North_Sea:Netherlands28
0.07237976 North_Sea:Netherlands11
0.07258692 North_Sea:Netherlands57
0.07320471 North_Sea:Netherlands44

Target: Repent:RealG25_scaled
Distance: 1.9321% / 0.01932069
60.6 Baltic
19.0 East_Mediterranean
15.4 North_Sea
2.8 Siberia
2.2 West_Mediterranean

Sort of accurate.
12-07-2025, 06:24 PM
Figaro

Target: Figaro
Distance: 0.6480% / 0.00648023
59.2 North_Sea
25.6 Baltic
7.8 West_Mediterranean
4.6 East_Mediterranean
1.8 North_Africa
1.0 Siberia
12-07-2025, 06:33 PM
Repent

Quote:

Originally Posted by Figaro

Target: Figaro
Distance: 0.6480% / 0.00648023
59.2 North_Sea
25.6 Baltic
7.8 West_Mediterranean
4.6 East_Mediterranean
1.8 North_Africa
1.0 Siberia

Where did you get your North Africa from? From minor Ashkenazi?

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