Target: Stahl
Distance: 1.5053% / 0.01505258
65.2 Germanic
18.6 Keltic_Central_Euro
15.2 Balto-Slavic
1.0 East_Med
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Target: Stahl
Distance: 1.5053% / 0.01505258
65.2 Germanic
18.6 Keltic_Central_Euro
15.2 Balto-Slavic
1.0 East_Med
Target: cass
Distance: 1.3198% / 0.01319773
56.6 Balto-Slavic
26.0 Germanic
12.6 Keltic_Central_Euro
2.2 East_Med
1.8 Old_Balkan
0.8 Turkic_Steppe
Target: Catnip
Distance: 0.8753% / 0.00875346
36.6 Keltic_Central_Euro
34.8 Germanic
25.4 Old_Balkan
3.2 East_Med
How come there are Croats that score more Balto-Slavic then you who are Polish? or you are not maby "100" Polish? no offence just wondering how its possibleQuote:
Originally Posted by cass
Target: Hulu_scaled
Distance: 2.4483% / 0.02448327
64.2 Old_Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839
21.4 East_Med:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
7.6 Balto-Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
6.6 Keltic_Central_Euro:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG
0.2 Turkic_Steppe:Kazakhstan_TurkicPossible_EIA:MMR001
Target: Hulu_scaled
Distance: 3.2608% / 0.03260783 | ADC: 1x RC
100.0 Old_Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839
Rome recovered against Keltic again
Distance to: Hulu_scaled
0.03260783 Old_Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839
0.08652824 East_Med:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
0.09579660 Keltic_Central_Euro:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG
0.09644868 Keltic_Central_Euro:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11712
0.09725908 Keltic_Central_Euro:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713
0.10397255 Keltic_Central_Euro:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715
0.12728529 Germanic:ALH_1___AD_450___Coverage_94.81%
0.13189904 Germanic:SZ13___AD_488___Coverage_70.31%
0.13241932 Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%
0.13249959 Germanic:CL146___AD_605___Coverage_71.88%
0.14560719 Balto-Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.14634687 Balto-Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
0.15000399 Balto-Slavic:MA_Cedynia:VK212
0.15419425 Balto-Slavic:MA_Lad:PCA0189
0.20293159 Volga_Basin
0.35426005 Turkic_Steppe:Kazakhstan_TurkicPossible_EIA:MMR001
Target: Demirkazık_scaled
Distance: 3.2173% / 0.03217346
56.2 East_Med
25.8 Turkic_Steppe
11.2 Balto-Slavic
4.8 Old_Balkan
2.0 Keltic_Central_Euro
Target: Demirkazık_scaled
Distance: 2.1766% / 0.02176550
61.8 Byzantine
23.2 Turkic_Steppe
9.2 Balto-Slavic
4.6 Volga_Basin
1.2 Keltic_Central_Euro
Target: Demirkazık_scaled (With individually picked Byzantine samples)
Distance: 2.0571% / 0.02057088
61.4 Byzantine
25.0 Turkic_Steppe
13.6 Balto-Slavic
Adding Byzantine samples would be better than East_Med sample I think.
Code:Byzantine:Turkey_SoutheastByzantine,0.0974739,0.1373735,-0.0553339,-0.0671546,-0.0227733,-0.0191675,-0.0010468,-0.005748,-0.016864,0.0009609,0.0040596,-4.1e-05,-0.000419,0.0015514,-0.0062185,0.0041947,0.0041724,0.0004838,0.0026625,-0.0026605,0.0005445,0.0037434,0.002017,-0.0001314,-0.002384
Byzantine:Turkey_Byzantine,0.1023143,0.1475902,-0.0302536,-0.0595397,0.0003078,-0.0208239,-0.0007311,-0.0042819,-0.0064313,0.0158747,0.0028868,0.0025642,-0.0044102,0.0018657,-0.0118679,0.0026224,0.011836,-0.0010557,0.0040643,0.0017787,-0.0035908,0.0015389,-0.0008763,0.0013521,-0.0036989
Target: Bosnian
Distance: 1.3921% / 0.01392135
54.8 Balto-Slavic
24.6 Old_Balkan
12.8 East_Med
7.6 Germanic
0.2 Turkic_Steppe
Target: Bosnian
Distance: 1.2973% / 0.01297337
56.4 Balto-Slavic
20.8 Byzantine
15.4 Old_Balkan
7.4 Germanic
Target: Serbian
Distance: 1.2103% / 0.01210274
41.6 Balto-Slavic
38.4 Old_Balkan
9.6 Germanic
9.0 East_Med
0.8 Volga_Basin
0.6 Turkic_Steppe
Target: Serbian
Distance: 1.1395% / 0.01139535
42.2 Balto-Slavic
32.2 Old_Balkan
14.6 Byzantine
9.4 Germanic
1.2 Volga_Basin
0.4 Turkic_Steppe
Target: cakmir7y_scaled
Distance: 1.7917% / 0.01791741
57.4 Balto-Slavic
34.0 Keltic_Central_Euro
5.2 East_Med
2.0 Volga_Basin
1.4 Germanic
Thats extremely low Germanic :OQuote:
Originally Posted by cakmir7y
Seems legit:
Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.3100% / 0.01309994
40.6 Balto-Slavic
34.0 Germanic
21.0 Keltic_Central_Euro
2.4 Volga_Basin
2.0 East_Med
Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 1.2711% / 0.01271112
67.6 Germanic
32.2 Balto-Slavic
0.2 Turkic_Steppe
He is a Kashubian Pole. They are an ethnic minority in Poland who mixed with Germans during Prussian empire and therefore are more Germanic than the average Pole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Milenko
Interesting the Volga and the Finnic tiny bit in your sig. I know it’s fitting and not about being perfectly literal, but why do you suppose you score those?Quote:
Originally Posted by rothaer
Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 0.0179% / 0.01791272
50.9 Old_Balkan
26.4 East_Med
11.5 Keltic_Central_Euro
7.6 Germanic
2.3 Turkic_Steppe
1.3 Balto-Slavic
https://i.ibb.co/XF8ZfcD/0cas.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Milenko
I do not see a big discrepancy from the average of samples from wide Royal Prussia.
https://i.ibb.co/G5T8S3M/cass-0-05.png
I think he has probably seen a lot of Eastern Polish calculator results from TA members and therefore he is now confused why you score higher Germanic than them.Quote:
Originally Posted by cass
To Milenko, not only Kashubians but also other Western Poles who lived under Prussia have similar high Germanic results while Poles close to Lithuania/Belarus are very Slavic
Interesting. Does anyone have a more slavic result?
Target: ugo_wife_scaled
Distance: 2.3248% / 0.02324838
92.2 Balto-Slavic
5.6 Volga_Basin
1.8 Turkic_Steppe
0.4 Old_Balkan
Oh, nice. We were just discussing that topic. Let me just check all my Polish samples (especially the ones from the East) if they have more. But I am sure there are someQuote:
Originally Posted by ugochaves
Yes, I found in my samples for example the Polish user LM662072
Here are his results :
Target: Polish:LM662072_scaled
Distance: 2.1741% / 0.02174061
92.4 Balto-Slavic
7.2 Keltic_Central_Euro
0.4 Germanic
My result is very modest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Katarzyna
Target: ugo_scaled
Distance: 1.5038% / 0.01503779
82.4 Balto-Slavic
15.0 Volga_Basin
2.0 Old_Balkan
0.6 Turkic_Steppe
Target: Moksha
Distance: 1.1289% / 0.01128939
53.8 Balto-Slavic
31.6 Volga_Basin
4.0 East_Med
3.8 Old_Balkan
3.4 Germanic
3.4 Turkic_Steppe
I think both your wife and the user LM662072‘s results are somehow not complete, because look at their bad distance. Mine and your distance is much better and we are less Slavic than them. Something is missing them in their distance, I think they need some extra component.Quote:
Originally Posted by ugochaves
Its worth quoting first passages of Gunther Grass "First there were the Rugiers, then came the Goths and Gepides, followed by the Kashubes, from whom Oskar descends directly. Soon after, the Poles sent Adalbert of Prague. He came with the cross and was slain with the axe by the Kashubes or the Prussian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Katarzyna
Target: Kaspias_scaled
Distance: 2.7016% / 0.02701645
38.6 East_Med
28.6 Balto-Slavic
21.2 Turkic_Steppe
11.6 Keltic_Central_Euro
If remove East_Med it gives a pretty solid result
Target: Kaspias_scaled
Distance: 3.3083% / 0.03308324
51.0 Old_Balkan
24.6 Balto-Slavic
24.4 Turkic_Steppe
I think he is Balt. Try this for himQuote:
Originally Posted by Katarzyna
BeforeQuote:
Baltic_LTU_BA,0.129189,0.1284645,0.091075,0.093993 ,0.040469,0.036395,0.0072855,0.011076,-0.0031705,-0.0483835,-0.0021925,-0.017834,0.0152375,0.026905,-0.009636,-0.00358,-0.008801,0.0025975,-0.004902,0.0006875,-0.0034315,0.0012365,0.000493,-0.0144595,0.0091605
Target: Latvian
Distance: 3.1061% / 0.03106115
90.2 Balto-Slavic
9.8 Volga_Basin
After
Target: Latvian
Distance: 1.9265% / 0.01926547
56.6 Baltic_LTU_BA
40.0 Balto-Slavic
3.4 Volga_Basin
Oh yeah, seems like he is. It slightly improved his distanceQuote:
Originally Posted by ugochaves
https://i.ibb.co/M7qrsHb/IMG-2645.jpg
pic 56
Target: Polish:LM662072_scaled
Distance: 2.0247% / 0.02024717
37.6 Balto-Slavic:MA_Cedynia:VK212
28.4 Balto-Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
22.8 Balto-Slavic:Baltic_LTU_BA
8.4 Keltic_Central_Euro:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715
2.8 East_Med:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
But I still wonder about your wife … hmm
Target: DanjojoSIM
Distance: 0.8142% / 0.00814153
38.6 Balto-Slavic
26.0 Keltic_Central_Euro
24.8 Germanic
8.8 Old_Balkan
1.8 Turkic_Steppe
Why is it different for me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Katarzyna
https://i.ibb.co/F4FR2cy/ugo.jpg
I put us on ADC 0.5 to speed up the resultsQuote:
Originally Posted by ugochaves
A good calculator for Eastern Slavs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Katarzyna
https://i.ibb.co/WsQxH4d/767.jpg
Also good for western Slavs as we are almost the same just more Germanic :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ugochaves
Northern RussiansQuote:
Originally Posted by Katarzyna
Target: Russian_Pinezhsky
Distance: 1.7558% / 0.01755834
66.0 Volga_Basin
18.6 Balto-Slavic
9.2 Germanic
6.2 Baltic_LTU_BA
Target: Russian_Pinega
Distance: 1.8412% / 0.01841153
59.0 Volga_Basin
22.4 Balto-Slavic
12.2 Baltic_LTU_BA
5.0 Germanic
1.4 Turkic_Steppe
Target: Russian_Leshukonsky
Distance: 1.2503% / 0.01250301
82.8 Volga_Basin
11.4 Germanic
4.6 Balto-Slavic
1.2 Turkic_Steppe
Target: Russian_Krasnoborsky
Distance: 1.3561% / 0.01356138
44.2 Volga_Basin
39.8 Balto-Slavic
9.2 Germanic
2.6 Turkic_Steppe
2.4 Keltic_Central_Euro
1.8 Baltic_LTU_BA
Target: Russian_Kostroma
Distance: 1.2643% / 0.01264334
39.6 Balto-Slavic
37.8 Volga_Basin
10.0 Germanic
7.2 Baltic_LTU_BA
3.8 Old_Balkan
1.6 Turkic_Steppe
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.7082% / 0.01708225
41.8 Balto-Slavic
30.4 Keltic_Central_Euro
14.8 Old_Balkan
13.0 Germanic
Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
0.04874656 Keltic_Central_Euro:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715
0.05066426 Keltic_Central_Euro:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11712
0.05257082 Keltic_Central_Euro:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713
0.05274016 Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%
0.05580246 Germanic:ALH_1___AD_450___Coverage_94.81%
0.05732512 Balto-Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.05766377 Germanic:SZ13___AD_488___Coverage_70.31%
0.05817730 Germanic:CL146___AD_605___Coverage_71.88%
0.06065978 Balto-Slavic:MA_Cedynia:VK212
0.06301428 Keltic_Central_Euro:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG
0.06705989 Balto-Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
0.07097659 Balto-Slavic:MA_Lad:PCA0189
0.10701450 Old_Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839
0.14309388 Volga_Basin
0.17248754 East_Med:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
0.35122619 Turkic_Steppe:Kazakhstan_TurkicPossible_EIA:MMR001
Quote:
Originally Posted by ugochaves
Oh. That’s more than I expected but we are still slightly more
https://i.ibb.co/524yg6X/IMG-2647.jpg
Maybe Northern Russians are admixed with Finns that carry Germanic genes from Swedes?Quote:
Originally Posted by ugochaves
Northern Russians have a high Scandinavian haplogroup i1 up to 16% in some northern areas. At the same time, this haplogroup is low among the surrounding Finno-Ugrians. I don't know why some northern Russian calculators determine German autosomes. G25 hides the Germans in the Finns and gives the lowest percentage. MDLP27 gives much higher. The main Russians are very far from the northern Russians. I and all the central Russian - Germans do not have at all. I do not understand why we are one people with northern Russians. How did it happen? Compare Russian Voronezh and Pomors. This is further than the British from the southern Russians, I guess. But still, there is a genetic bridge between northern and southern Russians. And one mentality and self-consciousness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Katarzyna
The surrounding Finno-Ugric peoples do not have I1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abriekman
I will add: They have, but much less
They have more. It's 25%+ in Finland.Quote:
Originally Posted by ugochaves
https://i.imgur.com/dmJRZQX.png
I actually do not see any historically corresponding real population to these results among my to be assumed far back ancestry.Quote:
Originally Posted by CordedWhelp
Also, me getting 2.4% Volga basin - which btw. is the 12fold (!) amount of what I get Finnic in v2.4 - is not consistent with the results of my parents that together have just 1.0% of it:
Target: rothaer_father_scaled
Distance: 1.4407% / 0.01440667
48.4 Germanic
25.2 Balto-Slavic
17.6 Keltic_Central_Euro
7.6 East_Med
1.0 Volga_Basin
0.2 Turkic_Steppe
Target: rothaer_mother_scaled
Distance: 1.6465% / 0.01646497
46.0 Balto-Slavic
32.6 Germanic
19.0 Keltic_Central_Euro
2.4 Old_Balkan
I think it can time by time be mathematically extracted so a model fits but there will be a number of almost equally fitting models. Here are 5 children with rothaer_wife1(untested):
Target: rothaer_child1_scaled
Distance: 2.1434% / 0.02143376
42.2 Balto-Slavic
36.6 Germanic
17.4 Keltic_Central_Euro
2.2 Volga_Basin
1.6 East_Med
Target: rothaer_child2_scaled
Distance: 1.8161% / 0.01816087
38.6 Balto-Slavic
31.6 Keltic_Central_Euro
28.0 Germanic
1.8 East_Med
Target: rothaer_child3_scaled
Distance: 2.0472% / 0.02047185
36.4 Germanic
33.0 Balto-Slavic
25.6 Keltic_Central_Euro
5.0 Volga_Basin
Target: rothaer_child4_scaled
Distance: 1.4658% / 0.01465751
35.4 Balto-Slavic
32.8 Germanic
26.6 Keltic_Central_Euro
5.2 Volga_Basin
Target: rothaer_child5_scaled
Distance: 1.7073% / 0.01707302
35.4 Balto-Slavic
35.2 Germanic
24.8 Keltic_Central_Euro
2.6 Volga_Basin
2.0 East_Med
I think this component is not fitting for Central Europeans and it should be removed (or replaced with something resembling that Central Europeans do not score).
I know who it is. It's a pure Pole from Central Poland.Quote:
Originally Posted by ugochaves
I wonder whether Germanic is just mathematically triggered by high Volga Basin. Can you re-run without Volga Basin?Quote:
Originally Posted by ugochaves
Yep, and complete opposite to my Illustrative DNA results: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?374667-Czech-IllustrativeDNA-resultsQuote:
Originally Posted by Kiel
Sorry I know It's not for me but I was tempted to try it.
Target: Cpal_scaled
Distance: 2.3656% / 0.02365558
41.6 Germanic
27.2 Balto-Slavic
15.6 East_Med
15.2 Keltic_Central_Euro
0.4 Turkic_Steppe
Target: Cpal_scaled
Distance: 2.3656% / 0.02365558
27.2 Balto-Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
23.6 Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%
15.6 East_Med:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
15.2 Keltic_Central_Euro:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713
13.4 Germanic:CL146___AD_605___Coverage_71.88%
4.0 Germanic:SZ13___AD_488___Coverage_70.31%
0.6 Germanic:ALH_1___AD_450___Coverage_94.81%
0.4 Turkic_Steppe:Kazakhstan_TurkicPossible_EIA:MMR001
Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.7017% / 0.01701676
47.2 Balto-Slavic
30.0 Old_Balkan
12.6 Germanic
7.0 East_Med
3.2 Turkic_Steppe
Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.7017% / 0.01701676
30.0 Old_Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839
23.0 Balto-Slavic:MA_Cedynia:VK212
20.4 Balto-Slavic: DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
12.6 Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%
7.0 East_Med:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
3.8 Balto-Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
3.2 Turkic_Steppe:Kazakhstan_TurkicPossible_EIA:MMR001