Thank you, man. I'll try it soon. :thumb001:Quote:
Originally Posted by tk'es
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Thank you, man. I'll try it soon. :thumb001:Quote:
Originally Posted by tk'es
Genotek called me a Cigan i think in Russia its not politically incorrect in Serbia it is serbs dont like cigani and call them cigani but not officiallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Repent
Show me Eng / Rus version of your Genotek where they call you like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mortimer
What will be correct word in Russian, in your opinion?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mortimer
I have no idea im not offended just noticed the difference in serbia and russia i think in Russia gypsies call themselfes cigani and dont say its a racial slur i follow a russian gypsy pro putin Instagram and they say they are cigani its interestingQuote:
Originally Posted by Repent
I have also a few jewish groups but not ashkenazi
Got it. Thank you for the information.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mortimer
I am not able, thanks to sanctions, I can't pay for that service. Everything is unsupported for Russia. Even Alipay wants me to have Mainland China bank card or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by tk'es
Hi Repent, I just realized that I could be modeled as 3/4 Lviv Ukrainian and 1/4 Polish Ashkenazi, with relatively good distance.
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.6415% / 0.02641485
75.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
25.0 Ashkenazi_Poland
:lightbul:
Здраво, Душан, брате. How close we might be mathematically then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
Not very close, because Lviv Ukrainian already have some Balkan component, so it is more southern than Russian averages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Repent
You should buy G25 coordinates, if you want to try various calculators.
I have money to do that, but I do not have opportunity, because I have МИР bank card and not VISA / MasterCard, even Alipay wants me to have Chinese Mainland bank card to pay for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
Damn wars, man.
My LivingDNA results:
https://i.postimg.cc/FRkG2BHb/20251107-214301.jpg
Then again my bank card is not accepted by another foreign service.
My G25 coordinates simulated by genoplot.com based on my DNA Raw data file (from Genotek, converted to 23andMe V5 format):
Repent-K13-sim_scaled,0.1291,0.1172,0.0579,0.048,0.0351,0.016 ,0.0086,0.0096,-0.003,-0.0126,-0.0035,-0.0044,0.0095,0.0127,-0.0088,0.0041,0.0095,0.0036,0.0055,0.0053,0.0009,-0.0044,0.0047,-0.0009,-0.0004
Repent-K13-sim_unscaled,0.011342,0.011541,0.015353,0.014861,0 .011405,0.005737,0.003659,0.00416,-0.001467,-0.006914,-0.002155,-0.002936,0.00639,0.009228,-0.006484,0.003092,0.007286,0.002842,0.004376,0.004 238,0.000721,-0.003558,0.003813,-0.000747,-0.000334
I've gotten them for free, no money charged.Quote:
Originally Posted by Repent
This thread's coordinates (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ope+calculator) with my simulated coordinates:
Distance to: Repent-K13-sim_scaled
0.01669123 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.01837090 Slovakian
0.02353044 Slovenian
0.02381153 Croat_North
0.02458103 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.02535777 Czech
0.02610693 Polish_Silesian
0.02644739 Polish
0.02700766 Hungarian
0.02809475 Russian_Belgorod
0.02814895 Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.02887863 Russian_Voronezh_North
0.02900981 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.02999513 Polish_Wielkopolska
0.03037514 Cossack_Ukrainian_Zaporizhzhia
0.03056691 Ukrainian_Chernihiv
0.03094954 Russian_RyazanMikhailov
0.03104943 Russian_Samara
0.03128590 Cossack_Ukrainian_Dnipropetrovsk
0.03160059 Russian_Ryazan
0.03167968 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
0.03186741 Russian_Orel
0.03192278 Russian_Kursk
0.03217361 Ukrainian_Sumy
0.03235503 Russian_Voronezh
Interesting the “pull” toward the northern Balkans and Slovakia. I presume that the “southerness” of your Ashkenazi ancestry pulls you some toward east-central Europe…
Genotek didn't study all the ethnicities, like Rusyns. Still I won't deny that I might have an Ashkenazi grandmother from my father's side (+ my Ashkenazi sample fits with Belarusia or Central Ukraine, while Russian sample with Astrakhan region in Russia or Dagestan as top 2 variants), it's all messy kinda.Quote:
Originally Posted by Figaro
simulated k13 coordinates may differ significantly from the original ones
My example:
https://i.postimg.cc/MGJLbTNS/gfdgfdnvnc.png
I'm good with buying non-simulated, but there is no VISA / MASTER CARD in Russia right now. Thank you for example, btw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fistora
My Real G25 coordinates (a.k.a. non simulated from g25requests.app):
Repent:RealG25_scaled,0.135449,0.108662,0.059962,0 .041344,0.034776,0.015339,0.009635,0.014076,-0.004295,-0.019681,-0.005196,-0.009741,0.014866,0.020781,-0.014658,-0.004375,0.001434,0.00266,0.000126,-0.006003,-0.002121,0.004204,0.011709,0.001205,0.001796
Repent:RealG25_raw,0.0119,0.0107,0.0159,0.0128,0.0 113,0.0055,0.0041,0.0061,-0.0021,-0.0108,-0.0032,-0.0065,0.01,0.0151,-0.0108,-0.0033,0.0011,0.0021,0.0001,-0.0048,-0.0017,0.0034,0.0095,0.001,0.0015
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ze6...hKdN9BnU4/viewQuote:
Originally Posted by Repent
Distance to: RealG25_scaled
0.02726356 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.02801103 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.02993841 Russian_Belgorod
0.02994670 Russian_Voronezh_North
0.03073090 Russian_Orel
0.03091351 Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.03165011 Russian_RyazanMikhailov
0.03191037 Cossack_Ukrainian_Dnipropetrovsk
0.03212456 Russian_Ryazan
0.03213346 Ukrainian_Sumy
0.03265978 Russian_Samara
0.03277478 Ukrainian_Chernihiv
0.03346667 Cossack_Ukrainian_Zaporizhzhia
0.03347857 Russian_RyazanSpassk
0.03360595 Croat_North
0.03392058 Russian_Kursk
0.03395781 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
0.03404627 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.03434310 Polish
0.03448813 Russian_Voronezh
0.03744090 Russian_NizhnyNovgorod
0.03762457 Russian_Moscow
0.03774779 Russian_TverKashin
0.03779697 Polish_Silesian
0.03786094 Hungarian
Target: RealG25_scaled
Distance: 1.6608% / 0.01660765 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.8 Russian_Belgorod
17.8 Pomak_Danubian_Plain
13.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
11.4 Moksha
2.0 She
Target: RealG25_scaled
Distance: 1.6829% / 0.01682902 | R3P
79.2 Russian_Belgorod
18.2 Turkish_West_Macedonia
2.6 She
Thank you, I've already tried that before today, I didn't post it yet / at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
Raw coordinates are even closer to Zakarapattia, Lviv, etc.
Sad times, I am already drinking, thank God that we have God, though.
What's the distance between us will be, though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
Not very close.Quote:
Originally Posted by Repent
Distance to: RealG25_scaled
0.02726356 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.02801103 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.02993841 Russian_Belgorod
0.02994670 Russian_Voronezh_North
0.03073090 Russian_Orel
0.03091351 Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.03165011 Russian_RyazanMikhailov
0.03191037 Cossack_Ukrainian_Dnipropetrovsk
0.03212456 Russian_Ryazan
0.03213346 Ukrainian_Sumy
0.03265978 Russian_Samara
0.03277478 Ukrainian_Chernihiv
0.03346667 Cossack_Ukrainian_Zaporizhzhia
0.03347857 Russian_RyazanSpassk
0.03360595 Croat_North
0.03392058 Russian_Kursk
0.03395781 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
0.03404627 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.03434310 Polish
0.03448813 Russian_Voronezh
0.03744090 Russian_NizhnyNovgorod
0.03762457 Russian_Moscow
0.03774779 Russian_TverKashin
0.03779697 Polish_Silesian
0.03786094 Hungarian
0.03827594 Slovakian
0.03831832 Russian_Tver
0.03853245 Russian_Smolensk
0.03885847 Slovenian
0.03892394 Polish_Wielkopolska
0.03895634 Czech
0.03943636 Russian_Vladimir
0.04034685 Russian_Kaluga
0.04186630 Belarusian
0.04215176 Moksha
0.04378304 Sorb_Niederlausitz
0.04423278 Polish_Kashubian
0.04558518 Russian_Yaroslavl
0.04560162 Croat_Dalmatia
0.04623795 Cossack_Kuban
0.04636211 Bosnian
0.04644353 Croat
0.04686629 Moldovan
0.04718705 Bosniak_Croatia
0.04756563 Russian_Novgorod
0.04771268 Russian_Kostroma
0.04797476 German_Saxony_Leipzig
0.04840983 Croat_Herzegovina
0.04860061 Erzya
0.04864868 Lithuanian_PA
0.04933575 Croat_Bosnia
0.04948387 Russian_Pskov
0.04961662 Serb_Bosnia
0.05050378 German_East
0.05062504 Dušan_scaled
0.05179091 Austrian
0.05313711 Lithuanian_VA
0.05325376 German_Hamburg
0.05380937 German_Erlangen
0.05481134 Serb_Sumadija
0.05528254 Serb_Belgrade
0.05537510 Serb_Croatia
0.05592433 Serb
0.05653532 Serb_WestSerbia
0.05671237 German_Mecklenburg
0.05747588 Estonian
0.05749383 Finnish_Southwest
0.05753601 Lithuanian_RA
0.05770829 Russian_Arkhangelsk_Krasnoborsky
0.05787104 Ingrian
0.05826605 Montenegrin
0.05890670 German
0.05918730 Lithuanian
0.05957648 Lithuanian_VZ
0.05958190 Swedish
0.05986785 Serb_SouthSerbia
0.06338505 Finnish_Central
0.06399182 Serb_Montenegro
0.06428053 Finnish_Southeast
0.06433364 Romanian
0.06604684 Lithuanian_SZ
0.06702459 Karelian_Southern
0.06727182 Lithuanian_PZ
0.06737212 Afrikaner
0.06782849 Danish
0.06794841 Russian_Karelia_Zaoneje
0.06813410 Bosniak_Sandzak
0.06814011 German_Baden-Wurttemberg_Ellwangen
0.06844513 French_Seine-Maritime
0.06850176 Latvian
0.06858177 Dutch
0.06868305 Norwegian_Bergen
0.06881406 Vepsian
0.06883017 Karelian
0.06940757 Pomak_Rhodope_Mountains
0.06960962 Norwegian
0.07028303 Karelian_Northern
0.07080348 Frisian_Netherlands
0.07085603 Finnish_North
0.07086234 BelgianA
But 2-way models are interesting, if use each other coordinates as fixed references.
I can be modeled very well using your coordinates:
0.024 Dušan_scaled = 92% Serb_Croatia + 8% RealG25_scaled
0.024 Dušan_scaled = 91% Serb_Bosnia + 9% RealG25_scaled
0.025 Dušan_scaled = 94% Serb_WestSerbia + 6% RealG25_scaled
0.027 Dušan_scaled = 91% Serb_Sumadija + 9% RealG25_scaled
0.027 Dušan_scaled = 89% Serb + 11% RealG25_scaled
0.027 Dušan_scaled = 100% Moldovan + 0% RealG25_scaled
0.028 Dušan_scaled = 90% Serb_Belgrade + 10% RealG25_scaled
0.028 Dušan_scaled = 91% Bosnian + 9% RealG25_scaled
But in opposite case, not very good:
0.044 RealG25_scaled = 85% Dušan_scaled + 15% Dobrujan_Tatar
0.045 RealG25_scaled = 95% Dušan_scaled + 5% Han_Shanghai
0.045 RealG25_scaled = 75% Dušan_scaled + 25% Tatar_Mishar
0.046 RealG25_scaled = 83% Dušan_scaled + 17% Tatar_Lipka
0.046 RealG25_scaled = 95% Dušan_scaled + 5% Han_Henan
0.046 RealG25_scaled = 95% Dušan_scaled + 5% She
0.046 RealG25_scaled = 95% Dušan_scaled + 5% Han_Zhejiang
0.046 RealG25_scaled = 95% Dušan_scaled + 5% Han_Shanxi
This is your 2-way models without fixed references.
A bit strange you cant get lower distance, below 0.03
0.040 RealG25_scaled = 62% Russian_TverKashin + 38% Greek_Crete_Chania
0.040 RealG25_scaled = 74% Serb_Sumadija + 26% Tatar_Mishar
0.040 RealG25_scaled = 62% Russian_Tver + 38% Greek_Crete_Chania
0.040 RealG25_scaled = 66% Russian_Orel + 34% Greek_Crete_Chania
0.041 RealG25_scaled = 95% Serb_Sumadija + 5% Han_Shanghai
0.041 RealG25_scaled = 67% Russian_Belgorod + 33% Greek_Crete_Chania
0.041 RealG25_scaled = 82% Serb_Sumadija + 18% Tatar_Lipka
0.041 RealG25_scaled = 58% Russian_Novgorod + 42% Greek_Crete_Chania
0.041 RealG25_scaled = 59% Russian_Kostroma + 41% Greek_Crete_Chania
0.041 RealG25_scaled = 74% Serb_WestSerbia + 26% Tatar_Mishar
With Scaled no, with Raw (when I use Raw + Average Modern for Raw) I can. I do not know why, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
Do not forget that I am mixed, for 1/4, but still. It can be the reason.
The strangest thing that I didn't get Ashkenazi with them, I did get Ashkenazi in some gedmatch.com models before having my real G25 coordinates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
Maybe its not ashkenazi but tatar or something else which pulls you a little away from full ethnic russians?
Nah, if it was Tatar, prolly the closest distance won't be Western Ukraine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mortimer
Maybe its greek?Quote:
Originally Posted by Repent
Vandor is greek and vlach too
Nah, it can't be. It is Jewish, just weird that not so much models are showing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mortimer
If I remember this correctly that's not some fresh news to me, but HarappaWorld gives Ashkenazi Jewish in the mixed mode, most likely that makes perfect sense (why Harrapa is doing it, while some other's not):
https://i.postimg.cc/vZ3cpZtP/20251120-033126.jpg
I've tried a lot of different coordinates here (all modern and hopefully all scaled):
https://allelocator.ovh/Oracle2way.php
Result of top mixes are in the spoiler:
Spoiler!
I had plenty of Jewish coordinates in the mix, but as you can see it doesn't mix it in the top results.
Interesting results. Maybe because of some East Eurasian ancestry you get Turkish instead of Jewish due to interpretation of East Asian+West Asian DNA combo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Repent
Your Askhenazi part might have some Turkic signals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Repent
Strange, though, since, I've uploaded Ashkenazi and other Jewish coordinates in the same mix.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opie
Interesting. As other have notived, I think you may have little East Eurasian admixture in your genome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Repent
As you can see here I get some Greek on this post (Mostly Turkish, though), instead of Jewish: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post8311178Quote:
Originally Posted by Mortimer
Maybe I should do a more than 2 ethnicities calculation like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulkster