Eurogenes K13

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...psfc4b00b9.jpg

mom

http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/u...euroK13mom.jpg

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Originally Posted by Pallantides

Feel free to post your Eurogenes K=13 results from Gedmatch, so we can compare results.


Mine:
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/a...ntides/k13.png

64.48% North European
23.92% Mediterranean
6.36% Caucasus
1.59% West Central Asian
1.35% North Eurasian
0.93% East Siberian
0.86% East Asian
0.24% West African
0.17% Pygmy
0.07% Northeast African
0.00% South Asian
0.00% Southwest Asian
0.00% Amerindian

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where can I find these results?

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Originally Posted by Solin

Whats with all that African, southwest Asian and Indian?

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I did not realize that it is elevated in non-Northern Europeans too on this calculator. It is probably due to this specific algorithm (noise and model). Perhaps.

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Originally Posted by Karl

where can I find these results?

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Create Account
http://ww2.gedmatch.com:8006/autosomal/m-upload1.php
Select Eurogenes, Admix Proportions, Eurogenes K13
http://ww2.gedmatch.com:8006/autosomal/ap_mix1_gen.php

Med works perfectly.

It goes Britain - West Norway - East Norway - Sweden. :)

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Originally Posted by Graham

Create Account
http://ww2.gedmatch.com:8006/autosomal/m-upload1.php
Select Eurogenes, Admix Proportions, Eurogenes K13
http://ww2.gedmatch.com:8006/autosomal/ap_mix1_gen.php

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When Karl sees his high Baltic and Eastern European instead of Finnish score he will have a heart attack.

Well he don't have to see it if he just does K=13:p

I want to see his results.:)

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Originally Posted by Solin

When Karl sees his high Baltic and Eastern European instead of Finnish score he will have a heart attack.

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I'm guessing he hasn't looked, at his Ancestry Composition yet. :D

http://imageshack.us/a/img201/3271/fairprincess14.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img201/3271/fairprincess14.png

^ Your proportions look similar to mine.

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Originally Posted by mark

^ Your proportions look similar to mine.

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Are they really?! What's your ethnicity?!

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Originally Posted by FairyPrincess

Are they really?! What's your ethnicity?!

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Mostly Ashkenazi. But 23andMe puts me at 99.9% European.
I posted my image on the first page of the thread.

U mt-dna seems to correspond with a higher Caucasus result.

annihilus
Asia: 52.83%
Europe: 46.24%
Africa: 0.85%
America: 0.08%

annihilus mom
Asia: 69.02%
Europe: 29.53%
Africa: 1.46%
America: -

Su
Asia: 62.18%
Europe: 35.04%
Africa: 1.97%
America: 0.81%

mark
Asia: 42.16%
Europe: 55.31%
Africa: 2.53%
America: -

Bastarnae
Asia: 44.43%
Europe: 55.22%
Africa: 0.35%
America: -

orangepulp
Asia: 69.82%
Europe: 29.15%
Africa: 0.98%
America: -

orangepulp aunt
Asia: 72.88%
Europe: 25.98%
Africa: 0.48%
America: 0.65%

Casual Observer
Asia: 70.36%
Europe: 28.45%
Africa: 1.19%
America: -

FairyPrincess
Asia: 39.40%
Europe: 57.30%
Africa: 3.13%
America: 0.16%

Vesuvian Sky
Asia: 33.08%
Europe: 65.31%
Africa: .95%
America: 0.63%

Population
North European 68.88%
West African -
Mediterranean 15.81%
Northeast African 0.42%
North Eurasian 1.74%
South Asian 1.34%
Southwest Asian 2.10%
Pygmy 0.06%
Caucasus 6.25%
East Siberian 1.38%
East Asian 0.76%
Amerindian 0.34%
West Central Asian 0.91%




I don't understand one thing, how can my South Asian and Southwest Asian scores be so high.

Karl wins.

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Originally Posted by Graham

North European

68.88% Karl
64.48% Pallantides
62.29% Evon
60.73% Jockman
60.30% Evon Paternal Aunt
60.21% Jockman Grandad
60.15% Evon Maternal Grandmother

59.76% Evon Maternal Uncle
58.77% Graham
57.27% Jackson Paternal Grandad
56.73% Robert
56.71% Jackson Paternal Grandmother
56.58% Jackson Father
56.35% Allenson
55.15% Jackson Aunt (Mothers's Sister)
54.42% Jackson
53.21% Jackson Mother

48.95% tschort
39.31% Plastictuga
26.34% FairyPrincess

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Fixed :p

This is not surprising considering that Finnic people predate Indo-europeans in Northern-Europe and resemble the original UP inhabitants the most and I'm Finnic.

Damn you Karl stealing my throne:p

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well at least I don't have any SWA:D

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Originally Posted by Karl

This is not surprising considering that Finnic people predate Indo-europeans in Northern-Europe and resemble the original UP inhabitants the most and I'm Finnic.

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So do you look like her?
http://i.imgur.com/6ikEZ.jpg

To be fair. Lithuanians score the highest, North Euro, from what I can remember. Thought you'd be top. :P

Now you can boast of being top North Euro Man.

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Originally Posted by Pallantides

Damn you Karl stealing my throne:p

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Being Finnic > being Scandinavian :p

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So do you look like her?
http://i.imgur.com/6ikEZ.jpg

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Looks like my grandmother.

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Originally Posted by Graham

To be fair. Lithuanians score the highest, North Euro, from what I can remember. Thought you'd be top. :P

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Finns also score very high from what I remember, in the upper 70% range.

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Originally Posted by Graham

To be fair. Lithuanians score the highest, North Euro, from what I can remember. Thought you'd be top. :P

Now you can boast of being top North Euro Man.

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I have never been that fascinated in this genetics stuff. According to 23andme, Estonians are Eastern-Europeans and thus by 23andme's own calculators/results, I'm a "Finn" as Estonians aren't Slavic nor Baltic, but Finnic.

And Lithuanians scoring high is probably explained by this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Neolithic.gif

21.99 %
http://i.imgur.com/EoYxFMn.jpg

All agree those who don't have North-Eurasian are sub-human? :cool:

:p:D

@ Annihilus:

How did you obtain these results and what does Asia mean here?

Never mind I got it, you added the components but shouldn't East Asian components be seperated from Caucasoid Asian components?

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Originally Posted by Solin

I did not realize that it is elevated in non-Northern Europeans too on this calculator. It is probably due to this specific algorithm (noise and model). Perhaps.

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Most of the African ones below 1% would be noise, but the Asian values are usually true, and South American ect values are old Eurasian components.

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Originally Posted by Robert

U mt-dna seems to correspond with a higher Caucasus result.

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This is not true, look at my results we (except my aunt) are all U. Also my mtDNA line followed the Ice north from North Africa into Scandinavia, not via Caucasus, as is evident of me finding everything from Berber to Finnish matches..

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Originally Posted by Karl

I don't understand one thing, how can my South Asian and Southwest Asian scores be so high.

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South Asia could be Roma ancestry, South west Asia = Middle east ect could also be related to that or to the neolithic connection, same as med ect.. My granny has confirmed Roma ancestry and she has about 1.63% South Asian and 2% SWA...

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Originally Posted by Karl

I don't understand one thing, how can my South Asian and Southwest Asian scores be so high.

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In Europeans, probably signals of the neolithization period.

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Originally Posted by Allenson

In Europeans, probably signals of the neolithization period.

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Seems most likely. In Dodecad, Dienekes 'Red Sea' component was slightly higher in east and north-east Europe than the rest of northern Europe (although only slightly). It's also possible it's due to an ancient connection or perhaps from a eastern or north-eastern contribution to the SW Asian genepool (No idea how likely that is though lol).

Although there also seems to be more noise in this one - My mother and aunt get no SW Asian in almost all other calculators, but get a small amount in this - So it may just be noise unless it's consistent across all calculators.

My K13:

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g326/dok101/k13.jpg

Yes it is pure geographical and I think, why not:)

http://imageshack.us/a/img600/8665/k131.png

Had a look back

K13
North European - Lithuania
West African - Nigeria
Mediterranean - Sardinia
Northeast African - Ethiopia Oromo
North Eurasian - Central Siberia
South Asian - South India
Southwest Asian - Bedouin
Pygmy - Mbuti Pygmy
Caucasus - Georgia
East Siberian - Koryaks
East Asian - Eastern China
Amerindian - South America
West Central Asian - Balochistan

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Originally Posted by Vesuvian Sky

http://imageshack.us/a/img600/8665/k131.png

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Your results are interesting because you have a lot more Northern European than I expect that even other southern Italians from other regions would get, and surprisingly less Caucasus.

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Originally Posted by Su

About the project ( K13 populations ):

http://ww2.gedmatch.com:8006/autosomal/images/K13.jpg

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Originally Posted by Sikeliot

Your results are interesting because you have a lot more Northern European than I expect that even other southern Italians from other regions would get, and surprisingly less Caucasus.

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It may be because I have Celto-Germanic ancestors in my pedigree but according to McDonald's BGA its only a 2% possibility that any of my DNA is derived from my Irish, or German Dunkard ancestors.

93% of me is apparenlty Italian according to Doug and FTDNA said 100% with a 0.01% margin of error. My primary components on MDLP-22 are very compatible with Greeks and I get the same E. European population sets as a secondary component along with some Greeks.

North European

68.88% Karl
64.48% Pallantides
62.29% Evon
60.73% Jockman
60.30% Evon Paternal Aunt
60.21% Jockman Grandad
60.15% Evon Maternal Grandmother

59.76% Evon Maternal Uncle
58.77% Graham
57.27% Jackson Paternal Grandad
56.73% Robert
56.71% Jackson Paternal Grandmother
56.58% Jackson Father
56.35% Allenson
55.15% Jackson Aunt (Mothers's Sister)
54.42% Jackson
53.81% Oneeye
53.21% Jackson Mother
52.63% Barreldriver

48.95% tschort
42.73% Thraex
39.79% Alex Delarge
39.31% Plastictuga
37.97% Vojnik
35.12% Alpine Celt
33.19% iNird
32.80% Raine
29.84% Vesuvian Sky
26.34% FairyPrincess
21.99% Mark

Med
39.44% Plastictuga
37.92% Alex Delarge
35.47% Vesuvian Sky
34.30% Alpine Celt
33.32% Mark
32.53% iNird
32.13% Raine
31.11% Barreldriver
30.96% FairyPrincess
30.39% Vojnik
30.33% Jackson Paternal Grandmother
30.13% Jackson Father
30.01% Allenson

29.78% Graham
29.68% Jackson Aunt (Mothers's Sister)
28.84% Jackson
28.83% Oneeye
28.62% Jackson Paternal Grandad
28.03% Jackson Mother
27.06% Robert
27.03% Thraex
26.51% Evon Paternal Aunt
26.47% Evon Maternal Uncle
26.13% Evon

25.57% Evon Maternal Grandmother
23.92% Pallantides
21.97% Jockman
20.60% Jockman Grandad
15.81% Karl

European(Med + Nor Euro)

88.55% Graham
88.42% Evon
88.40% Pallantides
87.04% Jackson Paternal Grandmother
86.71% Jackson Father
86.81% Evon Paternal Aunt
86.36% Allenson
86.23% Evon Maternal Uncle
85.72% Evon Maternal Grandmother
85.59% Jackson Paternal Grandfather
84.43% Jackson Aunt (Mothers's Sister)
84.69% Karl
83.79% Robert
83.74% Barreldriver
83.26% Jackson
82.70% Jockman
82.64% Oneeye
81.24% Jackson Mother
80.81% Jockman Grandfather
78.75% Plastictuga
77.71% Alex DeLarge

69.76% Thraex
69.42% Alpine Celt
68.36% Vojnik
65.72% iNird
65.31% Vesuvian Sky
64.93% Raine
57.30% FairyPrincess
55.31% Mark

Brits and Scandos the most European, somewhat controversial. :P

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Originally Posted by Vesuvian Sky

93% of me is apparenlty Italian according to Doug and FTDNA said 100% with a 0.01% margin of error. My secondary components on MDLP-22 are very compatible with Greeks and I get the same E. European population sets as a secondary component along with some Greeks.

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So that might (if we take the assumption that Ionian Greeks were descended form a wave of migration from the north) that you have some Ionian Greek ancestry. Or it could always have another source.

I hope Sicilianu101 posts his results in here, I'd like to see how you two compare.