you're forgetting about the arvanites of greece they could have caused this diversity
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Its clear from the maps that E-V13 din't spread from the coast from Greeks. Such an inland nucleus scraps that theory.
How is it clear, give an argument not an assertion?
And E-V13 spread both by coast and by land. By land it went Peloponnese -> Thessaly - (reduction in age and diversity) -> Macedonia - (reduction in age and diversity) -> Serbia -> so on
From the coasts it spread to Aegean Islands, Cyprus, Black Sea area, city states in Montenegro and Albania. From which it spread by land, not super far. Western Kosovo is a couple day trips by foot from the Albanian or Montenegrin seaside. Not to mention river valleys leading through eastern Kosovo from Macedonia.
Your making huge leaps here like if someone didn't know anything about history or anthropology. You will run into millions of wrong conclusions if going on Genetics alone. City dwellers didn't move inland they had no business to they were a world apart. And I'm not talking about Cyprus I don't give a rats ass about them. I'm talking about E-V13 in Albanians and Serbs.
The only way I can see E-V13 being from Peloponnese and having such a major paternal influence in our area is if carriers of that maker came from the Peloponnese to Dardania in Roman times, where pastoralized (became Vlachs) when the Slavs came and in turn founding clans with many descendants mostly Albanianised but also later eventually Slavicised in Serb areas. The odds are stacked against this theory as well though.
This is a blind assertion. Coon is far far far far x 100 a worse source to draw this conclusion than unbiased genetic results that can see back in time thousands of years.
Let me ask you, where do you think you got the Plis? This hat is not an Illyrian one.
Just let me ask you this, why do Albanians have newer clades and less diverse clades of E-V13. Better yet, from where do you think E-V13 entered Europe and became that of the Illyrians, give me your theory, instead of trying to throw sand because you don't like mine*Quote:
The only way I can see E-V13 being from Peloponnese and having such a major paternal influence in our area is if carriers of that maker came from the Peloponnese to Dardania in Roman times, where pastoralized (became Vlachs) when the Slavs came and in turn founding clans with many descendants mostly Albanianised but also later eventually Slavicised in Serb areas. The odds are stacked against this theory as well though.
*This is Dienekes as well. I started this thread without knowledge of him (you introduced him) but I had arrived at same conclusion, sea faring people, I was going to suggest Greeks as being the most likely of such people.
You don't know that for sure. Ancient samples can give us a good clue as to what happened in the past. This has already begun with the genomes of ancient pre-historic individuals such as La Brana and Ma'lta being tested. Most likely E-V13 expanded out of Greece or the Southern Balkans first though in that area of the world because it would have entered via Anatolia most likely.