Pontic Greek Gedmatch results

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Originally Posted by Est.1992

Lol, hypothetical 70% wog and 30% Slavic group won't end up looking looking Slavic, that's for sure xD
Slavic admixture in mainland Greeks is similar to white admixture in Aframs, don't worry, they don't look Anglo.

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Modern Greeks are about 70% Mycanaean like plus 30% other

I doubt that the rest 30% is all from Slavs who came to the Balkans in the Middle Ages

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Slavic admixture in mainland Greeks is similar to white admixture in Aframs, don't worry, they don't look Anglo

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Originally Posted by Hahns

Nope

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Yes

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Originally Posted by Peterski

This is Spartan admixture in Winged Hussars.

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Spartans had nothing to do with Poles

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Originally Posted by Dorian

Funny thing is just yesterday I sorted ydna(+mt) of my matches ,browsed them one by one..wondered If there's some tool but didn't bother to search.
Anyways out of almost 1400 matches only around -/+ 10% were relevant to use for both (Greek side from mixed people included)...

N=130
E-v13 23,8%
I2 15,38%
R1b 13,85%
J2 3,84%
J2a 10%
R1a 7,69%
Other E-clades 5,38%
J2b 5,38%
G 4,61%
Ι1 3,84%
J1 2,30%
T 2,30%
L-L595 0,79%
N-M178 0,79%

I could break them apart to subclades but I guess it's meaningless for such size.

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Here is result with naive filter and allowing some other E clades (not just E-V13) and rarer clades in table (filter = only surnames ending with 's', not perfect but if you have a suggestion for a good one let me know):

https://imgur.com/mRXjbEw.png

I made it just earlier today, so even if you searched you could not find it before!

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Originally Posted by AncientGreek

Haplogroups among my matches:

https://imgur.com/x7kG7ly.png

E-V13 certainly not dominant in the Dodecanese. And nearly all those E-V13 among my matches are mainlanders, only a very small number of them are 100% islanders. :coffee:

If you have 23andme, you can check distribution of match YDNA here: https://archaichellene.github.io/AncientGreek/ (Not tested much so no guarantee it works for you.)

Of course, it's not perfect, as there are some non-Greek matches or half/quarter/part Greek matches that have some different haplogroups.

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I don't know about dodecanese in particular but 20% of Greek islanders carry ev13

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/europ...logroups.shtml

Which is not a big difference from peloponnese 27%, sobi suspect that it's more like dodecanese is an outlier in the particular case. Still there's no historical event that could increase ev13 in the mainland, it doesn't sound strange to have always been dominant in central and parts of northern Greece (like thessaly) in particular

@Ancient Greek

Turce beliyorum?

Greeks are 70% Mycenaean like and 30% Slavic. I agree with this. Feiichy is right

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Originally Posted by SuperDorian

Yes

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Slavs exist even today in modern Greek state, even hellenized Albanians aka Arvanites today

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Originally Posted by AncientGreek

Here is result with naive filter and allowing some other E clades (not just E-V13) and rarer clades in table (filter = only surnames ending with 's', not perfect but if you have a suggestion for a good one let me know):


I made it just earlier today, so even if you searched you could not find it before!

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Not really familiar with program things but If possible ,make it target those whose paternal grandfather part has Greece I guess?

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Originally Posted by brennus dux gallorum

I don't know about dodecanese in particular but 20% of Greek islanders carry ev13

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/europ...logroups.shtml

Which is not a big difference from peloponnese 27%, sobi suspect that it's more like dodecanese is an outlier in the particular case. Still there's no historical event that could increase ev13 in the mainland, it doesn't sound strange to have always been dominant in central and parts of northern Greece (like thessaly) in particular

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Do you know what source this eupedia website is using? For all I know, it is basing E-V13 of Aegean islands that were repopulated with mainlanders. :icon_rolleyes: