Alabamaman, could you run my results and post the chart? Thanks in advance.
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Alabamaman, could you run my results and post the chart? Thanks in advance.
How did you do that chart? Can you make one for me? CA21?
Ask and you shall receive. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Apotheosis
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...1EU7bChart.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...n/RS1NEU6g.jpg
If I would have known "RS" stood for Serbia, I would have added another group to my calculator when designing it, but alas, I did not. :(
I put together a spreadsheet that works as a RMSD calculator for the EU7b and NEU6g runs. Give me about 15 minutes and I'll post your charts.Quote:
Originally Posted by AcadianDriftwood
Here are your charts, Acadian:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...n/CA21EU7b.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k.../CA21NEU6g.jpg
The NEU6g run looks to be more accurate for you.
That run does not look more accurate for me, especially this:Quote:
Originally Posted by AlabamaMan
North + Central European 38.7%
South + West European 40.75%
Totally out of whack with my ancestry, the latter run describes it much better.
I'm curious for any of the Aprician UK citizens here which run NEU6g or NEU7b was more accurate?
It had already been stated by Alabama that the NEU6g run seems to be more accurate for Scandinavians and those of Scandinavian descent as is seen with Pallantides and perhaps AcadianDriftwood maybe as she's half Faroer if I'm not mistaken.
I can only go off my results as someone with majority ancestry being from the UK that the NEU7b run was more accurate, but I'm not sure if that goes others with ancestry predominantly from or exclusively from the UK.
Ran the NEU6g, changed a bit. The Irish is closer, norwegian further now. With Dutch in third place.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/att...1&d=1310411704
I'm almost finished with a calculator for the NEU5e run. I'm running some tests right now. I think making these charts for each run helps to see which runs are accurate and which are not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
Here is your chart for the NEU5e run, Loki:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k.../LokiNEU5e.jpg
Your results seem to get distorted when the South/Western Euro cluster is not broken down further.
I agree, on the NEU6 chart I am just as similar to Spain as I am to Hungary which is bit farfetched since both countries are pretty far away from each others and I have no Spanish ancestry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
However on the other chart Eu7b it shows I am similar to Romania and Hungary. I think is correct considering the geographic closeness of both countries to my region.
It's interesting how I am similar to Hungarians and Romanians considering the linguistic differences between three groups (Slavic, Romance and Ugrian). I think it's just more evidence that the Balkan sprachbund goes beyond language.
Similar to Loki's situation, your results for the NEU6g run are distorted since Western and Southern Euro components are combined. Since you are from the Balkans and show a high affinity to Southern Europeans you are lumped together with the Spanish since nothing is seperating Southwestern Europe from Southeastern Europe on that run.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apotheosis
If you aren't virtually all Northern Euro on that run, it isn't going to be accurate for you.
Which run would you say was more accurate for yourself? NEU7b or NEU6g?Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Does anyone have population distances or a chart with the overall distances between an ethnicity and all the others?
Any particular ethnicity you would like to see compared to the others?Quote:
Originally Posted by cmariexo
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlabamaMan
Irish
French
Spanish
Portuguese
North Italian
South Italian
Greek
Finnish
Whew....alright. :lol: Give me about thirty minutes or so and I'll have them posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmariexo
:lol: Sorry for making you do all of that work. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by AlabamaMan
Here they are, cmariexo:
Spain:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...an/ESChart.jpg
Finland:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...an/FIChart.jpg
France:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...an/FRChart.jpg
Greece:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...an/GRChart.jpg
Ireland:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...an/IEChart.jpg
Northern Italy:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...ItalyChart.jpg
Portugal:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...an/PTChart.jpg
Southern Italy:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...alianChart.jpg
I somehow skipped Spain. I will add them in a minute.
EDIT: Ok. Spain is at the top now.
Thank you so much, I owe you!
Here are you charts, Osweo:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...n/UK20EU7b.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k.../UK20NEU6g.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k.../UK20NEU5e.jpg
The reason you seem so distant to the other Brits and Micks is because your results are so British, it makes other Northwestern Europeans seem distant in comparison. Your score of 100% North Atlantic on the NEU5e run says it all.
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Originally Posted by Frederick
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_L...-pink-suit.jpg
It's 0.8% and it's mostly berberid. While you greeks have 11% arabic and 28% levantine :Quote:
Originally Posted by Chimo Bayo
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?...CPGxtqQM#gid=0
West Asian is Caucasus more like Armenia or Georgia.
I'm working on a calculator for the Neolithic Belt run Polako did. Then will be able to compare Greeks, Italians, the French, and Iberians to populations ranging from Assyrians, Armenians, and Turks, to Moroccoans, Ethiopians, the Hausa, Mandenka, Igbos, and some South Asians.
It's going to take some time because that run was massive, but I will eventually finish it.
DUN DUN DUN......!!!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iberia
Spaniards wanna try, Spaniards wanna lie
Then Spaniards wonder why, Spaniards wanna die
All I know is Spain, All I feel is rain
How can I maintain, with mad shit on my brain...
Well, but Caucasus people are ethnically and genetically very close with Levantines and Anatolians. They cluster together on plots, on tables of clusters, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmariexo
Looking forward to it. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlabamaMan
AlabamaMan, before you get worn out could you make one of these charts for me? I'm US2.
:)
Sure thing, man. I'm off today, and don't have much to do other than work on the spreadsheets as a hobby, so it's not a problem at all. I enjoy seeing people's results as much as they do probably.Quote:
Originally Posted by Electronic God-Man
Here you go:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...an/US2EU7b.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...n/US2NEU6g.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...n/US2NEU5e.jpg
Hmmm....let's see here...If I had to guess I would say you're....Celto-Germanic leaning more towards Germanic?
Here is the calculator for the NEU5e run. Same as the other two. Use OpenOffice, place your values in the designated cells and get a chart along with the numerical distances.
I'm Nordic in this run.
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...NEU5eChart.jpg
Well, yes. About 50% English, 20-25% Southwestern German/Swiss-German, 12.5% Irish, 12.5% Lithuanian.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlabamaMan
These charts are pretty amazing. I wonder why on the EU7b chart I have a closer affinity to Germany than the UK. NEU6 has me closest to the Netherlands (even Denmark is closer on that one than UK). Perhaps NEU5e is closest just based on the fact that I come in closest to the UK on that one.
...could it be the Lithuanian skewing it?
Yes, your S.E. Baltic score of 10.97% compared to the British average of 2.60% is probably what is putting you with ze Germans. It is hard to be certain if your Lithuanian ancestry is responsible for your S.E. Baltic score being higher than the US average of 6.23% since you have German ancestry and they average 15.73%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Electronic God-Man
However, since your German ancestry is from the Southwest and not the North or East, it very well could be due to the Lithuanian ancestry.
NEU5e again not as accurate as EU7b for me as it places Ireland as first instead of the UK.
1. Ireland 9.34
2. UK 12.55
3. France 15.92
4. Germany 16.62
5. Netherlands 17.79
The NEU5e run is the makes the least sense of the three in the context of my genealogy, as for now EU7b will be my primary reference for other family members of mine own who are interested in genealogy since the EU7b results match the pedigree to a letter.
I finished the spreadsheet for the Neolithic Belt run and will upload it tomorrow night. I made a chart for Transhumanist and the average Assyrian to see what the results were, and here they are:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...cBeltChart.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...cBeltChart.jpg
It seems your results were more similar to the Armenian samples than to your fellow Assyrians' results. No surprise that Caucasian and Mesopotamian populations are your closest groups.
You do have some Armenian ancestry, though, correct?
Thanks very much, mate. I sincerely appreciate all the hard work.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlabamaMan
Actually, despite my ~6% Armenian ancestry, I am ordinarily the least Armenian of the Assyrian lot. :) But, yeah, it is difficult to distinguish between Armenians and Assyrians in some of these analyses. Dienekes even made it a special project of his a few months back. :thumb001:
Cheers mate. Why am I so close to the Irish but quite distant from the Spanish? Also, what does this make me? A typical Celto-Germanic Englishman?Quote:
Originally Posted by AlabamaMan
Here are the individual results for the Assyrians, sorted in descending order by the "Middle East" component. I think I know why Armenians (and other populations?) are closer to me than the Assyrian population. There are Eastern (me) and Western Assyrians. You can spot the Western Assyrians in this run by the "North African" component. Only two of the Eastern Assyrians have a bit. While all three of the Western Assyrians have a bit of the "North African" component. This is perfectly reasonable, as the Western Assyrians are geographically closer to the Levant.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlabamaMan
Assyrians sorted in descending order by "Middle East," with my scores in red bold, based on values from the Neolithic Belt and surrounds:
In this run, I registered more of the "Middle East" than the average Yemeni! Polako did a good job isolating, it would appear, a non-Afro "Middle East" component. At the very least, a reduced Afro "Middle East" component. As I mentioned to Polako at the time, it is not that I have anything against African components, but, our (Assyrian) relative lack of African admixture ordinarily leads to less of the "Middle East" or comparable component in ADMIXTURE runs.Code:E_Euras EuAnato Nafrica Sasian MidEast WCAfric Eafrica Wafrica
ASY7 0.45% 37.46% 0.92% 9.72% 51.45% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
ASY14 0.00% 41.64% 0.42% 6.50% 51.43% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Hum 0.00% 37.54% 0.00% 11.34% 51.11% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
ASY9 0.00% 40.65% 0.00% 9.98% 49.37% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
ASY8 0.00% 40.09% 0.00% 11.30% 48.60% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
ASY10 0.00% 40.89% 0.00% 10.74% 48.36% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
ASY5 0.53% 38.44% 0.63% 12.06% 48.32% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
ASY2 0.56% 43.23% 2.16% 7.65% 46.39% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
ASY11 0.00% 43.71% 1.14% 9.77% 45.38% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Neolithic Belt and surrounds average K8 values for many populations (and some individuals) in the neighborhood of the Mid East, in descending order by the "Middle East" component.
SIQ=IQ2Code:E_Euras EuAnato Nafrica Sasian MidEast WCAfric Eafrica Wafrica
1 KSA 1% 9% 16% 4% 68% 0% 2% 0%
2 SIQ 1% 13% 12% 5% 63% 5% 1% 0%
3 PAL 1% 24% 11% 3% 55% 1% 3% 2%
4 YEM 2% 16% 12% 8% 50% 4% 7% 2%
5 ASY 0% 40% 1% 10% 49% 0% 0% 0%
6 JOR 1% 30% 10% 6% 47% 1% 3% 1%
7 SYR 1% 34% 6% 8% 46% 1% 2% 1%
8 NCIQ 2% 36% 2% 14% 45% 2% 0% 0%
9 LEB 2% 36% 7% 7% 44% 1% 3% 1%
10 ARM 0% 45% 0% 11% 43% 0% 0% 0%
11 EGY 1% 22% 19% 1% 43% 2% 8% 3%
12 CYP 0% 52% 5% 3% 40% 0% 0% 0%
13 IRN 1% 34% 1% 22% 39% 1% 1% 0%
14 GEO 0% 49% 0% 13% 38% 0% 0% 0%
15 ER1 1% 0% 15% 0% 37% 0% 47% 0%
16 LIB 1% 16% 35% 1% 33% 3% 7% 4%
17 TRK 5% 50% 1% 12% 32% 0% 0% 0%
18 ETH 1% 0% 16% 0% 31% 1% 50% 0%
19 SEJ 1% 55% 10% 2% 31% 0% 0% 0%
20 ASJ 2% 60% 7% 2% 29% 0% 0% 0%
21 GRK 1% 71% 3% 2% 23% 0% 0% 0%
22 PKEG1 1% 18% 2% 58% 20% 0% 1% 2%
23 ALG 1% 19% 47% 1% 17% 3% 4% 7%
24 MOR 1% 17% 53% 1% 10% 4% 3% 11%
25 PJT 2% 26% 0% 63% 9% 0% 0% 0%
26 UZB 36% 34% 0% 22% 8% 0% 0% 0%
27 PK1 5% 20% 1% 67% 7% 0% 0% 0%
28 IND 7% 8% 1% 79% 5% 0% 0% 0%
29 MOZ 0% 7% 75% 4% 3% 6% 1% 4%
30 KZ1 53% 31% 0% 13% 3% 0% 0% 0%
31 GUJ 2% 5% 1% 91% 1% 0% 0% 0%
NCIQ=Central (Baghdadi) Iraqi and N Iraqi/Balkar
Here is a link to the Neolithic Belt calculator for those interested. Remember to use OpenOffice.
Because the Spanish and Irish are not nearly as related on an autosomal level as Y-DNA would lead people to believe. Your South/Western score is the highest out of the Brit samples and almost double the British average, but it is still only a little over half the Spanish average.Quote:
Originally Posted by Imperivm
Also, your North/Central score of 34.6% is close to the Irish average of 36.8%. The Spanish average is 3.5%; big difference. That is why you are close to the Irish, but distant from the Spanish.
Wait, where/how do you get a chart like you just described? From Eurogenes?Quote:
Originally Posted by Electronic God-Man