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10-10-2020, 04:42 PM
vbnetkhio

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacitus

Ok I combined the recent regional averages for Italy with the original sources and here are the new averages for K13. The only unchanged ones are Basilicata (the new Lucania sample is virtually identical), Molise, , and Umbria.

Code:

Italian_Abruzzo,20.94,8.67,21.62,13.43,29.24,4.58,0.15,0.24,0.25,0.2,0.37,0.26,0.05 Italian_Aosta,39.39,15.81,22.37,7.56,12.42,1.2,0.46,0.01,0,0.01,0.12,0.44,0.21 Italian_Apulia,19.02,8.26,22.3,14.71,29.55,4.6,0.13,0.11,0.11,0.4,0.43,0.3,0.08 Italian_Basilicata,20.54,8.01,20.72,14.55,28.73,5.5,0.37,0.08,0.09,0.03,0.46,0.59,0.33 Italian_Calabria,16.19,5.91,21.7,15.11,32.79,6.1,0.36,0.35,0.02,0.1,0.36,0.74,0.27 Italian_Campania,18.33,7.26,22.11,14.74,30.71,4.93,0.46,0.24,0.16,0.3,0.18,0.44,0.14 Italian_Emilia,29.45,11.37,24.41,8.37,21.84,3.16,0.26,0.33,0.03,0.28,0.34,0.11,0.04 Italian_Friuli,31.36,17.52,20.96,7.7,18.04,2.72,0.39,0.28,0.05,0.77,0.11,0.1,0 Italian_Lazio,24.44,9.2,23.7,11.63,25.84,3.76,0.34,0.24,0.13,0.21,0.26,0.16,0.07 Italian_Liguria,30.04,11.84,24.67,7.62,21.38,2.96,0.38,0.35,0.09,0.28,0.24,0.05,0.04 Italian_Lombardy,32.65,12.11,25.67,6.77,19.54,2.16,0.2,0.18,0.14,0.09,0.14,0.18,0.09 Italian_Marche,24.57,9.18,22.96,11.69,25.92,4.39,0.19,0.13,0.14,0.27,0.21,0.2,0.15 Italian_Molise,20.11,8.57,21.61,14.07,29.62,4.58,0.02,0.47,0,0.38,0.25,0.16,0.16 Italian_Piedmont,33.1,14.48,24.23,6.57,17.45,2.85,0.07,0.11,0.16,0.3,0.4,0.02,0.26 Italian_Romagna,26.15,11.02,23.57,9.88,24.19,4.14,0.14,0.41,0.05,0.34,0.18,0.13,0.06 Italian_Sardinia,23.19,1.83,48.87,0.28,22.28,2.68,0,0.18,0.02,0,0.27,0.27,0.15 Italian_Sicily,18.15,7.04,22,14.07,30.3,5.18,0.38,0.25,0.22,0.16,0.44,1.07,0.71 Italian_Trentino,33.28,17.34,23.41,5.89,17.29,1.81,0,0.16,0.19,0.24,0.3,0.08,0.01 Italian_Tuscany,28.19,11.11,24.1,9.5,22.17,3.76,0.28,0.15,0.14,0.09,0.3,0.11,0.11 Italian_Umbria,26.21,9.45,23.31,11.11,24.58,3.76,0.28,0.17,0,0.16,0.84,0.13,0 Italian_Veneto,32.41,14.7,23.41,7.18,18.81,1.92,0.29,0.42,0.29,0.28,0.25,0.03,0.03 Malta,16.23,6.76,21.7,12.76,32.1,5.85,0.5,0.77,0,0.07,0.31,1.6,1.32

Please delete the current samples and add these. Thanks.

you made the averages which are currently in the sheet?
10-10-2020, 04:45 PM
Tacitus

Quote:

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

you made the averages which are currently in the sheet?

I took the averages that Lucas posted and combined those with their corresponding averages already in Vahaduo, coming up with the ones I posted.
10-10-2020, 04:55 PM
vbnetkhio

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacitus

I took the averages that Lucas posted and combined those with their corresponding averages already in Vahaduo, coming up with the ones I posted.

whoever made the current averages should share the individual samples he used, and they should be combined with Patrius' individual samples.

for example, maybe the current Tuscan average has 10 samples, and the new one from Patrius has 100, in that case the Patrius average is much better and should completely replace the current one. this is just one of the reasons why it should be done this way.
10-10-2020, 04:56 PM
J. Ketch

Never noticed Pennsylvania Dutch in the database before, interesting.

Distance to: Pennsylvania_Dutch
3.94992405 West_German
4.66171642 Swiss_German
5.46640650 FRA_Alsace
5.48789577 FRA_Belgica
6.18409250 German_Bavarian
6.26643439 South_Dutch
6.31468922 Belgium
8.49428043 FRA_Central
8.77675908 Austria-Tyrol
8.77690720 FRA_Armorica
8.88092901 Austria-Burgenland
9.14867203 English_Southeast
9.44982540 Southwest_English
9.96016566 English_Midlands
10.10446436 North_German
10.18204793 Dutch
10.26913823 Southeast_English
10.60157535 Italy_Aostavalley
10.63696855 English_North
11.03514839 England
11.09996396 North_Dutch
11.62367842 East_German
11.80181342 Welsh
11.88194429 Scotland
11.91352593 Ulster_British

Target: Pennsylvania_Dutch
Distance: 1.3744% / 1.37439393
52.2 West_Norwegian
29.0 Italy_Lombardy
6.4 France-South
6.0 Latvian
2.6 Sardinian
2.0 Italy_Trentino
1.8 Jordanian
10-10-2020, 05:01 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Creoda

Never noticed Pennsylvania Dutch in the database before, interesting.

I believe they are from Southwestern Germany just like Volga Germans. Can I see the average?
10-10-2020, 05:05 PM
J. Ketch

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

I believe they are from Southwestern Germany just like Volga Germans. Can I see the average?

It's already in K15 updated

Pennsylvania_Dutch,32.06,23.02,11.58,8.27,12.36,3. 01,8.04,0.34,0.45,0,0,0.15,0.44,0,0.27
10-10-2020, 05:07 PM
Tacitus

Quote:

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

whoever made the current averages should share the individual samples he used, and they should be combined with Patrius' individual samples.

for example, maybe the current Tuscan average has 10 samples, and the new one Patrius has 100, in that case the Patrius average is much better and should completely replace the current one.

I've no idea who created the original samples, I don't think they're a member here. I will say that Patrius's samples were for the most part pretty close to the originals:

Spoiler!

Distance to: IT_Calabria_ultra (southern Calabria)
1.05858396 IT_Calabria
2.55734237 Malta
3.82734895 IT_Campania
3.85262248 Greek_North_Aegean
4.33133928 Sicily
5.19529595 Greek_Symi_Island
5.46014652 IT_Apulia
5.54912606 Greek_Dodecanese
5.66544791 Greek_Crete
6.17143419 IT_Molise
6.49640670 Greek_Cyclades
6.49843058 IT_Basilicata
6.74616187 Greek_Ionia
6.84843778 Greek_Chios
6.92251399 IT_Abruzzo
6.96955522 Sephardic_Jewish
7.56436382 Ashkenazi
7.82108688 Italian_Jewish
8.06885989 Algerian_Jewish
8.07647200 Greek_Andros_Island
9.12711345 Moroccan_Jew
9.30129561 Greek_Athens
9.95105020 Greek_Central
11.52794431 Tunisian_Jewish
11.77708368 Turk_Crete

Distance to: IT_Salento (subregion of Apulia)
2.03172341 IT_Apulia
2.42163168 IT_Campania
2.55462326 IT_Molise
2.76546560 Sicily
3.33303165 IT_Abruzzo
3.58598661 IT_Basilicata
4.42382188 Greek_Cyclades
5.10389067 Malta
5.23368895 IT_Calabria
5.86317320 Greek_Ionia
6.03158354 Greek_North_Aegean
6.41014040 Greek_Andros_Island
6.95573145 Greek_Athens
7.77069495 Greek_Central
7.83024904 Greek_Crete
8.73635508 Greek_Western-Thrace
8.85293172 Greek_Symi_Island
8.96957636 IT_Marche
8.99458170 Greek_Dodecanese
9.13065715 IT_Lazio
9.55610799 Greek_Chios
9.56052823 Ashkenazi
9.95798172 Greek_Peloponnese
10.16585953 IT_Umbria
10.87603788 Greek_West

Distance to: IT_Calabria_citra (northern Calabria)
1.48559752 IT_Calabria
2.96469223 Malta
3.16477487 IT_Campania
3.54746388 Greek_North_Aegean
3.94736621 Sicily
4.74817860 IT_Apulia
5.48270918 Greek_Symi_Island
5.51282142 IT_Molise
5.51598586 Greek_Crete
5.74771259 Greek_Dodecanese
5.94078278 Greek_Cyclades
6.08269677 IT_Basilicata
6.23983173 Greek_Ionia
6.32365401 IT_Abruzzo
6.93269789 Greek_Chios
7.63209015 Ashkenazi
7.70757420 Sephardic_Jewish
7.73347270 Greek_Andros_Island
8.26970374 Italian_Jewish
8.62784446 Algerian_Jewish
8.73067580 Greek_Athens
9.40885753 Greek_Central
9.66474004 Moroccan_Jew
11.62152744 Turk_Crete
11.83017751 Greek_Peloponnese

Distance to: IT_Lucania
0.05000000 IT_Basilicata
1.69277878 IT_Abruzzo
1.94347627 IT_Molise
2.47016194 IT_Apulia
2.89223097 Sicily
3.34680445 IT_Campania
3.64016483 Greek_Cyclades
4.37870986 Greek_Andros_Island
5.52627361 Malta
5.78959411 Greek_Ionia
5.96394165 Greek_Athens
6.52833057 Greek_Central
6.90190553 IT_Calabria
7.40859636 IT_Marche
7.47707162 Greek_North_Aegean
7.70971465 Greek_Western-Thrace
7.85973918 IT_Lazio
8.44085304 Greek_Peloponnese
8.55446667 IT_Umbria
8.84441066 Greek_Crete
9.01523710 Greek_West_Macedonia
9.32303599 Turk_Crete
9.42000000 Greek
9.53189908 IT_Romagna
9.58550468 Ashkenazi

Distance to: IT_Puglia
1.29607099 IT_Apulia
1.94347627 Greek_Cyclades
1.95887723 IT_Molise
2.43257066 IT_Abruzzo
2.56329866 Sicily
2.57491747 IT_Basilicata
3.34995522 IT_Campania
3.82963445 Greek_Ionia
4.07680022 Greek_Athens
4.36895869 Greek_Andros_Island
4.80202041 Greek_Central
5.42682227 Malta
6.27986465 Greek_North_Aegean
6.61670613 IT_Calabria
6.90971779 Greek_Western-Thrace
7.03695247 Greek_Peloponnese
7.43804410 Greek_Crete
8.09455372 Greek_West_Macedonia
8.14879746 Greek
8.20302383 IT_Marche
8.27118492 Greek_West
8.33592826 Turk_Crete
8.45568448 IT_Lazio
8.88811004 Greek_Northeast
8.96467512 Ashkenazi

Distance to: IT_Sannio (a subregion of Campania)
1.93271829 IT_Apulia
2.02403063 Sicily
2.57309153 IT_Molise
3.20858224 IT_Campania
3.23780790 IT_Abruzzo
3.68608193 IT_Basilicata
4.00690654 Greek_Cyclades
4.73997890 Malta
5.34328551 Greek_Ionia
5.60868969 IT_Calabria
5.99864151 Greek_Athens
6.17192839 Greek_North_Aegean
6.46233704 Greek_Andros_Island
6.88422835 Greek_Central
7.76618954 Greek_Crete
8.14994479 Greek_Western-Thrace
8.64571570 Ashkenazi
8.71077494 IT_Marche
8.80820072 IT_Lazio
8.92839851 Greek_Peloponnese
9.38410358 Greek_Dodecanese
9.56450208 Greek_Symi_Island
9.90296925 IT_Umbria
9.96221361 Greek_West
10.08087794 Greek

Distance to: IT_Emilia_est
1.19440362 IT_Tuscan
2.43667807 IT_Emilia
3.27771262 IT_Romagna
3.34868631 Italian
3.35025372 IT_Liguria
4.46544511 IT_Umbria
5.36005597 IT_Lazio
5.49346885 IT_Marche
5.75975694 FrenchCorsica
6.37057297 IT_Lombardy
7.43232131 IT_Veneto
7.75336056 IT_Piedmont
8.80528251 IT_Friuli-VG
8.96391655 Greek_Western-Thrace
9.55133499 FRA_Provence
9.57543733 Vlach_Central-Macedonia
9.71901744 Albanian_north_Albania
9.73816718 Greek_Central-Macedonia
9.89231520 Albanian_Kosovo
9.93571839 Torbesh_average
10.26649892 Albanian_south_Albania
10.46981853 Albanian_Albania
10.49918568 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
10.51142712 Albanian
10.71678123 IT_Trentino

Distance to: IT_Emilia_ovest
1.49793191 IT_Emilia
1.53733536 IT_Liguria
3.54818263 IT_Tuscan
4.39424624 IT_Lombardy
5.58921282 Italian
5.69768374 IT_Romagna
5.87848620 IT_Veneto
6.07638050 IT_Piedmont
6.28062099 FrenchCorsica
6.32540908 IT_Umbria
7.20626117 IT_Lazio
7.50567785 IT_Marche
7.88426281 FRA_Provence
8.34739480 IT_Friuli-VG
9.47136738 IT_Trentino
9.50473566 Swiss-Italian2
10.07684474 Swiss_Italian
10.90036697 Greek_Western-Thrace
11.50406450 Albanian_Kosovo
11.65490026 Albanian_north_Albania
11.76778229 Greek_Central-Macedonia
11.83703088 Torbesh_average
11.84590225 Vlach_Central-Macedonia
12.45088350 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
12.52916597 Albanian_south_Albania

Distance to: IT_Orobia (eastern Lombardy)
2.16004630 IT_Lombardy
3.29533003 IT_Liguria
3.80194687 IT_Piedmont
4.43488444 IT_Emilia
4.78677344 IT_Veneto
5.65372444 FRA_Provence
6.42823459 Swiss-Italian2
7.14081228 IT_Tuscan
7.30887132 Swiss_Italian
7.60484056 IT_Trentino
7.89589767 IT_Friuli-VG
8.51903750 FrenchCorsica
9.16644424 Spanish_Extremadura
9.31119219 Italian
9.37224093 Portuguese
9.41048352 IT_Romagna
9.84225076 Spanish_Andalucia
10.10870912 IT_Umbria
10.20222035 Spanish_Murcia
10.44408445 Spanish_Valencia
10.96984047 IT_Lazio
11.05631042 Spanish_Galicia
11.22655780 Spanish
11.26619723 IT_Marche
11.27869673 AostaValley

Distance to: IT_Insubria (western Lombardy)
2.87947912 IT_Piedmont
3.01260684 IT_Veneto
3.02886117 IT_Lombardy
3.18176052 IT_Liguria
4.06179763 IT_Emilia
4.67275080 FRA_Provence
6.03607488 Swiss-Italian2
6.31350933 IT_Trentino
6.32792225 IT_Friuli-VG
7.11955055 IT_Tuscan
7.25066893 Swiss_Italian
8.90713759 Italian
9.12288332 IT_Romagna
9.46183914 FrenchCorsica
9.82275420 Portuguese
9.91262327 Spanish_Extremadura
9.99221697 IT_Umbria
10.28373473 AostaValley
10.86719375 Spanish_Andalucia
10.92023809 IT_Lazio
11.06868104 Spanish_Murcia
11.15212087 IT_Marche
11.31069848 Spanish_Valencia
11.38246898 Spanish_Galicia
11.61839059 Spanish_Cataluna
10-10-2020, 05:08 PM
J. Ketch

Quote:

Originally Posted by Creoda

It's already in K15 updated

Pennsylvania_Dutch,32.06,23.02,11.58,8.27,12.36,3. 01,8.04,0.34,0.45,0,0,0.15,0.44,0,0.27

Arikaners are probably similar, maybe a little more Northern as they're largely from the Netherlands and surrounds.
10-10-2020, 05:12 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Creoda

Arikaners are probably similar, maybe a little more Northern as they're largely from the Netherlands and surrounds.

They do have detectable non-Caucasoid influences.
10-10-2020, 05:28 PM
Ajeje Brazorf

Quote:

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

whoever made the current averages should share the individual samples he used, and they should be combined with Patrius' individual samples.

for example, maybe the current Tuscan average has 10 samples, and the new one from Patrius has 100, in that case the Patrius average is much better and should completely replace the current one. this is just one of the reasons why it should be done this way.

The averages were made by user Sizzo and posted in his personal blog, not by me.