Pensaba que me preguntabas por los haplogrupos de mi familia, estoy que no me entero de nada, perdona.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damião de Góis
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Pensaba que me preguntabas por los haplogrupos de mi familia, estoy que no me entero de nada, perdona.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damião de Góis
A quantidade de G2a é impressionante.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
Eu sei que não é fácil determinar ao certo o que é Celta ou não mas a Suiça sempre foi considerado um epicentro Céltico; até há teorias que vários povos ancestrais pré-Romanos que habitavam a Península Ibérica migraram dessa região para cá.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Acho curioso e sugestivo até que estas amostras sejam bastante idênticas a nós (os Suíços modernos são mais Germânicos) e que tenham pouca afinidade com Irlandeses, Escoceses e Germânicos.
Sim, tem muitos. É normal, são as amostras mais antigas (se reparares na tabela tem a estimação da idade da amostra). As mais recentes são no entanto predominantemente R1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damião de Góis
Son las muestras de celtas halladas en Suiza de las que se abrió un thread no hace mucho, donde varios irlandeses comparaban sus distancias con ellos mediante el g25?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
Igual lo he soñado:picard1:
Muchos G en Irlanda no hay.
https://www.marres.education/G-M201.htm
Que tonto es el belga os lo juro, yo creo que le falta un hervor.
São estas amostras:Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
E as populações mais próximas:Code:Celtic:SX18_scaled,0.126344,0.152329,0.048271,-0.00646,0.051394,-0.007251,0.0047,-0.000692,0.016362,0.035354,0.002598,0.016485,-0.016055,-0.006055,0.001629,0.000663,0.006128,0.00266,0.003897,-0.006628,0.006364,0.006183,-0.011709,-0.006145,0.000958
Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_119,0.121791,0.140143,0.05242,0.026486,0.040623,0.003068,0.001175,0.001154,0.003477,0.017859,-0.001299,0.01124,-0.020961,-0.019818,0.01045,0.02201,0.01708,-0.0019,0.009679,0.002376,0.007986,0.003957,-0.005053,0.000964,0.008382
Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA_POST_44,0.124067,0.144205,0.056568,0.008721,0.04924,-0.001952,-0.00188,0.000692,0.008795,0.028247,0.001299,0.009292,-0.017988,-0.003028,0.005293,0.008353,-0.002608,-0.00266,0.004525,0.001126,-0.008235,-0.008285,-0.001356,-0.002651,-0.003233
Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA_POST_50,0.120652,0.153345,0.043746,-0.002584,0.052933,-0.003347,-0.00329,-0.002077,0.022293,0.031162,-0.005846,0.008692,-0.022299,-0.010459,-0.002172,0.014585,0.021253,0.004307,0.001257,-0.005753,0.00262,0.000124,0.002835,-0.005181,-0.010418
Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA_OTTM_151ind2_d,0.127482,0.156392,0.047894,0.005491,0.04647,-0.011435,0.00329,0.011538,0.010022,0.031345,0.006496,0.012889,-0.012487,-0.01156,-0.0095,0.000796,0.001565,-0.003801,-0.005656,0.005753,-0.002995,0.009521,-0.001356,-0.006386,-0.011855
Celtic:DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier3_WEZ57,0.129758,0.142174,0.050911,0.039406,0.044316,0.007251,-0.004935,0.008538,0.028429,0.024237,0.007957,0.007194,-0.008622,-0.012248,-0.000407,0.004906,-0.000652,0.001014,-0.003017,0.000375,0.012852,0.009645,-0.009983,0.005784,-0.004071
Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA111,0.124067,0.151314,0.063356,0.026163,0.0437,0.005857,0.001175,0.002308,0.020861,0.02442,-0.012342,0.00015,-0.01665,-0.003165,0.014658,-0.009546,-0.018254,0.003801,0.005908,0.001626,0.009858,0.006059,-0.004437,-0.005904,-0.005269
Celtic:St_Gallen_SX20,0.129758,0.147252,0.055814,0.012274,0.055087,0.009203,0.001175,0.001846,0.013908,0.0277,-0.003897,0.012589,-0.019623,-0.007707,0.005293,-0.008884,-0.017341,-0.003801,0.001006,-0.008504,-0.003494,0.004699,-0.002711,-0.006266,-0.00479
Celtic:Constance_MX254_2,0.130897,0.136081,0.055437,0.024871,0.041854,0.00251,0.0047,0.006231,0.017794,0.024784,-0.004384,0.007493,-0.016501,-0.014313,0.003122,0.018165,0.014473,0.003547,-0.002388,5e-04,-0.004243,0.011129,0.001479,-0.010483,0.001317
Celtic:Constance_MX283,0.126344,0.137096,0.057322,0.023579,0.050779,-0.003068,0.001175,0.003,0.020043,0.035172,-0.005521,0.009591,-0.014866,-0.009083,-0.000814,0.022408,0.016689,0.000127,0.004022,-0.002376,-0.001497,0.00643,-0.00456,-0.010242,0.001437
Code:Distance to: Celtic:Constance_MX283
0.03230589 Spanish_Soria
0.03981424 French_Auvergne
0.03988847 French_Occitanie
0.04058295 French_South
0.04108385 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.04109183 Spanish_Castello
0.04238192 Spanish_Girona
0.04344088 Spanish_Penedes
0.04357718 Spanish_Pirineu
0.04367458 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04370804 Swiss_French
0.04373152 Spanish_Cantabria
0.04483558 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04491178 Spanish_Cataluna
0.04500153 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.04501239 Spanish_Barcelones
0.04516028 Spanish_Lleida
0.04530823 French_Paris
0.04594034 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04600792 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04695622 Spanish_Baleares
0.04780595 Basque_Spanish
0.04839098 French_Provence
0.04846419 Spanish_Valencia
0.04852166 French_Pas-de-Calais
Distance to: Celtic:Constance_MX254_2
0.03464891 French_Occitanie
0.03505670 French_Auvergne
0.03540269 Spanish_Soria
0.03686544 Swiss_French
0.03715282 French_Paris
0.03914016 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03991851 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.04038952 French_Nord
0.04044978 Swiss_German
0.04088626 Spanish_Penedes
0.04124982 Spanish_Girona
0.04142974 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04170260 French_Alsace
0.04173687 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04206262 Belgian
0.04243459 French_South
0.04250244 French_Provence
0.04297874 Spanish_Castello
0.04365573 Spanish_Pirineu
0.04396880 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04420092 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04438978 Spanish_Lleida
0.04467872 Spanish_Cantabria
0.04474864 Spanish_Barcelones
0.04633059 Spanish_Baleares
Distance to: Celtic:St_Gallen_SX20
0.02962418 Spanish_Barcelones
0.03088535 French_Occitanie
0.03111555 French_Auvergne
0.03197608 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.03291915 Basque_French
0.03300421 French_South
0.03484421 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.03543462 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.03629089 Spanish_Lleida
0.03654432 Spanish_Pirineu
0.03657065 Spanish_Cantabria
0.03682866 Spanish_Aragon
0.03689219 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.03696268 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.03747817 Spanish_Penedes
0.03768521 Spanish_Valencia
0.03780898 Swiss_German
0.03781292 Spanish_Cataluna
0.03788158 Spanish_Girona
0.03884917 Swiss_French
0.03936236 Spanish_Navarra
0.04042572 French_Paris
0.04063183 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04078563 French_Alsace
0.04080754 Spanish_Menorca
Distance to: Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA111
0.03291365 French_Occitanie
0.03631749 Basque_French
0.03648036 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.03684493 French_Auvergne
0.03780029 French_Nord
0.03826638 Spanish_Barcelones
0.03843157 French_Paris
0.03912666 French_South
0.03939012 Swiss_German
0.03963959 French_Alsace
0.04031288 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04081481 Belgian
0.04312752 French_Brittany
0.04444562 Spanish_Lleida
0.04471861 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.04475237 English_Cornwall
0.04533750 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.04540566 Spanish_Cantabria
0.04554543 Spanish_Penedes
0.04561174 Spanish_Cataluna
0.04605195 Swiss_French
0.04631059 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04642746 Basque_Spanish
0.04657961 Spanish_Pirineu
0.04660060 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
Distance to: Celtic:DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier3_WEZ57
0.03601594 French_Occitanie
0.03780723 French_Paris
0.03848481 Swiss_German
0.03849164 French_Nord
0.03864224 French_Auvergne
0.03905844 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04017684 Belgian
0.04079787 French_Alsace
0.04174337 French_Brittany
0.04355320 Swiss_French
0.04542585 German
0.04633375 Welsh
0.04636874 Afrikaner
0.04679442 English_Cornwall
0.04693512 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04709144 French_South
0.04738209 Spanish_Penedes
0.04749294 Spanish_Girona
0.04750552 Spanish_Lleida
0.04763918 English
0.04765734 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.04777402 Spanish_Barcelones
0.04805704 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04868233 Spanish_Pirineu
0.04900787 Spanish_Cantabria
Distance to: Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA_OTTM_151ind2_d
0.03577707 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.03595198 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.03595973 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.03660923 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03672049 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.03673364 Spanish_Mallorca
0.03684493 Spanish_Baleares
0.03710794 Spanish_Pirineu
0.03721960 Spanish_Girona
0.03737691 Spanish_Lleida
0.03746860 Spanish_Menorca
0.03868265 French_Auvergne
0.03917864 Spanish_Barcelones
0.03920443 Spanish_Cantabria
0.03938246 Spanish_Penedes
0.03944746 Spanish_Eivissa
0.03995945 Spanish_Castello
0.03997771 Italian_Veneto
0.04049082 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04058347 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.04072658 Swiss_French
0.04075304 French_Provence
0.04110895 French_Occitanie
0.04117458 Spanish_Valencia
0.04124903 Spanish_Aragon
Distance to: Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA_POST_50
0.02875729 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.03119375 Spanish_Baleares
0.03139636 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.03212900 Spanish_Castello
0.03227504 Spanish_Soria
0.03388466 Spanish_Girona
0.03470392 Spanish_Mallorca
0.03474832 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.03557213 Spanish_Penedes
0.03573592 Spanish_Lleida
0.03612450 Spanish_Cataluna
0.03621616 Spanish_Menorca
0.03622804 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.03654754 Spanish_Pirineu
0.03768222 Spanish_Cantabria
0.03801579 Spanish_Murcia
0.03810457 Spanish_Alacant
0.03949170 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03956545 Spanish_Eivissa
0.03959215 Spanish_Valencia
0.03987004 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.04014169 Spanish_Barcelones
0.04021442 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.04046931 Swiss_French
0.04054675 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
Distance to: Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA_POST_44
0.02636200 French_Auvergne
0.02759794 French_Occitanie
0.02877852 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.02924560 Spanish_Barcelones
0.02933076 Spanish_Cataluna
0.02972110 Spanish_Penedes
0.02973609 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.02974155 Spanish_Girona
0.03094206 Spanish_Mallorca
0.03126902 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.03189471 Spanish_Lleida
0.03216539 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.03257152 Swiss_French
0.03272564 Spanish_Baleares
0.03314034 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03326641 Spanish_Pirineu
0.03342980 French_South
0.03392371 Spanish_Castello
0.03414049 Spanish_Cantabria
0.03417752 Spanish_Valencia
0.03424700 French_Provence
0.03535014 Spanish_Aragon
0.03552567 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03609045 Spanish_Eivissa
0.03629228 Swiss_German
Distance to: Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_119
0.03649465 Swiss_French
0.03675682 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03694349 French_Paris
0.03842276 French_Occitanie
0.03857627 Belgian
0.03883154 French_Auvergne
0.03887064 French_Nord
0.03929073 Swiss_German
0.04009858 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04090527 French_Alsace
0.04185605 Spanish_Soria
0.04295082 French_Provence
0.04425606 French_Brittany
0.04459329 Spanish_Penedes
0.04579596 Spanish_Girona
0.04680678 Afrikaner
0.04694587 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.04815882 Welsh
0.04824686 German
0.04829523 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04832779 Spanish_Castello
0.04836156 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04854016 Spanish_Lleida
0.04902831 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04933473 Spanish_Cataluna
Distance to: Celtic:SX18_scaled
0.02768718 Spanish_Lleida
0.02779682 Spanish_Castello
0.02786045 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.02803243 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.02816757 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.02863416 Spanish_Pirineu
0.02958359 Spanish_Barcelones
0.03012148 Spanish_Menorca
0.03050536 Spanish_Girona
0.03059376 Spanish_Valencia
0.03059874 Spanish_Baleares
0.03060928 Spanish_Cantabria
0.03071157 Spanish_Cataluna
0.03074607 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.03081546 Spanish_Mallorca
0.03102801 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.03120009 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.03174765 Spanish_Aragon
0.03179680 Spanish_Eivissa
0.03198264 Spanish_Penedes
0.03318008 Spanish_Navarra
0.03355992 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03402946 Spanish_Alacant
0.03426509 Italian_Bergamo
0.03484888 French_South
Actualmente é uma minoria em toda a Europa, preservou-se mais na Sardenha por estar isolada. Outrora já foi um dos haplogrupos mais comuns do velho continente.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Ainda assim temos dois membros Portugueses aqui no fórum que são G, isso é que é resistência :D
El belga de siempre? Que le pasa ahora?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0