Iron Age and Early Medieval Polish DNA coming soon

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Originally Posted by Not a Cop

Any dates?

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Oh yes, VERY SOON, they are genotyping it now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mYqY5YELd0

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Originally Posted by Artek

Just to heat up an atmosphere a bit: there are going to be many more results coming from the Goths in what is now Poland including also R1a-Z284 and at least two Z280s but samples are predominantly I1 so far (mostly under S2077 with one L22). I can't say when it becomes public though.

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Z280s are probably assimilated Pre-Germanic locals, or maybe assimilated West Balts (in terms of direct paternal ancestry at least).

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Originally Posted by Peterski

Oh yes, VERY SOON, they are genotyping it now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mYqY5YELd0

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Then they need to analyze them, write it all up, pass peer review, wait for the next publication date, and finally get the BAMs online. See you all back in 2022.

well I guess this is the moment we've all been waiting for to see if the Lugii tribe was celtic or not

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Originally Posted by TheOldNorth

well I guess this is the moment we've all been waiting for to see if the Lugii tribe was celtic or not

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Maybe second institution will do it faster. Poznan is lazy as fuck.

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Originally Posted by TheOldNorth

Lugii tribe was celtic or not

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Was. At least the original ones. The name says it itself.
The thing is, if they did include into confederation non-Celts or not.
Probably they did, so, genetic material can be not clear, if they did not
encamped separetely by hgs. Au probably will say nothing, because it is
very hard to imagine, that they were autosomally isolating themselves.

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Originally Posted by Pine

Then they need to analyze them, write it all up, pass peer review, wait for the next publication date, and finally get the BAMs online. See you all back in 2022.

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there are already BAMs of ancient Polish samples here, but nobody knows how to convert them :noidea:
http://gigadb.org/dataset/view/id/10...id/File_page/1

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Originally Posted by Rethel

Was. At least the original ones. The name says it itself.
The thing is, if they did include into confederation non-Celts or not.
Probably they did, so, genetic material can be not clear, if they did not
encamped separetely by hgs. Au probably will say nothing, because it is
very hard to imagine, that they were autosomally isolating themselves.

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true, but if more central european or eastern european or something absorbed into one or both is revealed to be prevalent in the early samples, then we may gain insight, after all, though Lugii certainly sounds celtic, who's to say it isn't a latin or celtic corruption of a more balto-slavic sounding word

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

there are already BAMs of ancient Polish samples here, but nobody knows how to convert them :noidea:
http://gigadb.org/dataset/view/id/10...id/File_page/1

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These .BAMs were already analysed by the community. They are just of a sh*tty quality.

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Originally Posted by Artek

These .BAMs were already analysed by the community. They are just of a sh*tty quality.

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these are higher quality versions, and also many samples which weren't published previously on the other website.