Iranian GEDmatch kits

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Originally Posted by Zoro

That’s true but I don’t think W Asians got the phenotype from African pygmies it’s much more likely they got it from e Asians

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How much E. Asiatic DNA do Kurds have according to you?

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Originally Posted by MS85

How much E. Asiatic DNA do Kurds have according to you?

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Dunno exactly that’s why I was hoping someone would make a k3 calculator with SSA ENF and E Asian but I guess I have to learn Admixture program if no one builds it. It should be more than Eurasia k3 calculator because that one uses Caucasian and European w Eurasian references and those references have some old E Eurasian

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Originally Posted by Zoro

Dunno exactly that’s why I was hoping someone would make a k3 calculator with SSA ENF and E Asian but I guess I have to learn Admixture program if no one builds it. It should be more than Eurasia k3 calculator because that one uses Caucasian and European w Eurasian references and those references have some old E Eurasian

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K3 is not accurate.

I know that you have got your ideas from here: https://eurasiandna.com/impact-of-th...an-demography/

And if we believe that guy, Kurds can be modeled as this.

https://i.postimg.cc/NFt3xB3h/A66-D2...E77-DD21-E.png
https://i.postimg.cc/Y9znMgsV/4-B4-E...0-BF4499-B.jpg

But, then again, my question will be how much Eastern Asian Mongoloid DNA did proto-Turkic people have? If proto-Tukic XiongNu were 100% Mongoloid, then average of Kurds can be modelled around 17% East Eurasian.

But this model only works if there were absolutely no other migrations into Kurdistan than the proto-Turkic one. But that doesn't make any sense at all. Since there was no proto-Turkic migration into Kurdistan at the first place. And the Oghuz Turks and Seljuks were not proto-Turkic.

Nevertheless, no matter what, Kurds are still at least for about 85% native to Kurdistan. We are West Asian people and our DNA is West Asian/Eurasian in nature.

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Originally Posted by MS85

K3 is not accurate.

I know that you have got your ideas from here: https://eurasiandna.com/impact-of-th...an-demography/

And if we believe that guy, Kurds can be modeled as this.

https://i.postimg.cc/NFt3xB3h/A66-D2...E77-DD21-E.png
https://i.postimg.cc/Y9znMgsV/4-B4-E...0-BF4499-B.jpg

But, then again, my question will be how much Eastern Asian Mongoloid DNA did proto-Turkic people have? If proto-Tukic XiongNu were 100% Mongoloid, then average of Kurds can be modelled around 17% East Eurasian.

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That’s a good question.I don’t think they were 100% mongoloid so i guess it has to be less than 17% E Eurasian. Btw i like his other model with saka better

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Originally Posted by Zoro

That’s a good question.I don’t think they were 100% mongoloid so i guess it has to be less than 17% E Eurasian. Btw i like his other model with saka better

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According to him, some E Eurasian came from Saka and some came from Turkic people. But somehow he never combined these 2 models. I'm sure that those proto-Turkic tribes had also EHG + Neo_Iran auDNA

https://i.postimg.cc/Dwt4yNVJ/377-CA...669885-DAE.png
https://i.postimg.cc/C5sxCFxX/CAE51-...52-C28-B50.jpg


And this models are very limited, since Haji-Firuz-Chl also mixed with the Copper Age Armenians. Kurds have a lot Copper Age Armenian auDNA since the Iron Age.

None of this calculators are accurate and useful since he didn't use Copper Age Armenian auDNA here.

I think the best model for Kurds should be Copper Age Iranians (Haji-Firuz-Chl) + Copper Age Armenians + some Saka/Scythians + some Turkic (Seljuks) + some Semitic (Chaldean, Assyrian, Arabic).

Overall with Saka and Turkic, the Eastern Eurasian/Mongoloid auDNA may not even exceed the 10% line. With other words: Kurds are still overwhelming West Asian people and our culture and language are native to Kurdistan.

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Originally Posted by MS85

I think the best model for Kurds should be Copper Age Iranians (Haji-Firuz-Chl) + Copper Age Armenians + some Saka/Scythians + some Turkic (Seljuks) + some Semitic (Chaldean, Assyrian, Arabic).

Overall with Saka and Turkic, the Eastern Eurasian/Mongoloid auDNA may not even exceed the 10% line. With other words: Kurds are still overwhelming West Asian people and our culture and language are native to Kurdistan.

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Sounds reasonable. We probably got most of our EHG, E Eurasian, and R1a from the east

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Originally Posted by MS85

Iran, Iranians or Persians have much more 'Mongoloid' DNA than Kurds/Kurdistan. Turco-Persian history has been recorded.

But I do agree with the rest that Kurds don't have much of E.Eurasian auDNA. Most in Kurds is from the Scythians..

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Persians have as much mongoloid dna as Kurds. The only Iranic group that possesses the most mongoloid dna are Tajiks

Anyway, Persians and Kurds score nearly the same on all genetic results and cluster together on most PCA plots.

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Originally Posted by MS85

Like I said, Tajiks were originally PERSIANS from Iran and later migrated into Central Asia and mixed with the local Turco-Mongoloid people full of R1a.

Indic and Eastern Iranian tribes got their steppes from the native Turco-Mongoloid people int he Steppes and Scythians.

Sintashta had NOTHING to do with the Iranic people. There is nothing Iranic about Sintashta. Sintashta were just were bunch of monkeys who were later assimilated by Turco-Mongoloid people and then they disappeared forever.

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Tajiks DONT CLUSTER with Persians from Iran on any PCA plots, nor do they score the same on any autosomal results. What part of dont cluster dont you fucking understand?