Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 2

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Originally Posted by Sora

Yes, Kırşehir & Kırıkkale have more Gedrosian + South Asian than regular Turk. I guess it's due to Iranian ancestry as you said. And the Gedrosian + South Asian ancestry grows up as we go to Eastern provinces such as Sivas, Erzincan, Elazığ, Kahramanmaraş, Malatya etc. Not to mention Kars & Iğdır because those are mainly Azeri so it's normal they score more Gedrosian + South Asian

Also the cause of Iranian ancestry can be told like those:
1) They came from Khorasan or Azerbaijan as Bender1999 said
2) Some Seljuk Sultans or Anatolian "bey"s married to Iranian women (but most Anatolian Seljuk Sultans married to Greek & Georgian women)
3) Some Iranians came to Anatolia alongside with Turks (for example: Rumi) and they mixed with each other

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Thanks I was wondering because a lot of Eastern cities don't have more Gedrosian+South Asian than Kirsehir which is on level with Kurdish+Turkish mixed cities like Erzincan.
Despite this the East Eurasian is still relatively high.

For example compare with it's cities to the east (Gedrosian + South_Asian averages)

Kirsehir: 17.00 + 1.69
Kayseri: 14.83 + 1.31
Nigde: 13.63 + 1.40
Kahranmaras: 16.71 + 1.49
Erzincan: 17.05 + 1.44
Sivas: 16.74 + 1.49

Obviously cities with big Kurdish populations have similar and higher numbers but they also have less East Eurasian

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Originally Posted by Leto

Do you think you are mostly "assimilated"?

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No, but predominantly(at least 70%) Anatolian due to where I'm from. Unfortunately I have to save too much money and wait a year more for taking dna test. I really wonder my results, and I'll share with you first if I take dna test. But I can guesstimate more and less; I may come out as 50%-60% West Asian(Caucasian + Gedrosian) + 15%-25% European(including Med) + 8%-12% Mongoloid, because I've seen some Tokat results and they've came out so.

As ancestry; I'll probably come out as 70%-75% Anatolian & 25%-30% Central Asian as most Tokat Turks are*

*I took Gokturk samples as example

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Originally Posted by Kyp Snow

Thanks I was wondering because a lot of Eastern cities don't have more Gedrosian+South Asian than Kirsehir which is on level with Kurdish+Turkish mixed cities like Erzincan.
Despite this the East Eurasian is still relatively high.

For example compare with it's cities to the east (Gedrosian + South_Asian averages)

Kirsehir: 17.00 + 1.69
Kayseri: 14.83 + 1.31
Nigde: 13.63 + 1.40
Kahranmaras: 16.71 + 1.49
Erzincan: 17.05 + 1.44
Sivas: 16.74 + 1.49

Obviously cities with big Kurdish populations have similar and higher numbers but they also have less East Eurasian

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Turkmen_Uzbekistan
19.54
13.24
0.18
2.04
6.54
12.86
5.08
0.05
6.49
13.96
19.93
0.07

19.54% Ged + 5.08% SA

Not sure if it's a predominantly Oghuz sample. Only 29% Mongoloid.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Turkmen_Uzbekistan
19.54
13.24
0.18
2.04
6.54
12.86
5.08
0.05
6.49
13.96
19.93
0.07

19.54% Ged + 5.08% SA

Not sure if it's a predominantly Oghuz sample. Only 29% Mongoloid.

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I know that Turkmens score a lot of those components but I just asked the question because both regions to the west and east of Kirsehir have less, that's why I was wondering.

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Originally Posted by Kyp Snow

Thanks I was wondering because a lot of Eastern cities don't have more Gedrosian+South Asian than Kirsehir which is on level with Kurdish+Turkish mixed cities like Erzincan.
Despite this the East Eurasian is still relatively high.

For example compare with it's cities to the east (Gedrosian + South_Asian averages)

Kirsehir: 17.00 + 1.69
Kayseri: 14.83 + 1.31
Nigde: 13.63 + 1.40
Kahranmaras: 16.71 + 1.49
Erzincan: 17.05 + 1.44
Sivas: 16.74 + 1.49

Obviously cities with big Kurdish populations have similar and higher numbers but they also have less East Eurasian

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I don’t think the South Asian admix is atypical, but the Gedrosia is really high. Could also be just outliners.

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Originally Posted by Bender1999

I don’t think the South Asian admix is atypical, but the Gedrosia is really high. Could also be just outliners.

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Yes but these are averages so we have to go with it.

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Originally Posted by Sora

No, but predominantly(at least 70%) Anatolian due to where I'm from. Unfortunately I have to save too much money and wait a year more for taking dna test. I really wonder my results, and I'll share with you first if I take dna test. But I can guesstimate more and less; I may come out as 50%-60% West Asian(Caucasian + Gedrosian) + 15%-25% European(including Med) + 8%-12% Mongoloid, because I've seen some Tokat results and they've came out so.

As ancestry; I'll probably come out as 70%-75% Anatolian & 25%-30% Central Asian as most Tokat Turks are*

*I took Gokturk samples as example

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Well, Dr. Oz is only 6.4% Mongoloid on Dodecad

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.47
2 Gedrosia 14.06
3 North_European 13.35
4 Southwest_Asian 13.02
5 Atlantic_Med 12.12
6 Siberian 3.06
7 East_Asian 2.03
8 South_Asian 1.31
9 Southeast_Asian 1.3
10 Northwest_African 1.2

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...dmatch-results!

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Originally Posted by Kyp Snow

Yes but these are averages so we have to go with it.

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And it is also interesting, the most mongoloid one of Kirsehir has the most Gedrosian admix.

East Eurasian in red

Kirsehir: 17.00 + 1.69 (9.96)
Kayseri: 14.83 + 1.31 (7.69)
Nigde: 13.63 + 1.40 (9.29)
Kahranmaras: 16.71 + 1.49 (9.39)
Erzincan: 17.05 + 1.44 (4.37) (Large Kurdish population)
Sivas: 16.74 + 1.49 (7.96)

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Originally Posted by Bender1999

Kirsehir was, like konya(you named Rumi) one if the cultural hotspots of Anatolia in 11-15th century. The city was called Gülsehir(city of roses/flowers) , the nomadic and village people call it kır şehri(other say the name comes from Timur) because of the landscape. For a important city you need some officials, which were mostly persian speaking. Also scholars and preachers were sometimes of full or partly persian ancestry(Rumi was for example half Tadjik half noble Turkic ancestry). But how or even whether they left any genetic traces, thats the question.

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I guess, according to results, they're mainly settled those areas. Because a pure mix of Oghuz + Anatolian wouldn't have that much Gedrosian + South Asian.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Turkmen_Uzbekistan
19.54
13.24
0.18
2.04
6.54
12.86
5.08
0.05
6.49
13.96
19.93
0.07

19.54% Ged + 5.08% SA

Not sure if it's a predominantly Oghuz sample.

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Here are individual results of Bulgarian, Greek(Cretan & Cappadocian), Turkish(Anatolian & Balkan), Turkmens(Ashgabat, Uzbekistan & Afghan) & Uzbeks

https://abload.de/img/adsz22eu6.png

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Originally Posted by Leto

Well, Dr. Oz is only 6.4% Mongoloid on Dodecad

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.47
2 Gedrosia 14.06
3 North_European 13.35
4 Southwest_Asian 13.02
5 Atlantic_Med 12.12
6 Siberian 3.06
7 East_Asian 2.03
8 South_Asian 1.31
9 Southeast_Asian 1.3
10 Northwest_African 1.2

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I've seen his results before, but he's from Konya(9% Mongoloid on average) & half Circassian(they have 3%-10% Mongoloid and are 5% on average). I'm full Turkish(indeed I have 1/8 Meskhetian & 1/4 Kürtün Chepni ancestry) from Tokat, So I think that I'll have more Mongoloid than him, but still can't know without taking dna test. Oh God! Why I have no money and have to be at least 18 for this? :(