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10-16-2020, 05:12 PM
Amon

10 Japanese kits

Code:

J1,0,4.73,0,10.38,0,0,0.7,0.01,0,84.18,0,0 J2,0,5.81,0,9.97,0,0,0,0,0,84.19,0,0 J3,0,4.38,0,9.56,0,0,0.78,0,0,85.24,0,0 J4,0,4.31,0,10.07,0,0,0.37,0,0,85.19,0,0.05 J5,0,5.34,0.12,15.43,0,0,0,0,0,78.91,0,0.21 J6,0,1.85,0.08,4.11,0,0,6.6,0,0,87.35,0,0 J7,0,4.14,0.60,14.93,0,0,0,0,0.57,79.76,0,0 J8,0,1.95,0,6.41,0,0,5.7,0,0,85.95,0,0 J9,0,4.66,0,9.08,0,0,1.35,0,0,84.9,0,0 J10,0,3.31,0.26,12.3,0,0,0,0,0,84.12,0,0

Avg: Japanese,0,4.05,0.1,10.23,0,0,1.55,0.00,0.06,83.99 ,0,0.02

Distance to: Japanese
3.47620483 Korean
13.71986152 Naga
19.76139165 Tu
20.65246232 Xibo
22.79960526 Mongola
24.33039252 Chinese

Target: Japanese
Distance: 1.5115% / 1.51154055
84.6 Korean
9.8 Naga
5.6 Daur
10-16-2020, 05:14 PM
Amon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

Do Han, Japanese, Korean and Vietnamese if you can.

The Korean avg is pretty good IMO.
10-16-2020, 05:17 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amon

The Korean avg is pretty good IMO.

Do actual Koreans get Korean as their first pop with a small distance? If they don't, it's no good.

Also, 1.55% South Asian for Japan sounds doubtful.
10-16-2020, 05:23 PM
Amon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

Do actual Koreans get Korean as their first pop with a small distance? If they don't, it's no good.

Also, 1.55% South Asian for Japan sounds doubtful.

I can make a new avg for the Japs excluding the outliers - with likely Ainu ancestry - that's giving them SA. What say you?

I'll look into more Korean kits. Have you any?
10-16-2020, 05:26 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amon

I can make a new avg for the Japs excluding the outliers - with likely Ainu ancestry - that's giving them SA. What say you?

I'll look into more Korean kits. Have you any?

Yeah, I think most Japs don't have that, so I suggest you remove that outlier.

I haven't collected East Asian kits on purpose. Some occasional ones here and there.
10-16-2020, 05:34 PM
Amon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

Yeah, I think most Japs don't have that, so I suggest you remove that outlier.

New avg after excluding two outliers J6 and J8: Japanese,0,4.58,0.12,11.47,0,0,0.4,0.00,0.07,83.31 ,0,0.03

Distance to: Japanese
4.02313311 Korean
12.68279149 Naga
18.66732975 Tu
19.73086415 Xibo
21.73806799 Mongola
23.00038261 Chinese

Target: Japanese
Distance: 0.3378% / 0.33781019 | ADC: 0.25x
79.8 Korean
10.6 Naga
9.6 Xibo
10-17-2020, 01:35 PM
J. Ketch

This should be my last update of England and Wales K13/K15 for a while. Also made new averages for Connacht and Ulster, and a national average for England from all my references, which can replace the ones that are already there if you want (pretty sure it's more accurate).

K13

refs:

English - 231 (from North, Midlands and South)
English_North - 85
English_Midlands - 71
English_Southeast - 41
Irish_Munster - 38
Ulster_British - 27
Irish_Connacht - 21
Irish_Ulster - 21

Code:

English,49.92,23.49,13.55,5.65,3.78,0.70,1.08,0.14,0.26,0.55,0.41,0.22,0.19 English_Midlands,49.73,23.34,13.70,5.59,4.17,0.70,1.00,0.19,0.25,0.49,0.37,0.23,0.18 English_North,50.47,23.89,13.16,5.68,3.22,0.66,1.07,0.09,0.29,0.62,0.41,0.17,0.20 English_Southeast,49.15,23.27,13.63,5.91,4.21,0.76,1.11,0.17,0.27,0.56,0.44,0.26,0.19 Irish_Connacht,52.82,23.41,11.97,7.10,0.94,0.21,1.55,0.11,0.30,0.88,0.24,0.23,0.11 Irish_Munster,52.71,22.98,12.26,6.93,1.52,0.35,1.36,0.21,0.30,0.77,0.23,0.14,0.17 Irish_Ulster,53.28,22.32,12.60,7.05,0.84,0.56,1.49,0.10,0.32,0.88,0.32,0.05,0.14 Ulster_British,51.30,23.24,13.14,7.00,1.73,0.58,1.22,0.05,0.17,0.75,0.53,0.11,0.09

K15

refs:

English - 235
English_North - 86
English_Midlands - 71
Irish_Munster - 45
English_Southeast - 44
Welsh - 35
Ulster_British - 27
Irish_Connacht - 25
Irish_Ulster - 22

Code:

English,36.13,28.23,10.12,8.75,9.42,3.75,1.30,0.48,0.72,0.05,0.09,0.30,0.24,0.17,0.13 English_Midlands,36.14,28.03,10.01,8.68,9.50,3.82,1.49,0.56,0.66,0.06,0.07,0.26,0.20,0.18,0.13 English_North,36.62,28.38,10.27,8.93,9.02,3.63,0.95,0.40,0.70,0.03,0.11,0.34,0.26,0.15,0.13 English_Southeast,35.43,27.99,10.05,8.83,9.53,4.12,1.65,0.52,0.74,0.07,0.11,0.31,0.26,0.17,0.14 Irish_Connacht,37.84,30.38,9.02,9.26,7.24,3.80,0.08,0.08,1.04,0.04,0.12,0.68,0.14,0.12,0.07 Irish_Munster,37.12,30.05,9.80,8.52,7.53,4.57,0.20,0.17,0.91,0.08,0.16,0.48,0.14,0.07,0.12 Irish_Ulster,36.62,31.10,9.06,8.71,7.60,4.46,0.04,0.28,1.11,0.06,0.09,0.58,0.14,0.03,0.03 Ulster_British,37.69,28.74,9.10,9.21,8.30,4.48,0.38,0.30,0.80,0.03,0.05,0.44,0.29,0.03,0.06 Welsh,36.79,29.22,9.77,9.00,9.06,4.02,0.24,0.17,0.63,0.02,0.16,0.36,0.28,0.13,0.05 - ignore

Could you also remove the duplicate 'Southeast_English' average in K15 Lucas, seeing as it's already been removed from K13? Thanks.
10-17-2020, 02:22 PM
Dunai

Quote:

Originally Posted by Creoda

This should be my last update of England and Wales K13/K15 for a while. Also made new averages for Connacht and Ulster, and a national average for England from all my references, which can replace the ones that are already there if you want (pretty sure it's more accurate).

K13

refs:

English - 231 (from North, Midlands and South)
English_North - 85
English_Midlands - 71
English_Southeast - 41
Irish_Munster - 38
Ulster_British - 27
Irish_Connacht - 21
Irish_Ulster - 21

Code:

English,49.92,23.49,13.55,5.65,3.78,0.70,1.08,0.14,0.26,0.55,0.41,0.22,0.19 English_Midlands,49.73,23.34,13.70,5.59,4.17,0.70,1.00,0.19,0.25,0.49,0.37,0.23,0.18 English_North,50.47,23.89,13.16,5.68,3.22,0.66,1.07,0.09,0.29,0.62,0.41,0.17,0.20 English_Southeast,49.15,23.27,13.63,5.91,4.21,0.76,1.11,0.17,0.27,0.56,0.44,0.26,0.19 Irish_Connacht,52.82,23.41,11.97,7.10,0.94,0.21,1.55,0.11,0.30,0.88,0.24,0.23,0.11 Irish_Munster,52.71,22.98,12.26,6.93,1.52,0.35,1.36,0.21,0.30,0.77,0.23,0.14,0.17 Irish_Ulster,53.28,22.32,12.60,7.05,0.84,0.56,1.49,0.10,0.32,0.88,0.32,0.05,0.14 Ulster_British,51.30,23.24,13.14,7.00,1.73,0.58,1.22,0.05,0.17,0.75,0.53,0.11,0.09

K15

refs:

English - 235
English_North - 86
English_Midlands - 71
Irish_Munster - 45
English_Southeast - 44
Welsh - 35
Ulster_British - 27
Irish_Connacht - 25
Irish_Ulster - 22

Code:

English,36.13,28.23,10.12,8.75,9.42,3.75,1.30,0.48,0.72,0.05,0.09,0.30,0.24,0.17,0.13 English_Midlands,36.14,28.03,10.01,8.68,9.50,3.82,1.49,0.56,0.66,0.06,0.07,0.26,0.20,0.18,0.13 English_North,36.62,28.38,10.27,8.93,9.02,3.63,0.95,0.40,0.70,0.03,0.11,0.34,0.26,0.15,0.13 English_Southeast,35.43,27.99,10.05,8.83,9.53,4.12,1.65,0.52,0.74,0.07,0.11,0.31,0.26,0.17,0.14 Irish_Connacht,37.84,30.38,9.02,9.26,7.24,3.80,0.08,0.08,1.04,0.04,0.12,0.68,0.14,0.12,0.07 Irish_Munster,37.12,30.05,9.80,8.52,7.53,4.57,0.20,0.17,0.91,0.08,0.16,0.48,0.14,0.07,0.12 Irish_Ulster,36.62,31.10,9.06,8.71,7.60,4.46,0.04,0.28,1.11,0.06,0.09,0.58,0.14,0.03,0.03 Ulster_British,37.69,28.74,9.10,9.21,8.30,4.48,0.38,0.30,0.80,0.03,0.05,0.44,0.29,0.03,0.06 Welsh,36.79,29.22,9.77,9.00,9.06,4.02,0.24,0.17,0.63,0.02,0.16,0.36,0.28,0.13,0.05

Could you also remove the duplicate 'Southeast_English' average in K15 Lucas, seeing as it's already been removed from K13? Thanks.

You also seem to have quite many samples for making a new Irish average.
10-17-2020, 02:25 PM
J. Ketch

My British Isles averages marked in red:

K13
https://i.postimg.cc/GbZvHcWB/k13updatedoct18.png

K15
https://i.postimg.cc/vQF6G0nf/k15updatedoct18.png

I think they look pretty logical. I suspect the Southwest_English average on Gedmatch is Cornish.
10-17-2020, 02:35 PM
J. Ketch

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunai

You also seem to have quite many samples for making a new Irish average.

I do, however they're too biased towards Munster, and Western Ireland generally. I have the least references from Leinster, which has the largest population.