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# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 89.83
2 E_Eurasian 8.62
3 SSA 1.56

Distance to: Sterling
1.45746355 Adygei
1.66237782 Kurd_C
2.38665037 Chechen
2.68315113 Mordovian
2.85742891 Finnish
3.12176232 Kurd_N
3.21715713 Russian
3.60833757 Iranian
3.97368846 Turkish
4.76411587 Balkar
5.00860260 Loschbour
5.30331972 Abkhasian
5.69087867 Georgian_Jew
5.96279297 Estonian
6.59600637 Belarusian
6.80955211 Iranian_Jew
7.46636458 Ukrainian
7.61400683 Georgian
7.62672276 Armenian
7.70948118 Assyrian
8.02451868 Ashkenazi_Jew
8.27652705 Lithuanian
8.30460716 Iraqi_Jew
8.38652491 Hungarian
8.65517764 Bulgarian

Distance to: Sterling
0.00936314 69.80% French_South + 30.20% Kurd_SE
0.00968591 82.60% Kurd_N + 17.40% Tajik_Pomiri
0.01256662 36.00% Balochi + 64.00% Bulgarian
0.01555892 72.00% Armenian + 28.00% Kalash
0.01634371 81.60% Sardinian + 18.40% Tharu
0.01835075 15.00% Kattunayakkan + 85.00% LBK_EN
0.02062620 28.00% Greek + 72.00% Turkish
0.02500483 69.60% Spanish + 30.40% Tajik
0.02802445 72.60% Albanian + 27.40% Kurd_SE
0.03640886 34.20% Georgian + 65.80% Turkish
0.04125236 12.40% Birhor + 87.60% Sardinian
0.04421266 69.40% Bergamo + 30.60% Kurd_SE
0.04458094 41.00% Brahui + 59.00% French
0.04737331 13.60% Gond + 86.40% Sardinian
0.04775663 13.80% Kalash + 86.20% Kurd_N
0.05119504 19.40% Kurumba + 80.60% Sardinian
0.05707915 24.20% LBK_EN + 75.80% Turkish
0.05725189 79.40% LBK_EN + 20.60% Malli
0.05728944 92.80% Georgian + 7.20% Onge
0.05772924 15.80% Irula + 84.20% LBK_EN
0.05972660 85.40% LBK_EN + 14.60% Nihali
0.06097834 88.40% Greek + 11.60% Paniyas
0.06219973 18.40% Piramalai + 81.60% Sardinian
0.06365361 73.60% Loschbour + 26.40% Makrani
0.06482500 66.00% Armenian + 34.00% Tajik_Pomiri

(Turkish)
1 W_Eurasian 85.11
2 E_Eurasian 12.62
3 SSA 2.27

That's more East Eurasian than I expected and much-much more what 23andMe gives me:

West Eurasian 93.83%
East Eurasian 6.17%

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Originally Posted by Dunai

That's more East Eurasian than I expected and much-much more what 23andMe gives me:

West Eurasian 93.83%
East Eurasian 6.17%

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The same with me. In my case it also inexplicably added SSA which I don't get in FTDNA, MyHeritage, Dodekad or Eurogenes.

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Originally Posted by Sterling Archer

The same with me. In my case it also inexplicably added SSA which I don't get in FTDNA, MyHeritage, Dodekad or Eurogenes.

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It's probably because "West Eurasian" here is based on LBK/Stuttgart and most of the other components in general you would score in other calculators except the up Paleo and mesolithic are a bit closer to African than LBK. Like CHG, Iran_N,.. so the K3 reflects that but even Europeans can score low amount of SSA here, and all score East Eurasians, as even the mesolithic is still a bit more oriented towards Eastern Eurasia than LBK. North Italians from Bergamo are the closest to 100% West Eurasians, followed by some Basques i think in this test.

Those values are always defined by what you compare yourself to. LBK is just extremely non African/Non East Asian (and non Oceanian too).

I also score 1.75% East Eurasian or something like that, and i usually score none or very low East Eurasian (less than 1% Siberian on K13 for example).

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Originally Posted by Petalpusher

It's probably because "West Eurasian" here is based on LBK/Stuttgart and most of the other components in general you would score in other calculators except the up Paleo and mesolithic are a bit closer to African than LBK. Like CHG, Iran_N,.. so the K3 reflects that but even Europeans can score low amount of SSA here, and all score East Eurasians, as even the mesolithic is still a bit more oriented towards Eastern Eurasia than LBK. North Italians from Bergamo are the closest to 100% West Eurasians, followed by some Basques i think in this test.

Those values are always defined by what you compare yourself to. LBK is just extremely non African/Non East Asian (and non Oceanian too).

I also score 1.75% East Eurasian or something like that, and i usually score none or very low East Eurasian (less than 1% Siberian on K13 for example).

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Yeah, I just scrolled back and saw that many score some SSA and hefty amount of East Eurasia. This calculator seems to be more for fun than anything else.

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Originally Posted by Sterling Archer

Yeah, I just scrolled back and saw that many score some SSA and hefty amount of East Eurasia. This calculator seems to be more for fun than anything else.

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Yeah don't take it too much at face value if you score 1.5%. You have a Portuguese here scoring 7% SSA, while this level is clearly real, he doesn't get half of that in more regular calculators. The test is just very prone to give SSA and East Eurasian.

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 63.08
2 SSA 28.75
3 E_Eurasian 8.18


Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
3 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Yemen @ 16.225519
2 BedouinA @ 25.730299
3 Ethiopian_Jew @ 26.021273
4 Makrani @ 28.733084
5 Jordanian @ 30.123253
6 Palestinian @ 31.264370
7 Brahui @ 31.482500
8 Syrian @ 31.505838
9 Balochi @ 31.594902
10 Kurd_SE @ 31.658857
11 Yemenite_Jew @ 32.870586
12 Saudi @ 33.181957
13 Lebanese @ 33.801582
14 Sindhi @ 34.030949
15 Pashtun_Afghan @ 34.360817
16 Pathan @ 34.414604
17 Iranian @ 34.946983
18 Tajik @ 35.035660
19 Kshatriya @ 35.054653
20 Tajik_Pomiri @ 35.055775

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Ethiopian_Jew +50% Makrani @ 1.518234
2 50% Brahui +50% Ethiopian_Jew @ 2.756066
3 50% Balochi +50% Ethiopian_Jew @ 2.843013
4 50% Balkar +50% Somali @ 2.873680
5 50% Russian +50% Somali @ 3.156362
6 50% Finnish +50% Somali @ 3.297506
7 50% Mordovian +50% Somali @ 3.379199
8 50% Somali +50% Turkish @ 3.759086
9 50% Adygei +50% Somali @ 4.225792
10 50% Ethiopian_Jew +50% Tajik_Pomiri @ 4.547545
11 50% Iranian +50% Somali @ 4.784093
12 50% Somali +50% Tajik_Pomiri @ 4.918125
13 50% Chechen +50% Somali @ 4.919600
14 50% Ethiopian_Jew +50% Kalash @ 5.205587
15 50% Ethiopian_Jew +50% Pashtun_Afghan @ 5.257970
16 50% Kurd_C +50% Somali @ 5.440540
17 50% Ethiopian_Jew +50% Pathan @ 5.651394
18 50% Kurd_N +50% Somali @ 5.995536
19 50% Loschbour +50% Somali @ 6.086869
20 50% Brahui +50% Somali @ 6.115414


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese +25% Luhya +25% Sindhi @ 0.000000

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Originally Posted by Sterling Archer

Yeah, I just scrolled back and saw that many score some SSA and hefty amount of East Eurasia. This calculator seems to be more for fun than anything else.

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Wrong. Apparently you have no idea how all K3 calculators work. While 23andme measures ancestry in the last 200 years, all K3 calculators measure ancestry in the last 10,000 years (E Eurasian, SSA, W Eurasian).

Also, if you read qpAdm results published in papers such as Harvard you’ll notice a statement such as “Mbuti or SSA includes Basal Eurasian “. Same applies here. SSA measures African+Extra Basal Eurasian not captured by W Eurasian component.

Even though the calculator can be improved, it’s still the best calculator at Gedmatch for measuring TOTAL admixture over last 10,000 years. I believe there are better ones but they are not free at GenePlaza.com

Read this from the Paleolithic Caucasus paper page 52 explaining what Mbuti is in the qpAdm results

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/xUsEQoI.jpg[/IMG]

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Originally Posted by Zoro

Wrong. Apparently you have no idea how all K3 calculators work. While 23andme measures ancestry in the last 200 years, all K3 calculators measure ancestry in the last 10,000 years (E Eurasian, SSA, W Eurasian).

Also, if you read qpAdm results published in papers such as Harvard you’ll notice a statement such as “Mbuti or SSA includes Basal Eurasian “. Same applies here. SSA measures African+Extra Basal Eurasian not captured by W Eurasian component.

Even though the calculator can be improved, it’s still the best calculator at Gedmatch for measuring TOTAL admixture over last 10,000 years. I believe there are better ones but they are not free at GenePlaza.com

Read this from the Paleolithic Caucasus paper page 52 explaining what Mbuti is in the qpAdm results

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I kinda agree with your conclusion, since this calculator takes into account the most archaic admixture in your DNA, and based on thousands of years back there was quite a lot of movement all across the globe between isolated people at some point. Since it strictly focuses on 3 major components I don't think it's really that unreasonable what archaic percentages it offers. As a Hungarian I could well see why I do have 6% ancient East Eurasian admixture, since based on the history of the region where I'm from this very well correlates. There were also plenty of African slaves in Europe since ancient times, so not surprising at all when so many people score little bit of SSA.