Moldovan/Romanian GEDmatch Results v2

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Originally Posted by Leto

Which community are you talking about? That high Baltic Moldovan from the North? Pretty sure most people are like him unless they are transplants from other regions.

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These are all North Moldovans of unmixed heritage. I am changing the colour of the text to red for those whose ancestors must have assimilated East Slavic minorities.

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Origin	N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan	N_Atlantic+Baltic
_Ocnita	25.71	33.18	17.93	8.07	10.11	2.87	0.67	0	1.40	0	0	0	0	58.89
_Ocnita	27.82	33.86	14.65	5.86	12.83	0	0.56	1.14	0.51	1.49	0.26	1.01	0	61.68
_Ocnita	23.63	32.50	17.85	7.85	14.19	0	0.87	1.52	0	1.42	0.18	0	0	56.13
_Ocnita	25.95	29.20	17.32	9.88	11.62	2.80	0	1.67	0.24	0.53	0.73	0	0.06	55.15
_Briceni	25.05	32.68	12.58	12.66	13.32	0.16	0.10	1.33	0.85	0.70	0	0.23	0.35	57.73
_Briceni	22.85	36.30	13.11	9.12	13.06	1.59	0	0	2.69	1.27	0	0	0	59.15
_Edinet	20.49	37.99	14.24	10.49	12.58	1.15	0	0	2.42	0.33	0	0	0.31	58.48
_Edinet	24.08	31.35	16.41	11.30	10.19	2.94	0	0	2.35	0.23	1.04	0.12	0	55.43
_Glodeni	21.77	34.40	15.61	12.12	9.73	1.40	0	0.83	2.20	1.11	0.82	0	0	56.17
_Floresti_1/4Ukrainian	24.07	36.26	9.74	8.78	16.00	1.82	0	2.47	0.19	0.54	0.12	0	0	60.33
_Balti	28.97	31.72	14.36	5.12	13.53	2.10	0.74	1.39	1.35	0	0.72	0	0	60.69
_Balti	25.72	33.02	15.85	7.24	11.12	2.58	1.28	0.51	1.65	0	0.68	0.36	0	58.74
_Soldanesti	22.78	33.73	15.02	8.09	15.57	0.30	0.50	0.55	1.55	0.18	0.30	0	1.42	56.51
_1/2Falesti_1/2Chisinau	24.90	34.32	14.54	5.42	14.28	2.29	1.58	0	2.07	0	0.34	0	0.25	59.22
_Falesti	26.22	34.90	12.85	10.54	10.96	1.08	0.09	1.83	0	0.52	0.41	0	0.59	61.12
_Rezina	28.97	34.84	12.39	7.67	12.05	0.73	0.44	0	1.37	0	0.51	0.71	0.34	63.81
_Eurogenes	25.76	33.38	14.65	8.61	11.03	1.75	0.40	1.16	0.95	0	1.62	0	0.69	59.14
_Balti	24.58	31.08	13.08	6.06	16.71	3.33	1.41	0	2.32	1.43	0	0	0	55.66
_Balti	22.22	35.15	17.59	12.03	7.30	1.37	1.25	1.49	0	0.81	0.09	0.42	0.28	57.37
_Balti	26.86	31.42	17.53	9.84	10.26	0	0	0.55	1.85	1.00	0.14	0.11	0.45	58.28
_Balti	21.11	32.22	15.74	9.12	16.60	2.12	0	0.81	1.11	0.03	0	0.93	0.20	53.33
_Balti	27.89	28.60	15.36	10.43	13.25	0.43	0	0.20	3.51	0	0.33	0	0	56.49
_Balti	26.74	30.55	12.91	10.08	14.54	0.86	1.10	0.20	2.93	0	0.09	0	0	57.29
_Balti	24.50	30.63	15.90	8.79	15.10	0	0.38	0.09	1.22	0.93	1.08	0	1.38	55.13
_Balti	24.09	32.64	12.57	7.50	13.82	1.08	3.54	0	2.17	0.86	0.88	0.49	0.36	56.73
_Balti	26.10	29.55	15.22	10.17	15.75	0	1.18	1.62	0	0.39	0	0.02	0	55.65
_Balti	23.29	32.20	12.93	7.08	18.01	0.79	1.47	0	0.85	2.61	0	0	0.77	55.49
_Balti	22.65	36.26	13.43	10.10	11.95	0.03	0.81	0	1.38	1.56	0.72	0	1.12	58.91
_Balti	25.83	27.54	16.04	11.41	12.98	2.80	1.24	0	1.25	0.00	0.91	0	0	53.37
_Balti	28.04	32.24	15.49	6.59	13.52	1.22	0.08	0	2.23	0.42	0.17	0	0	60.28
_Balti	23.81	34.31	12.54	6.21	16.13	1.21	2.19	0.86	2.42	0	0.30	0	0	58.12
_Balti	24.72	27.82	17.45	10.27	13.86	0	3.07	0	2.47	0	0.34	0	0	52.54
_Balti	18.18	36.07	14.32	12.57	10.84	2.87	0.06	1.99	1.21	0	0.70	0.65	0.55	54.25
_Balti	23.47	32.69	13.87	7.89	16.16	0	1.20	0	3.13	0	0.55	1.03	0	56.16
_Balti	24.56	31.94	17.63	6.74	13.24	0.97	2.04	0.68	0.94	0	0.60	0	0.66	56.50
_Balti	23.13	36.19	11.05	9.44	16.58	0	1.15	0	1.84	0.16	0	0	0.45	59.32
_Balti	27.74	31.59	13.10	6.73	15.41	2.30	1.12	0.97	0	0.66	0	0.38	0	59.33
_Balti	24.22	25.35	14.14	12.99	16.10	4.36	0.31	1.40	0.72	0	0.42	0	0	49.57
_Balti	24.09	34.13	11.71	8.79	14.63	3.51	1.25	0	1.51	0.07	0	0	0.30	58.22
_Balti	25.19	33.48	11.17	9.90	12.99	1.06	2.56	0	3.06	0	0.60	0	0	58.67
_Balti	27.62	29.15	13.57	8.81	13.32	3.43	2.95	0.30	0.37	0	0.47	0	0	56.77
_Balti	27.07	28.68	13.68	9.21	14.50	2.21	0.92	0	1.47	1.46	0.34	0	0.46	55.75
_Balti	22.03	33.01	13.83	8.75	17.44	0.67	0.97	0.00	2.96	0	0.34	0	0	55.04
_Balti	24.52	36.71	16.02	7.75	10.27	0.89	1.08	0.72	2.03	0	0	0	0	61.23
_Balti	26.21	36.67	13.51	6.70	11.85	1.81	0	0.12	1.81	1.31	0	0	0	62.88

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I wouldn't have any objections to those scoring more than 60%, if literally all my half Slavic and half Moldovans from the North scored close to that.
You can see that below.


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Origin	N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan	N_Atlantic+Baltic
_1/2Drochia_1/2Polish	22.11	39.39	12.60	7.73	8.94	2.67	3.34	0.58	0.76	1.18	0.69	0	0	61.5
_10/16Ukrainian_6/16Moldovan_Balti	27.18	36.15	11.95	9.09	9.72	2.43	0.98	0	2.06	0	0.22	0.23	0	63.33
_1/2Drochia_1/2Ukrainian	25.56	37.62	13.38	6.59	11.84	0.66	1.22	1.12	0.60	0.38	0.42	0	0.60	63.18
_1/2Russian_1/2Moldovan_Edinet	24.12	37.75	12.57	3.55	14.93	2.29	0.71	0.43	0.48	3.17	0	0	0	61.87

</google-sheets-html-origin>There are others who also score in the 60-63% range who are halfies, but they are from Chisinau. This is not the case for those above, where they originate in the North.

Local Ukrainians from the North and Transnistria are also not that far off, with one exception. All are confirmed through their family trees and contacts, so I am not just guessing from the surname.

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Origin	N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan	N_Atlantic+Baltic
_Ukrainian_Ribnita	24.82	40.06	14.14	5.78	8.66	1.42	1.15	0	1.83	0.97	0	0.65	0.49	64.88
_Ukrainian_Balti	23.24	42.33	14.39	7.53	6.33	0	1.22	0	2.70	0.62	0.07	1.10	0.47	65.57
_Ukrainian_Floresti	29.08	43.59	11.28	4.32	8.26	0	1.73	0	0	0.99	0.30	0	0.45	72.67
_Ukrainian_Riscani	25.50	39.14	13.68	10.09	7.49	0.57	0.24	0.75	1.75	0	0.39	0.10	0.30	64.64
_Ukrainian_Dubasari	24.49	40.51	12.86	5.03	10.83	1.66	1.63	1.55	0	0.54	0.12	0.77	0	65

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

Ei îs sudici că au gene sudice de la coloniștii balcanici, se vede și în mediile făute de tine pe regiuni. Expresia mea se referă la cum îi caracterizezi pe moldoveni în general, centrul și nordul nu au așa diferențe mari genetice, numai sudul, fără el moldovenii îs destul de omogeni, ceea ce nu-i de mirare.

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Doar pe tine si alti nebuni care isi masoara craniile ii deranjeaza ca cei de la sud is mai sudici, sau cei de la nord mai nordici si asa mai departe. Eu pur simplu le spun lucrurilor pe nume, asa cum ele sunt si fara bombonele.
N-avem nicio dovada ca cei din Caplani s-au amestecat cu popoarele din Balcani.
Ambii stim foarte bine ca gagauzii si bulgarii au venit dupa razboiul ruso-turc aici, ceea ce e destul de recent. Avem desigur satul cela din Basarabeasca, dar diferenta acolo e ca se vad originile colonizatorilor in familii si in dictionarul lui Arbore localitatea e mentionata ca colonie bulgara.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

Doar pe tine si alti nebuni care isi masoara craniile ii deranjeaza ca cei de la sud is mai sudici, sau cei de la nord mai nordici si asa mai departe. Eu pur simplu le spun lucrurilor pe nume, asa cum ele sunt si fara bombonele.

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Asta pentru că tu te identifici ca rumînoid, mie ca moldovan mă deranjează. Eu te rog frumos, nu mai borî moldovenii.

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

Asta pentru că tu te identifici ca rumînoid, mie ca moldovan mă deranjează. Eu te rog frumos, nu mai borî moldovenii.

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Eu is sigur ca majoritatea moldovenilor nu-s autisti.

From Chisinau (Ukrainian and Jewish mix)

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
22.65	31.64	13.12	5.13	21.19	2.28	0	1.44	2.24	0	0	0.09	0.22

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Compared to a 2/4 Russian, 1/4 Moldovan/Romanian and 1/4 Jewish

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
24.20	34.21	14.76	5.73	15.71	0.68	2.65	0.52	1.54	0	0	0	0

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Distance to:	Chisinau_ind
6.82247023	Pomak_Plovdiv
7.74417200	Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
8.24380980	Serb_Serbia_South&East
8.48469210	Romania_Moldavia_North
8.49279106	Romania_Maramures
8.50239378	Moldova_average
8.61359391	Moldova_Centre
8.74822839	Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
8.75460450	Serb_Serbia
8.89403171	Serb
9.03235850	Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
9.03634882	Serb_Serbia_West&Central
9.04463377	Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner
9.06225138	Bosniak
9.12664232	Bosniak_Sarajevo
9.13830947	Serb_Croatia_Lika
9.14039933	Bulgaria_Northwestern
9.32978564	Serb_B&H
9.36963713	Serb_Croatia
9.44323038	Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
9.53353030	Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
9.59910933	Croat_B&H
9.61755166	Romania_Moldavia_South
9.62373109	Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
9.64991710	Croat_B&H_Bosnia

Distance to:	Chisinau_ind
8.61359391	Moldova_Centre
10.44431903	Moldova_South
11.35435159	Moldova_North
12.82306906	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
13.91399296	Moldova_South_Gagauzia
15.85208504	Moldova_Bulgarian
17.98628644	Moldova_Ukrainian
19.72761263	Ukrainian_Lviv
20.45938415	Ukrainian
25.31424303	Russian_Smolensk
28.70110102	Crimean_Tatar
29.22227062	Moldova_Jewish
29.43600177	Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
31.46243921	Russian_Pinega
36.26812099	Moldova_Roma

Target: Chisinau_ind
Distance: 4.6796% / 4.67962781 | ADC: 0.25x
71.8 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
28.2 Moldova_Jewish

-Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
Target: Chisinau_ind
Distance: 4.7822% / 4.78215501 | ADC: 0.25x
63.2 Moldova_Ukrainian
36.8 Moldova_Jewish

Distance to:	Chisinau_ind
7.20500520	Moldova_Nisporeni
7.43976478	Moldova_Soldanesti
8.31163642	Moldova_Ialoveni
8.39306261	Moldova_Eurogenes
8.49829983	Moldova_Balti
8.83547395	Moldova_Cimislia
8.86631265	Moldova_AneniiNoi
8.99340314	Moldova_Floresti
8.99824983	Moldova_Causeni
9.37019744	Moldova_Ungheni
9.39636632	Moldova_Hincesti
9.58402316	Moldova_Chisinau
10.11024233	Moldova_Falesti
10.52719811	Moldova_Briceni
10.55288112	Moldova_Calarasi
10.88141994	Moldova_Ocnita
11.01701411	Moldova_Straseni
11.55260144	Moldova_Telenesti
11.61751264	Moldova_StefanVoda
12.08427904	Moldova_Edinet
12.11577484	Moldova_Rezina
12.16277518	Moldova_Cahul
12.76440755	Moldova_Orhei
13.30001128	Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic
13.51438123	Moldova_Cantemir
13.88687150	Moldova_Transnistria
13.91399296	Moldova_Gagauzia
14.06744113	Moldova_Glodeni
15.85208504	Moldova_Bulgarian
17.98628644	Moldova_Ukrainian
29.22227062	Moldova_Jewish
36.26812099	Moldova_Roma

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

deranjează

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What does this mean? Looks like 'deranged' xD

Can you post the Dodecad components for the Chisinau mix? Rather high Mongoloid for his background (not extraordinary though as even full Jews can score 1-2%).

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Originally Posted by Leto

What does this mean? Looks like 'deranged' xD

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To bother

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Originally Posted by Leto

Can you post the Dodecad components for the Chisinau mix? Rather high Mongoloid for his background (not extraordinary though as even full Jews can score 1-2%).

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This person is from my project, so I don't have the GEDmatch kit.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

This person is from my project, so I don't have the GEDmatch kit.

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That's a cool-ass project. Do you think the Chisinau average would be representative for the country as a whole and the Balti one for the Northern part?