Dodecad k12b West & Central Asian results Vol 4.

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Originally Posted by Leto

I don't know man, but as far as I know light Azerbaijanis are pretty rare. I don't mean vaguely light-skinned but like that Turkish guy. North Caucasians, Western Turks and Georgians are lighter on average but even they are darker than an average Eastern European.
I'd like to see those guys to be honest.

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It is more common in certain areas than you think. For example norther part of the republic. For example, my dad is from Quba, Azerbaijan, and he has blond hair + green eyes.

The issue is that Azerbaijanis are much more heterogenous than those populations you named. There are plenty of people with light complexions, but it tends regional. Like in the North Azerbaijan, Derbent, but also sometimes can be found in Armenian and North Western Azeris.
I won't share pictures of my personal friends, but I can give you the following examples off the top of my head on the spot:

Erkin Gadirli (MP in parlament):
https://meclis.gov.az/news-dep.php?i...lang=en&cat=VI

Anadr Kreimov (Minster of Culture)This guy is from Agdam
https://atatv.az/uploads/posts/2021-...0_lv5a0401.jpg

This guy is Azerbaijani from Zagatala:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...8416611&type=3

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Originally Posted by Kyp

Blueeyed persons I more associate with citys like Khachmaz but it's rare even there of course.
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In the whole Caucasus the most common look is dark eyes + dark hair. This is without exception. Some regions can have slightly lighter complexion than others, but overall the dominant look will be brown eyes and brown hair.
Of course, in general, Caucasus people will still be of lighter build than people of Iran and Middle East.

Dunno about Yoruks, but the people I mentioned are real, but by no means the common look.

This one is from Gazakh (my buddy looks like him):

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid...00033917897008

Yoruks can be light this is normal.
but Kazakhs are Turkic + Mongolic so light Kazakhs are rare in my opinion.

@Sterling Archer
Interesting examples, very light. I wonder how much North European those people would score.

Ethnic Turk from Bitlis (Eastern Turkey):

Gedrosian: 18.92
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 1.96
Southeast_Asian: 2.01
Atlantic_Med: 8.65
North_European: 6.50
South_Asian: 2.96
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 12.44
East_Asian: 2.23
Caucasian: 43.76
Sub_Saharan: 0.57

Distance to: Turk_Bitlis
4.52551655 Turk_East
5.40775369 Udi_Azerbaijan
5.93218341 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.23202214 Zaza
6.68964125 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.24229245 Azerbaijani
7.41748610 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.73046570 Turk_Southeast
7.73733804 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.11157198 Iraq_Turkmen
8.14233996 Armenian_East
8.22970838 Kurd_Adygea
8.23604274 Turk_Central_East
8.78803732 Kurd_Sorani
9.09915930 Azeri_Jew
9.29487493 Yazidi
9.42980912 Armenian_West
9.58265621 Assyrian_North
9.77022006 Assyrian_South
9.95583748 Assyrian_West
10.33389085 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.67330314 Iranian_Jew
10.72217795 Turk_South
10.78473922 Turk_Ahiska
10.80192575 Mandean

Target: Turk_Bitlis
Distance: 1.4110% / 1.41095063 | ADC: 0.25x RC
71.8 Udi_Azerbaijan
19.8 Azeri_Jew
4.2 Garo
1.6 Algerian
1.4 BONDA
1.2 Turk_East

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Originally Posted by Leto

@Sterling Archer
Interesting examples, very light. I wonder how much North European those people would score.

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No idea. I am not sure it is always related.
One thing we can be sure is that Zagatala guy will probably score 16-20, as Azeris from there score high.

Others will score probably less. Agdam and Gazakh are not exactly known for high NE score. Then again neither is Gerogia, but there also, occasionally, you will see lighter build.

Other examples:
Famous composer Fikrat Amirov(from Ganja) and his mother Durdana:
https://imgur.com/Hvd3RSg

Poet Rasul Rza:
https://imgur.com/hd8gCQw

Also, the look is rather more common among Derbent region Azerbaijanis (Terekemes).

Edit: I can't believe I forgot to add the big guy and his family ;):

Heydar Aliyev (ex president):
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90...yev_(crop).jpg

Rafiga Aliyeva (Heydar's sister and the current president's aunt):
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90...0%B2%D0%B0.jpg

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Originally Posted by Altaylı

Yoruks can be light this is normal.
but Kazakhs are Turkic + heavily Mongolic so light Kazakhs are rare in my opinion.

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Genetik olarak Kazakların heavily Mongol admixed olduğu çürütüldü niye devam ettiriyorsunuz şunu

Taş çatlasın en kötü sonucuyla adamın yani Kazağın Türkic genetik mirası %30 civarında olur buda Türkiye de veya Balkanlarda bulabileceğin Kıpçak etkisinde olmayan olabildiğince az karışmış Oğuzlara eşittir Türkic genetik mirası %80 civarında olan Kazaklardan bahsetmiyorum bile yayınlamadı mı Kaspias şöyle tablolar ? Boşuna mı yayınladı adam şimdi ?

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Turk_Medieval: Gokturk DA89, Karluk, Kimak, Kipchak DA23, Kirgiz DA86.
Mongol_Medieval: I13176 and all other LM samples.

https://i.ibb.co/4t1MSg7/kazaklar.png

https://i.ibb.co/74CMLK8/pca2.png

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Hiç mi okumuyorsunuz bakmıyorsunuz ?

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Originally Posted by Edgü

Genetik olarak Kazakların heavily Mongol admixed olduğu çürütüldü niye devam ettiriyorsunuz şunu

Taş çatlasın en kötü sonucuyla adamın yani Kazağın Türkic genetik mirası %30 civarında olur buda Türkiye de veya Balkanlarda bulabileceğin Kıpçak etkisinde olmayan olabildiğince az karışmış Oğuzlara eşittir Türkic genetik mirası %80 civarında olan Kazaklardan bahsetmiyorum bile yayınlamadı mı Kaspias şöyle tablolar ? Boşuna mı yayınladı adam şimdi ?

https://i.ibb.co/4t1MSg7/kazaklar.png

https://i.ibb.co/74CMLK8/pca2.png

Hiç mi okumuyorsunuz bakmıyorsunuz ?

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Diğer Orta asya Türklerine göre gene çok. bazıları 60`ı görmüş. Anadolu Türkleri bile bazılarından çok türki skorluyor

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Originally Posted by Kyp

Turkmen from Asghabat, Turkmenistan:

Gedrosian: 28.17
Siberian: 4.84
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 1.34
Atlantic_Med: 1.72
North_European: 9.30
South_Asian: 6.32
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 7.65
East_Asian: 6.67
Caucasian: 33.95
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

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Turkmen from Deliorman, Bulgaristan :D


Gedrosia 12.11 Pct
Siberian 4.49 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.67 Pct
Atlantic_Med 16.92 Pct
North_European 23.23 Pct
South_Asian 3.3 Pct
East_African 0.27 Pct
Southwest_Asian 6.53 Pct
East_Asian 6.88 Pct
Caucasus 24.61 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: İsmail
8.46480360 Turk_Trakya
9.91751985 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
9.98091178 Turk_Deliorman
12.99131248 Turk_Makedonya
13.75804855 Turk_Northwest
14.77649146 MD_Gagauz
14.81379762 Bulgarian_Thrace
15.45300618 Bulgarian_East
15.83114020 Greek_Macedonia
15.84100060 Pomak_Greece

Distance to: İsmail
2.23056115 60.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 39.40% Uzbek
2.33289011 58.40% MD_Gagauz + 41.60% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.36926634 56.60% Greek_Macedonia + 43.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.41194050 57.20% Bulgarian_East + 42.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.42193091 51.40% Romanian + 48.60% Turkmen_Iran
2.45006883 48.80% Montenegrin + 51.20% Turkmen_Iran
2.53061276 50.80% Macedonian + 49.20% Turkmen_Iran
2.56837474 54.80% Bulgarian_Central + 45.20% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.63136424 54.60% Pomak_Bulgaria + 45.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.67067356 52.80% MD_South + 47.20% Turkmen_Iran
2.77620989 52.40% Bulgarian_West + 47.60% Turkmen_Iran
2.86187387 54.00% Bulgarian_West + 46.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.87936067 56.60% Pomak_Greece + 43.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.02870855 53.20% Bulgarian_Central + 46.80% Turkmen_Iran
3.06969487 53.00% Pomak_Bulgaria + 47.00% Turkmen_Iran
3.12968530 54.40% MD_South + 45.60% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.15412859 52.40% Macedonian + 47.60% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.16094253 58.00% Greek_Thessaloniki + 42.00% Uzbek
3.19470869 59.60% Bulgarian_East + 40.40% Uzbek
3.21060583 63.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 36.20% Uzbeki
3.22315058 59.00% Greek_Macedonia + 41.00% Uzbek
3.23249731 46.40% Serb + 53.60% Turkmen_Iran
3.34148914 58.20% Greek_Thrace + 41.80% Uzbek
3.43427903 60.80% MD_Gagauz + 39.20% Uzbek
3.45393397 53.00% Romanian + 47.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan