Pashtuns: A genetically South Asian ethnicity wrapped in self hate(?)

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Originally Posted by jatt

British n some euro have small eyes because of Mongol invasion too. Is a fact

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wow thank you, i didnt know that mongols invaded britain with their mighty mongolian fleet :picard2: .Maybe i should just ignore what educated people wrote and historians say about that because the omniscient Jatt knows it better.

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Originally Posted by Vir9

not all pakistani pashtuns are indid and the majority looks still iranic.But many in cities like peshawar are clearly mixed with indians and some areas where pashtuns live today in pakistan were only quite recently pashtunized. Afghan pashtuns have very low east asian components and they are a much better example for the genes and look of original pashtuns than most pashtuns in pakistan today.

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latest study done on Afghan pashtuns clearly showed more east asian genes compared to Pakistani pashtuns. And Tajiks, hazaras and Uzbeks are mongloid anyway so it does not surprise me that some mongol genes got to Afghan pashtuns. That why many Afghan pashtuns look like hazaras.

The reason Afghan pashtuns have less South Asian is because of more east asian component in them. So how the f are Afghan pashtuns mixed with mongols closer to original pashtuns?

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Originally Posted by Dynamo

I never said all, I said the ones from the cities. The ones in the villages next to the durrand line look no different to us. Half breeds? What's that meant To mean? I don't why you got insulted tbh because you kmoe its true. You genuinely believe pathans in Peshawar are fully pashtuns and have no recent admixture? No way in hell woukd I believe it. Even pashtuns in cities in Afghanistan are likley mixed with tajiks. The ones in villages are the pure ones most likley, and they clearly are less South asiab thsn pakistan Pathans. I've seen peshawaris, and bro, they look paki. Yes, their great grandparent was pribably an afghab who blah blah but that's tge truth. You mention the Suleiman mountains? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulaiman_Mountains

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Not evryone in Peshawar is pashtun. Just like not everyone in Karachi is muhajir. I already wrote that the reason Afghan pashtuns have less South Asian is because of more east asian in them.

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Originally Posted by back_up

latest study done on Afghan pashtuns clearly showed more east asian genes compared to Pakistani pashtuns. And Tajiks, hazaras and Uzbeks are mongloid anyway so it does not surprise me that some mongol genes got to Afghan pashtuns. That why many Afghan pashtuns look like hazaras.

The reason Afghan pashtuns have less South Asian is because of more east asian component in them. So how the f are Afghan pashtuns mixed with mongols closer to original pashtuns?

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yes afghan pashtuns have more east asian dna than pakistan pashtuns and on average pashtuns have around 5% east asian dna there but some individuals have almost none and other have a bit more.This is not really much and surely not the reason why pashtuns in afghanistan have much less south asian dna components than pakistani pashtuns

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Originally Posted by Vir9

yes afghan pashtuns have more east asian dna than pakistan pashtuns and on average pashtuns have around 5-7% east asian dna there but some individuals have almost none and other have a bit more.This is not really much and surely not the reason why pashtuns in afghanistan have much less south asian dna components than pakistani pashtuns

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I don't want repeat again and again, read properly this time.

The reason Afghan pashtuns have less South Asian is because of more east asian. Learn how admixture is calculated and then come back.

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Originally Posted by back_up

latest study done on Afghan pashtuns clearly showed more east asian genes compared to Pakistani pashtuns. And Tajiks, hazaras and Uzbeks are mongloid anyway so it does not surprise me that some mongol genes got to Afghan pashtuns. That why many Afghan pashtuns look like hazaras.

The reason Afghan pashtuns have less South Asian is because of more east asian component in them. So how the f are Afghan pashtuns mixed with mongols closer to original pashtuns?

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Have you seen the afghan pashtuns harappa world resukts? He's a mohammadzai and barakzai, he scored 1.19% northeast asian and 2.10 Siberian. Hardly admixture compared to almost more than 30% South asian admixture in Pathans from Pakistan. What's your point? The pakistan Pathans have way too much South Asian in them for them to be considered pure anyways. Look at the links I posted, all afghan pashtuns, East asian admixture is extremely little.

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Originally Posted by Dynamo

No yiur right, paki pathans have mixed with punjabis, and Sindhis modt likley.

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Those who have settled in Punjab and mixed with punjabis are called punjabi pathans. Upper Balochistan, KPK and FATA where 70% of pashtuns live are not mixed with Sindhi/Punjabis.

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Originally Posted by back_up

I don't want repeat again and again, read properly this time.

The reason Afghan pashtuns have less South Asian is because of more east asian. Learn how admixture is calculated and then come back.

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That's not true ffs anyways, ask me why. Because the afghan Pashtuns have a higher west eurasuan percentage, so even if your little fantasy is true, the afghans woukd have the same or even less percentage of Western eurasuan in them. Average pakistani Pathan had 81% Western eurasuan, average afghan pashtun ranged from 85-88%.

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Originally Posted by back_up

latest study done on Afghan pashtuns clearly showed more east asian genes compared to Pakistani pashtuns. And Tajiks, hazaras and Uzbeks are mongloid anyway so it does not surprise me that some mongol genes got to Afghan pashtuns. That why many Afghan pashtuns look like hazaras.

The reason Afghan pashtuns have less South Asian is because of more east asian component in them. So how the f are Afghan pashtuns mixed with mongols closer to original pashtuns?

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many afghan pashtuns look like hazaras??? are you kidding me? It is sad that you try to defame afghan pashtun .We never said that pakistani pashtuns look south asian but i and dynamo just mentioned that the samples that were used for this genetic studies were not representative because they were taken from an area were pashtuns often mixed with south asians so this pashtuns are more south asian shifted than other pashtuns

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Originally Posted by Dynamo

Have you seen the afghan pashtuns harappa world resukts? He's a mohammadzai and barakzai, he scored 1.19% northeast asian and 2.10 Siberian. Hardly admixture compared to almost more than 30% South asian admixture in Pathans from Pakistan. What's your point? The pakistan Pathans have way too much South Asian in them for them to be considered pure anyways. Look at the links I posted, all afghan pashtuns, East asian admixture is extremely little.

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Here is actual study on Afghans.

http://www.harappadna.org/2014/01/afghan-dataset/

And Pakistani pashtuns average 20-22% South Asian.