Moldovan/Romanian GEDmatch Resuts

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

No, she was born in Ukraine and is married to a native Ukrainian speaking Ukrainian. But her maiden family name, Tsurkan, is of Moldovan/Romanian origin (original Latin version, as hers is transliterated from Cyrillic probably, is Turcan). It is very popular in R. Moldova.
I think she's a half Ukrainian mix. She looks like the female version of Nurzat, who is half Ukrainian.

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I've used for Moldavian an average of some samples I find more relevant (about 10 samples both from RM and RO), outliers excluded:
Moldavian,23.542,27.288,16.546,10.864,16.132,1.706 ,0.3,0.848,1.9975,0.418,0.396,0.054,0.032

distance is not ideal (normal for mixed people but can also point to a different source we can't figure out):


Target: Tsurkanka
Distance: 4.3030% / 4.30296412
53.8 Moldavian
46.2 Belorussian

Target: Tsurkanka
Distance: 5.6200% / 5.61997732
51.2 Southwest_Russian
48.8 Moldavian

Target: Tsurkanka
Distance: 6.1322% / 6.13217471
56.4 Ukrainian_Lviv
38.8 Moldavian
4.8 Ukrainian_Belgorod


when I place Belorussian in the source it gets all the % against Ukrainian/Russian/Slovak/Lithuanian. so Belorussian (north Ukrainian?) seems best proxy for about half of her ancestry

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Originally Posted by Leto

Haha, I actually thought of Nurzat too xD
Can you also share her Dodecad components?

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Ladogan connection xD

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https://scontent.fsbz1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...3a&oe=5EA9CDCC

since PreSlavic wasn't in the plates, I've compared to it separately, good result:

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https://scontent.fsbz1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...6f&oe=5EAC7B7E

2 Romanian samples via GEDMatch one to many, names CHireac and Oprisan, region is not known.

Woman Chireac


Population
North_Atlantic 24.82 Pct
Baltic 28.86 Pct
West_Med 16.91 Pct
West_Asian 7.63 Pct
East_Med 16.16 Pct
Red_Sea 1.99 Pct
South_Asian 0.72 Pct
East_Asian 0.41 Pct
Siberian 1.50 Pct
Amerindian 0.52 Pct
Oceanian 0.48 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

WOman Oprisan

Population
North_Atlantic 20.69 Pct
Baltic 21.83 Pct
West_Med 18.53 Pct
West_Asian 12.82 Pct
East_Med 20.66 Pct
Red_Sea 0.65 Pct
South_Asian 0.45 Pct
East_Asian 1.69 Pct
Siberian 1.43 Pct
Amerindian 1.25 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

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Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow

2 Romanian samples via GEDMatch one to many, names CHireac and Oprisan, region is not known.

Woman Chireac


Population
North_Atlantic 24.82 Pct
Baltic 28.86 Pct
West_Med 16.91 Pct
West_Asian 7.63 Pct
East_Med 16.16 Pct
Red_Sea 1.99 Pct
South_Asian 0.72 Pct
East_Asian 0.41 Pct
Siberian 1.50 Pct
Amerindian 0.52 Pct
Oceanian 0.48 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

WOman Oprisan

Population
North_Atlantic 20.69 Pct
Baltic 21.83 Pct
West_Med 18.53 Pct
West_Asian 12.82 Pct
East_Med 20.66 Pct
Red_Sea 0.65 Pct
South_Asian 0.45 Pct
East_Asian 1.69 Pct
Siberian 1.43 Pct
Amerindian 1.25 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

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We have the 2nd, I'll add the first. Oprisan is from Romania's Moldavia btw, as the surname doesn't exist in R. Moldova.

I've got another person from Central Moldova, in this village from Cimislia at the crossroads with Ialoveni and Hincesti.

https://i.imgur.com/Xtxmnuk.png

As was the case with the person from Hincesti, this person also scores 29% Baltic. Other persons already posted in the list from Central Moldova are from Ungheni - 26%, Zmey Gorynich who was a mix of Ialoveni and Telenesti at 33%, my dad at 32%. His paternal village in Orhei though is next door to Rezina and at the same latitude as Falesti, so technically he can be considered both Central and Northern.

https://i.imgur.com/Wq2IiS0.png

Speaking of Northern, there are 3 more samples and it seems that as Aspirin noticed previously, 33% is more or less the average there among unmixed Moldovans/Romanians.
The new ones are from:
Ocnita - 33%
Balti (Moldovan/Romanian maiden surname name) - 31%
Balti (offspring of the above, but dad's surname is Russian and she uses the feminine desinence "-a" after "-ov" meaning that their family's native language is most likely Russian) - 33%
This surname is also most popular among Latvian Russians than anywhere else, so on her dad's side I'm not sure of the origin, but given that she doesn't deviate much from the mom, dad might be heavily mixed locally.

I'll post the full update later in the evening.

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Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow

WOman Oprisan

Population
North_Atlantic 20.69 Pct
Baltic 21.83 Pct
West_Med 18.53 Pct
West_Asian 12.82 Pct
East_Med 20.66 Pct
Red_Sea 0.65 Pct
South_Asian 0.45 Pct
East_Asian 1.69 Pct
Siberian 1.43 Pct
Amerindian 1.25 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

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Some Romanians are really low in Slavic ancestry.
Baltic 21.83 Pct

Update v5
+21 samples

https://i.imgur.com/IqkKI9v.png

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Originally Posted by Leto

Some Romanians are really low in Slavic ancestry.
Baltic 21.83 Pct

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Hard to really understand what has gone on in this ountry to see such diverse results, more specifically, how some score 20-20 na/baltic when you see even Bulgarians with more na/baltic sometimes. You'd expect things to go up the morth north you are but it's not necessarily reality.

That person with surname Vrabie from Gura-Galbenei is visible northern for that area. I checked local surnames from that village and majority of them are Moldavian.

https://localitati.casata.md/index.p...litate&id=2919

Pictures with high-school graduates from that village:

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https://scontent.fkiv1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...56&oe=5EAD7E0D
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https://scontent.fkiv1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...59&oe=5EAC0AD6
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https://scontent.fkiv1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...5a&oe=5EAA96EB
https://scontent.fkiv1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...77&oe=5EAC8B72
https://scontent.fkiv1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...40&oe=5EAA2704
https://scontent.fkiv1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...2b&oe=5EAA9C21
https://scontent.fkiv1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...4e&oe=5EAD4E9A
https://scontent.fkiv1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...53&oe=5EAD1C1B
https://scontent.fkiv1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...ce&oe=5EACBB70
https://scontent.fkiv1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...39&oe=5EAB4F2A
https://scontent.fkiv1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...1d&oe=5EAA2650
https://scontent.fkiv1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...07&oe=5EAB5016
https://scontent.fkiv1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...08&oe=5EAB50AF

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

That person with surname Vrabie from Gura-Galbenei is visible northern for that area. I checked local surnames from that village and majority of them are Moldavian.

https://localitati.casata.md/index.p...litate&id=2919

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Gura-Galbenei sits at the crossroads with Hincesti, Ialoveni and is only 30km from Chisinau. His results are in line with others from the central area.