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Sandžakian Bosniaks are quite swarthy, they are clearly darker than any Serbian group.Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
The lightest Bosniaks are from Podrinje and northeastern Bosnia. First one mostly originated from western Serbia, and second one Pannonia and western Serbia.
Slavonia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pribislav
Eastern Bosniaks are swarthy, it's a myth they light
Miralem Pjanić, from Podrinje and looks like Greek.
https://www.google.com/search?biw=19...uact=5#imgrc=_
Vedad Ibišević, Podrinje
https://www.google.com/search?q=veda...=1920&bih=1007
Milan Đurić, Podrinje
https://www.google.com/search?biw=19...uact=5#imgrc=_
Sejad Salihović, Podrinje
https://www.google.com/search?biw=19...4dUDCAc&uact=5
Miroslav Stevanović, Podrinje
https://www.google.com/search?biw=19...4dUDCAc&uact=5
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Not only Slavonia, but also Vojvodina and Hungary https://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnđurovciQuote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
Part of Bosniaks of NE Bosnia originated from western Serbia. When Muslims are removed from Užice, Belgrade, Valjevo, Šabac, Loznica in 1860s Muslim population of Tuzla area has grown significantly. Šamac was formed from Muslim refugees from Serbia in 1860s.
Bosniaks extremely mixed looking. But they have some Germanic looking types extreme rare to find among Croats or Serbs.
I am fairly certain these kinds of faces are common among Bosniaks throughout Bosnia. It's only Turks who think Bosniaks are significantly blonde.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
I used think Bosnensis atypical be he not, he look like Dino Merlin who is Bosniak. He is typical muslim face.Quote:
Originally Posted by CommonSense
But, I have never seen Croats like this:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...y-two-BosniaksQuote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
Is Bosniensis a common face? He isn't extremely wog, doesn't look like a damn Kurd or anything like that but nevertheless he is far from blonde and Balto-Nordic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
Yes he is typical muslim face (urban muslim)Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Nice cherrypicking. :thumb001:Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
In Podrinje can be found more gingers than in other parts of Bosnia (among both Serbs and Bosniaks). Reason is simple, Saxon miner lived there in the middle age and in Ottoman time Orthodoxes and Muslims absorbed them. There is village Sase near Srebrenica, name is clearly related with presence of Saxon miners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sase,_Srebrenica
Serbian girl from Skelani near Srebrenica.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83BqSQnHTKU
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Bosnia is very mixed because especially muslims have origins from all over lol....Croatia,Serbia,Hungary,Motenegro.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Pribislav
Some Bosniaks even have Circassian origins lol....some Circassian slaves were taken to Bosnia. Hence surname ''Čerkezović''
I have seen somewhere on internet that some Muslims bey families from Tuzla came from Budapest. They settled to Tuzla in 1686 when Austrians removed Ottomans from Budapest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
Maybe, but most of Budapest has been south slavic under ottomans. My grandpa ancestor came from Hungary and they were not Hungarian but Croat in origin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pribislav
Ethnicity: Bosniak
Region: 1/2 Brcko/Bosnia (with some Albanian), 1/2 Novi Pazar
Code:Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.08
2 North_Atlantic 23.16
3 West_Med 19.17
4 East_Med 14.04
5 West_Asian 8.26
6 Red_Sea 2.61
7 Oceanian 0.88
8 Siberian 0.41
9 South_Asian 0.14
10 Amerindian 0.14
11 East_Asian 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.95
2 Serbian 5.95
3 Romanian 7.66
4 Croatian 8.25
5 Bulgarian 8.91
6 Hungarian 10.67
7 Austrian 13.95
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.37
9 East_German 14.84
10 South_Polish 15.58
11 Ukrainian 15.59
12 Greek_Thessaly 17.08
13 Polish 18.77
14 Southwest_Russian 19.01
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.36
16 West_German 20.05
17 North_Italian 20.06
18 Russian_Smolensk 20.69
19 Estonian_Polish 21.1
20 French 21.18
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.7% Moldavian + 11.3% Sardinian @ 2.99
2 69% Croatian + 31% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.4
3 52.4% Ukrainian + 47.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.42
4 54.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 45.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.5
5 81.6% Croatian + 18.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.5
6 76.3% Croatian + 23.7% Central_Greek @ 3.61
7 77.2% Croatian + 22.8% East_Sicilian @ 3.64
8 52.4% Croatian + 47.6% Bulgarian @ 3.65
9 79.3% Croatian + 20.7% South_Italian @ 3.69
10 65.1% Ukrainian + 34.9% South_Italian @ 3.74
11 61.2% Ukrainian + 38.8% Central_Greek @ 3.74
12 78.3% Moldavian + 21.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.75
13 62.3% Ukrainian + 37.7% East_Sicilian @ 3.78
14 87.9% Moldavian + 12.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.8
15 63.2% Bulgarian + 36.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.81
16 52.5% Greek_Thessaly + 47.5% Polish @ 3.81
17 82.3% Moldavian + 17.7% Tuscan @ 3.83
18 84.4% Moldavian + 15.6% West_Sicilian @ 3.84
19 61.9% Ukrainian + 38.1% West_Sicilian @ 3.85
20 65.3% Bulgarian + 34.7% Ukrainian @ 3.85
Code:Eurogenes K15
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 19.27
2 North_Sea 15.96
3 West_Med 15.15
4 Eastern_Euro 15.03
5 Atlantic 13.82
6 East_Med 12.65
7 West_Asian 5.62
8 Red_Sea 2.03
9 Oceanian 0.46
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 6.9
2 Moldavian 7.09
3 Romanian 7.87
4 Croatian 8.66
5 Bulgarian 8.92
6 Hungarian 10.56
7 Austrian 11.7
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.93
9 Ukrainian 14.43
10 South_Polish 14.62
11 East_German 14.85
12 Greek_Thessaly 15.08
13 Greek 15.95
14 Polish 16.98
15 Russian_Smolensk 17.41
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.44
17 Southwest_Russian 17.86
18 North_Italian 17.92
19 Tuscan 18.67
20 Estonian_Polish 19.2
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.7% Ukrainian + 47.3% Greek @ 4.01
2 56.4% Greek_Thessaly + 43.6% Estonian_Polish @ 4.3
3 67.8% Ukrainian + 32.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.33
4 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Sardinian @ 4.36
5 61.1% Ukrainian + 38.9% West_Sicilian @ 4.6
6 51.2% Ukrainian + 48.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.68
7 53.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 46.2% Greek @ 4.68
8 53.2% Greek_Thessaly + 46.8% Polish @ 4.7
9 67.2% Ukrainian + 32.8% Italian_Jewish @ 4.71
10 84.6% Moldavian + 15.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.75
11 74.4% Moldavian + 25.6% Greek @ 4.77
12 64.4% Ukrainian + 35.6% South_Italian @ 4.79
13 66.5% Croatian + 33.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.83
14 60.8% Ukrainian + 39.2% Central_Greek @ 4.88
15 80.7% Moldavian + 19.3% West_Sicilian @ 4.9
16 80.1% Croatian + 19.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.9
17 56.8% Greek_Thessaly + 43.2% Belorussian @ 4.92
18 61.7% Ukrainian + 38.3% East_Sicilian @ 4.93
19 84.7% Moldavian + 15.3% Italian_Jewish @ 4.98
20 52.4% South_Polish + 47.6% Greek @ 5.01
Why would someone from Bosnia look like Kurd?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Bakir looks Irano-Nordoid, his look doesn't exist among non muslims.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moje ime
That was just an example of a superswarthy wog ethnic group, what Russians would call "black-assed" in Russian (chernozhopy) :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Moje ime
From Hungary or from Slavonia?Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
Many Bosanska Krajina Muslims have legends about origin from Anatolia. Most of that legends are invented, because among Muslims it was more popular be of Anatolian origin than orginary poturica.
Still Bosanska Muslims some exotic haplogroups in small % (G1, R1a-Z93, E-M81, T, L) which are probably of Anatolian origin.
Y dna of Bosanska Krajina Muslims (sample 73)
https://forum.krstarica.com/attachme..._n-jpg.561752/
They have higher J2b-M205 and N-P189.2 than Bosniaks from other parts of Bosnia. First clade originated from Kriči and second from Banjani in Old Herzegovina (present day western Montenegro).
Bosniensis is I2-PH908 and his paternal line came to Bosanska (Cazinska) Krajina from eastern Herzegovina.
^^^^^Hungary. They came to Dubica after Ottoman Army retreated from Hungary in 17th century. Actually Serbian member found this information about my family.
He's J2b1 I think,is active on Poreklo and was on Anthroscape. Nesa/Ness was his username.
I know Nesa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
J2b-M205 carry few Croatians from Dalmatia and Livno. Not sure for other regions.
Some info from old article about DubicaQuote:
Originally Posted by Pribislav
https://i.imgur.com/mlcd9eY.png
They mention my grand-grand-grandpa Hasan gave money for mosque, he was extremely religious
https://i.imgur.com/Nyanw1N.png
Here they mention how a girl from our family was hanged by Ustaše because of helping partisans. My grandpa bring flowers to her corpse, and than he was sent to Jasenovac, which was very close, for 3 months.
https://i.imgur.com/C2o9kJJ.png
You said Bosniaks have origin from Hungary, Croatia, Serbia, Montrnegro. Yes, and also many them have Herzegovinian origin. Often in history Bosnia was populated from Herzegovina. And Herzegovina (Zahumlje) often gave ruling elite to Bosnia, in the middle age and in Ottoman time. Herzegovina/Hezegovinians were always superior towards the Bosnia/Bosnians. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
Pezić family is most likely also from western Herzegovina/Dalmatian hinterland, and not Bosnian by origin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pribislav
So Bosniaks are about 20% R1a? I believe Croats are like 25-30%.
They have similar R1a ratios like southern Croats I think. Except Sandžak Bosniaks, who have very few.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Bosniaks from western Bosnian are 19-20% R1a. Bosniaks from other parts of Bosnia and from Herzegovina have lower R1a, but higher I2a.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Sandžakian Bosniaks are almost without R1a, they have only 2-3%. I2a is 12-13% in Sandžakian Bosniaks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
Sandžakian Bosniaks are about 70% E-V13 + R1b-BY611 + J2b2. They are very similar as Kosovo Albanians in y dna.
Is Elvedin Pezić your cousin?Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDOmzluQvhc
Who is he? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Pribislav
Bosniak Muslim imam https://muminbosna.com/elvedin-pezic/Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
Is he from Dubica? All Pezići in Dubica are my relatives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pribislav
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneti...es_on_BosniaksQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
tuzla and zenica- 23-24
entire country - 15-17
He is born in Travnik, around 0:28.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X70GUtDf_-k
Than probably not. Btw, most of Pezići are Catholics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pribislav
Those guys in the video look quite Muslim to me. Remind me of Caucasian Muslims.
PS, this is Drago Pezić, he was chosen for handsomnest Croat recently. He is Catholic
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...2a&oe=5E7FFA96
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...24&oe=5E82E1FC
Pezić probably came from Pezo, nick of Petar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
I have seen somewhere claim for Pezić Catholics from Herzegovina that their older surname was Vukojević.
Sandžakians putted y dna result of your father on their project. :1127: