Iranian GEDmatch kits

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Originally Posted by MS85

One is Polish and a very confused wannabe Aryan fella, other is most likely an Assyrian who hates Kurds.

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I thought he was Polish too named David Wesolowski but I googled that name and got nothing. You would expect some background if he was half a some body. I also googled the other one dmxx and just got rappers :cool:

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Originally Posted by MS85

I do agree with you. Also, the source populations are very weird, don't make sense at all and don't correlate with the actual history of the outcoming groups.

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can you recommend the groups? I'm not very strong on the ancient populations
here's the webrunner. It takes a min to load and all.
185.144.156.77:3000/

custom calculators
185.144.156.77:3000/custom_calculators.html

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Originally Posted by Zoro

I thought he was Polish too named David Wesolowski but I googled that name and got nothing. You would expect some background if he was half a some body. I also googled the other one dmxx and just got rappers :cool:

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With other words, just a bunch of ignorant amateurs.

DMX is a well known American rapper.

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Originally Posted by Thambi

can you recommend the groups? I'm not very strong on the ancient populations
here's the webrunner. It takes a min to load and all.
185.144.156.77:3000/

custom calculators
185.144.156.77:3000/custom_calculators.html

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Honestly it depends which ethnic groups do you want to test. Because every ethnic group is different and different models are required.

But the idea is great. Let me think about it!

double post

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Originally Posted by Zoro

I seriously don’t think 5% is enough to give such marked mongoloid phenotype. Here’s why. First, we have all seen 50% E Asian/ 50% European kids and many of those kids even though 1 parent is E Asian, they barely look E Asian and certainly less E Asian than some of the Kurds Iranians and some Caucasians.

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Of course if you mix a European and an Asian you are not going to have the gene pairs that lead to distinct eastern traits, but if you mix 2 people from a pool people with 5% EE ancestry you are going to some Eastern looking people.

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So I’ll never be convinced 5% is enough case closed.

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Who cares what you think, you didn't make a solid case anyway, you are literally denying real and valid genetic results and advocating for ones with ridiculous low number of cluster

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Second, remember the many Indian looking S Iraqis like the ones I posted on the previous page we can both agree there wasn’t alot of admixture between them and Indians recently otherwise admixture calculators would pick it up. I think that’s old shared some sore of Mesopotamian or some Neolithic farmer between the 2.

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Them looking alike is really questionable, it might be down to Iranian Neolithic ancestry anyway.

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With regards to population replacement who said all the E Asian in W Asians was a 1 time event. It’s actually due to multiple waves from the east starting around the Iron Age with Saka and then various Turkic .

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Sakas were not that Eastern Eurasian and again, for any % point of Eastern Eurasian there would be many more of non-EE Steppe ancestry, which would be far more evident than it is in reality.

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I think you gave me an incentive to learn admixture software to build a k3 SSA, ENF, E Asian calculator. Let the chips fall where they may :)

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3 clusters is too low, add at least ASI.

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Originally Posted by Thambi

West Asian runs on G25. Persians get more mongoloid than kurds actually. Iranian persian average gets 3% mongola. West asians in general have virtually no AASI, except for bandaris at 7.5%. so there's no direct gene flow from south asians at any point to majority of iran. I think most of the south asian that shows up in iranians is from the iran neolithic/BMAC.. Uzbeks surprisingly have the most AASI in the west/central asian region, outside the pashtuns/balochis obviously.

Mongoloid is highest among Tajiks as you guys mentioned at around 8%. Turks can reach around 15% mongoloid on average in Aydin.

https://i.imgur.com/XD9rFMX.png

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What about stuff like the Mauryan conquests, spread of Buddhism, Gypsy migration? Did those bring no relevant amount of Indians around Iran and Central Asia, outside the direct reach of the Indian empires in Afghanistan?

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Originally Posted by Babak

Heratis will be closer to Khorasanis and eastern Iranians in general, but Tajiks from Tajikistan are not.

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Tajiks are basically Pashtun-Mongoloid hybrids, Tajiks have good deal of diversity and google images whitewash tajiks by showing lightest pamiris , most Tajiks I have seen in Europe look like mexicans.

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Originally Posted by lameduck

Tajiks are basically Pashtun-Mongoloid hybrids, Tajiks have good deal of diversity and google images whitewash tajiks by showing lightest pamiris , most Tajiks I have seen in Europe look like mexicans.

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Yea, i noticed the same thing lol

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Originally Posted by SharpFork

What about stuff like the Mauryan conquests, spread of Buddhism, Gypsy migration? Did those bring no relevant amount of Indians around Iran and Central Asia, outside the direct reach of the Indian empires in Afghanistan?

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Histroical Infleuce of Indian world on Iranian world was mainly limited to South Central Asia , basically modern day West Pakistan and East Afghanistan.