Holy Moses, how is that possible? I won't believe that until I see the proof.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varda
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Holy Moses, how is that possible? I won't believe that until I see the proof.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varda
Here is Attachment 101838Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
His surname is Gajić.
It's written herz.Rs (Rs means Republika Srpska).
there have already been a couple of 36 Baltic results, he is just the decimal recorder. there is also that woman with 39%, but she's 1/16 Polish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
So now you've started to believe those shady people who like emphasizing exceptionally high Baltic scores?Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
1/16 Polish is nothing, that would still be visible only if the rest is of an entirely different race. Other than that, no.
His K36 mapQuote:
Originally Posted by Varda
https://i.imgur.com/Ht9FgCV.png
what :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
i'm talking about people who stated their ancestry, or confirmed it in private to me, Feiichy or CommonSense.
High Baltic Serb K15
https://i.imgur.com/X5Y0kd4.png
i don't think he's from Herzegovina. i've seen results from Čapljina to Nikšić to Čajniče, they are all 27-29% Baltic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varda
Okay. You know what I was talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
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His Dodecad is not so spectacular. This is why I say don't focus on K13 only
Gedrosia 5.32 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.20 Pct
Atlantic_Med 24.23 Pct
North_European 44.09 Pct
South_Asian 1.89 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.35 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 20.92 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
I believe Ford is 43% North European, not that far off.
Well, he's got really low North Atlantic, so it evens out. On another testing chip the components would probably be more balanced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Another Gajić, obvious his cousin Attachment 101839Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
One Gajić is Nikola and other Milojko according to my information.
because his north atlantic is very low. to cut the story short, he is very Slavic, but his non Slavic part is something very "southern". Dodecad can't show this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Dodecad is inferior to EurogenesQuote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
no, this is normal. there are such Serbian results with the old chip too. chip differences show as some 0-2% noises, the essence of the results remains the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by CommonSense
it's inferior for most Europeans. but it might be better in some cases. maybe for Finns, because Latvians are the most northern reference in k13, so it has problems with Finns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
It isn't for Eastern Euros in my view.Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
The differences are minimal in my case, so I don't recommend anyone testing with more than one company, if it's only for raw data purposes. I've done 23andme v4 and LivingDNA v1.Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
23andme v4
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 25.32 29.15 15.30 9.96 13.06 1.46 0.65 2.08 2.65 0 0.37 0 0
LivingDNA v1
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 25.25 29.82 14.67 10.28 12.78 1.20 0.46 2.37 2.52 0 0.27 0.05 0.32
The one that I use for testing, combined 23andme + LivingDNA
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 25.42 29.37 15.04 9.99 12.91 1.53 0.69 1.84 2.84 0 0.37 0 0
that's a broad term. whom do you consider eastern euros?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
it seems this guy actually tested on two different chips.Quote:
Originally Posted by CommonSense
my heritage, 70 000 snps:
living dna, 130k snps:Code:North_Atlantic 20.47 Pct
Baltic 36.84 Pct
West_Med 17.80 Pct
West_Asian 10.03 Pct
East_Med 12.05 Pct
Red_Sea 0.35 Pct
South_Asian 0.80 Pct
East_Asian 0.30 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.80 Pct
Oceanian 0.56 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
the differences are really up to 2%, like i said.Code:North_Atlantic 21.09 Pct
Baltic 35.75 Pct
West_Med 17.31 Pct
West_Asian 8.50 Pct
East_Med 13.89 Pct
Red_Sea 1.28 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.01 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.31 Pct
Oceanian 0.85 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
these are his parents:
Code:North_Atlantic 24.49 Pct
Baltic 32.62 Pct
West_Med 16.94 Pct
West_Asian 6.85 Pct
East_Med 13.92 Pct
Red_Sea 1.68 Pct
South_Asian 0.81 Pct
East_Asian 1.11 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.38 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.20 Pct
North_Atlantic 22.83 Pct
Baltic 31.38 Pct
West_Med 19.63 Pct
West_Asian 10.65 Pct
East_Med 12.79 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.48 Pct
East_Asian 0.95 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.29 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan
where is this written? his mail ends in yahoo.frQuote:
Originally Posted by Varda
Slavic and Baltic mainly. I largely use it for Russians and neighbors as well as the non-European former Soviet Union. Anyway, if you guys don't like it, you may not use it. I'm not focused on South Slavs who are Southeastern European.Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
well ok, dodecad might be better for this area. for west Slavs you already need k13, to tell apart their germanic influence from balto-Slavic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
I look at Atlantic_Med. It increases as you go west basically.Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
Who are those South Slavs who don't live in SE Europe? Official definition of SE Europe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Well, I would exclude Slovenes, they are Central European, in my view.Quote:
Southeastern Europe: Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, East Thrace (aka European Turkey), Greece, Kosovo, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Romania, Serbia and Slovenia.
You misunderstood me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terminator98
We would never accept definition of SE Europe without Slovenia. Because Croatia won't be only western Christian country dragged there with orthodox and muslim ones.Implying we are very similar lol.
With Slovenia it's acceptable.
We would never accept definition of SE Europe without Slovenia. Because Croatia won't be only western Christian country dragged there with orthodox and muslim ones.Implying we are very similar lol.
With Slovenia it's acceptable.
that's the equivalent of West med in k13. it's a neolitihic farmer component.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
southern europeans were still quite neolithic (west med) in the iron age. the more IE shifted ones had a lot of North Atlantic, but not Baltic.
then the Romans increased our East med.
then Germanic tribes brought some more north Atlantic, and then Slavs brought high Baltic for the first time.
on the other hand, dodecad can just tell me i 'm a mix of south and north europeans. i think i get something like German+ Italian but also Russian +Italian in the oracle.
that's why it's better for us.
Ethnic Slovenians are not Balkan genetically. They are closer to Slovaks or Hungarians, perhaps even Czechs than to Bulgarians or Macedonians. Needless to mention Albanians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stearsolina
Slovenians are almost identical to NW Croats and Hungarians. So?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
I don't like how entire Croatia is pushed into Balkans while exception is made for Slovenia. Sorry but it won't pass.
Because of northern Croatia entire Croatia doesn't belong to Balkans?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stearsolina
Serbs could say the same thing. Not based on adna but you get the point.
Slovenians are undoubtedly CE starting from genetics and so on.
You are Balkan Croat from another country, Bosnia-Herzegovina. Why do you think entire Croatia is like BiH?Quote:
Originally Posted by Insuperable
I don't care about what Serbs say, it's a orthodox country with Byzantine-Ottoman past and entirely different from Croatia.
I don't think Croatia is like BiH. Did I ever say that? BiH is an abomination of a country. Balkan people to me are Christian people and nations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stearsolina
We were ruled by Austrians, Hungarians, Northern Italians. We so superior.
Okay, I think Balkan parts of Croatia are Dalmatian Hinterland, Lika, Kordun (former military frontier). Culturally also southern Slavonia and Banija to some extent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Insuperable
No, it has nothing to do. Croatia accepted Frankish western Christianity and state system as medieval Kingdom while Serbia accepted Byzantine one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Insuperable
Differences between us are from before the schism.
And if you don't respect Croatian culture than piss off.
Thread is about Serbian DNA so I won't derail anymore.
Do you feel a big relief after dissecting every part of Croatia? This part belong there, this there etc. It seems to play a big part in your life. We have sea and we were under Italians. Hence we are southern kangz. Etc. I don't care is it CE, southern or Balkan. If we would agree on one thing I would be the most satisfied with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stearsolina
Informing people that country does not belong to or doesn't belong entirely to the Balkans. Never pass on chance on informing the public who is who or from which part does some Croat come from.:rolleyes:
Kroejskan complexes. Happy I got rid of them.
Croatia is extremely diverse. I don't care if that hurts your Balkan sensibilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Insuperable
And we don't like to be pushed where part of us doesn't belong while other part does.
You Vlach from Herzegovina won't dictate us what Croatia is.
We respected your culture and history and saw you as part of our people but you don't respect ours.
You are too pushy trying to show your Balkan culture as only thing Croatia is while you are huge minority of Croatian population, which was respected and never put aside nevetheless.
I respect Balkan Croats but you don't respect Med and Central European Croats.
Maybe you should convert to orthodoxy and become part of Serbian or Montenegrin nation because obviously you will feel at home there.
So basically almost all of Croatia?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stearsolina