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he could be from Kakanj, central Bosnia, and his results would fit that area, but it's not 100% sure. I just found a man with his name from there, but there are other people carrying same name so not confirmed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakanj
Edit: he really is probably from Kakanj area. one of his closest matches is Bosniak with gedcom that has some locations around Kakanj
Bosniak from Prijedor (from Facebook). He is living in Sweden.
https://scontent.fzag3-1.fna.fbcdn.n...YA&oe=61F78BBB
Bosniaks from Travnik
1.)
Population
North_Atlantic 28.51 Pct
Baltic 31.62 Pct
West_Med 14.24 Pct
West_Asian 5.39 Pct
East_Med 13.39 Pct
Red_Sea 2.83 Pct
South_Asian 2.63 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.92 Pct
Oceanian 0.47 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
2.)
Population
North_Atlantic 22.57 Pct
Baltic 34.73 Pct
West_Med 17.04 Pct
West_Asian 5.27 Pct
East_Med 12.79 Pct
Red_Sea 2.16 Pct
South_Asian 4.29 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.59 Pct
Oceanian 0.52 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Banja Luka
Population
North_Atlantic 30.89 Pct
Baltic 30.94 Pct
West_Med 15.26 Pct
West_Asian 8.65 Pct
East_Med 9.62 Pct
Red_Sea 3.28 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.3 Pct
Oceanian 0.07 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Tuzla
1.)
Population
North_Atlantic 26.36 Pct
Baltic 36.07 Pct
West_Med 15.09 Pct
West_Asian 5.56 Pct
East_Med 12.97 Pct
Red_Sea 1.75 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.86 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.35 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
2.) Close relative
Population
North_Atlantic 24.57 Pct
Baltic 35.78 Pct
West_Med 16.28 Pct
West_Asian 10.39 Pct
East_Med 7.67 Pct
Red_Sea 2.21 Pct
South_Asian 0.86 Pct
East_Asian 1.25 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.43 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.55 Pct
Sarajevo
Population
North_Atlantic 26 Pct
Baltic 30.42 Pct
West_Med 17.55 Pct
West_Asian 9.1 Pct
East_Med 14.07 Pct
Red_Sea 1.65 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.17 Pct
Amerindian 0.6 Pct
Oceanian 0.44 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Prijedor
Population
North_Atlantic 23.21 Pct
Baltic 38.08 Pct
West_Med 13.37 Pct
West_Asian 6.13 Pct
East_Med 12.63 Pct
Red_Sea 2.08 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.93 Pct
Siberian 0.13 Pct
Amerindian 2.82 Pct
Oceanian 0.61 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Ključ
Population
North_Atlantic 24.75 Pct
Baltic 32.26 Pct
West_Med 15.94 Pct
West_Asian 11.1 Pct
East_Med 12.29 Pct
Red_Sea 1.4 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.25 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 1.01 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Bihač
Population
North_Atlantic 28.73 Pct
Baltic 33.14 Pct
West_Med 14.08 Pct
West_Asian 5.71 Pct
East_Med 14.33 Pct
Red_Sea 1.1 Pct
South_Asian 0.49 Pct
East_Asian 0.33 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 2 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.1 Pct
No location given, just Bosnia and Hercegovina
Population
North_Atlantic 24.22 Pct
Baltic 31.81 Pct
West_Med 16.88 Pct
West_Asian 12.08 Pct
East_Med 11.53 Pct
Red_Sea 1.59 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.17 Pct
Siberian 0.64 Pct
Amerindian 0.19 Pct
Oceanian 0.58 Pct
Northeast_African 0.31 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
I can send kits if you need them.
Maybe somebody like Vbn could update Bosniak average with new samples? Got a lot recently. I'd do it myself but have no older samples stored. No need for regional division imo, just update general average if possible is enough. they seem to vary regionally anyway
They are artificially closer to Moldovans than to countries between them due to admixture match, but in reality countries bordering Bosnia are more "Bosnian-like".
These are outdated oracles (Moldovan average included east slavs and one part gypsy, Croatian average is based on just one sample with atypical high Baltic etc). People should use updated Vahaduo K13.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russki
however Moldovans do have similar genetic breakdown as south Slavs indeed (slavic and southern)
Distance to: Bosniak
1.56163376 Croat_East
2.56573576 Moldovan_North
3.29699864 Croat
4.00857830 Croat_South
4.41583514 Ukrainian_Carpathians
4.65542694 Lemko_Poland
4.71554875 Hungarian_Alföld
4.82586780 Croat_West
5.01732997 Romanian_North-Moldavia
5.05541294 Serb_Republika_Srpska
5.12096671 Croat_North
5.22025861 Moldovan_Central
5.45078893 Moldovan
5.72807996 Hungarian_North
5.80510982 Hungarian
6.41528643 Serb_Croatia
6.49907686 Csángó-Ceangău
6.68534965 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
6.97853136 Romanian_Maramureș
7.09046543 Serb_West
7.20150679 Serb
7.29778734 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
7.36645098 Slovene
7.41681873 Slovak
7.46067021 Ukrainian_Galicia
Distance to: Bosniak_Sandžak
1.27074781 Serb_Montenegro
1.34268388 Romanian_Oltenia
2.26426589 Romanian_Wallachia
2.29128785 Romanian_Banat
2.29769450 Bulgarian_Southwestern
2.43135765 Montenegrin
2.47163913 Romanian_Muntenia
2.59669020 Romanian_Dobruja
2.79615808 Romanian
2.81028468 Romanian_Transylvania
3.20137470 Bulgarian_Northwestern
3.33034533 Bulgarian
3.47158465 Romanian_South-Moldavia
3.78806019 Moldovan_South
4.03093041 North_Macedonian_North
4.06910310 Bulgarian_Northcentral
4.13064160 Romanian_Crișana
4.15563473 Bulgarian_Southcentral
4.47106251 North_Macedonian_East
4.55711532 Serb_Herzegovina
4.70316914 Serb_South
4.79548746 Bulgarian_Northeastern
5.22211643 Serb_Vojvodina
5.41302134 Pomak_Bulgaria
5.99570680 North_Macedonian_Central
Indigenous Bosniaks are very close to southern and eastern Croats. Sarajevo seems to be the most Serb like, evident from the above sample but also some of the old academic samples. Perhaps this is due to receiving Muslim migrants from Serbia/Montenegro after independence and more recent sandzak migrants.
Southern and eastern Croatians are not close to each other. Southern Croatians are quite closet to Bosnian Serbs than to eastern Croatians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ayetooey
Large part of "Bosniaks" are not native in Bosnia, but descendants of Muslim refugees from surrounding regions from late 17th to 19th century. In 19th century tons of Muslims from Serbia moved to Bosnia and mostly settled in eastern and northeastern Bosnia. That people had nothing to do with Sandakians (islamized Montenegrin-Albanian hybrids). They were Muslim Serbs from western and central Serbia.
Yeah I’m aware there was local Serbs who were islamised and not Sandzakians, that’s why I mentioned the two separately. Indigenous Bosniaks from rural regions seem to range from southern Croat like to eastern Croat like is my observation, not that southern/eastern Croats are the same. it’s Sarajevo Bosniaks who seem to be more similar to Bosnian Serbs, probably because many of them are like Bosniensis and have roots outside Bosnia. For indigenous rural Bosniaks it isn’t uncommon for them to hit Baltic in the mid to high 30s, something which isn’t common in any serb group.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varda
No. southern and eastern Croats are very similar genetically, we just lacked proper east Croat average. Soon it will be fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varda