Y-DNA: J2b1-M205>Y22066 (FTDNA, 111 markers)
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Y-DNA: J2b1-M205>Y22066 (FTDNA, 111 markers)
My Y - DNA : R1b - L21
R1b1a1a2
I2A1B. According to morley I may be subclade CTS10228.
Do you plan to do a deeper sequencing test for more specific subclade?Quote:
Originally Posted by ayetooey
Eventually yes, it all seems really expensive tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by rein
quite commonQuote:
Originally Posted by ayetooey
https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-CTS10228/
R1b-U106/S21.
Seems like a lot of people in Greece have it which is interesting. Morley specifically say's this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick
I2a1b3~1~1
I2-CTS10228 (I2-CTS5966)
i only see 6 out of an ocean of slavophonesQuote:
Originally Posted by ayetooey
https://fabpedigree.com/s016/f150945.htmQuote:
Morley specifically say's this.
I2a1b3~1~1
I2-CTS10228 (I2-CTS5966)
Not sure which clan Djokovic belongs to
Lol I didn't scroll down so it looked like a lot. I wouldn't of expected Novak to be i2, he is part of the proto-European clan good to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick
In the new year I'm gonna do that big Y thing I think.
Alternatively, you can do a Y-seq panel.Quote:
Originally Posted by ayetooey
I meant old Herzegovinian/Montenegrin clans.Quote:
Originally Posted by ayetooey
A2
I2-CTS10228>Y3120>S17250>PH908, Ozrinići cluster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick
Apparently I am R1b-U152 according to 23andMe. I am curious about its arrival into England, as my paternal line is English, pre-dating the Norman conquest.
https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/bri...land_dna.shtmlQuote:
R1b-U152 is found at low frequency almost everywhere in the British Isles, but is considerably more common in eastern and southern England (5-10%), reaching a peak of nearly 15% in East Anglia and in Kent.
I've
Read David Faux's hypothesis but I'm not sure how I feel about it. I suppose I'll never know, it's interesting though.
N-M2783. Rare for Hungarian. I need to do the N1a-VL29 panel from YSEQ or BigY to find out where I am downstream from here.
Seems to be very BalticQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr.G
https://www.yfull.com/arch-4.09/tree/N-M2783/
Yes, that's right. It was explained to me that N-M2783 moved south out of the Baltic region and was swept up in the early Slavic migrations (6-7th century). There are Czech, Polish, Slovak and Hungarians with a marker that is downstream from N-M2783. I have to test further to see if I am part of that group.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick
The marker is N-Y6075 and is associated with Slavs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.G
Hey. R1a-z93 on 23andme. Same on Morley Y DNA predictor. Is it worthy to go for a Y-37 on Ftdna? I am originally from South America, so it is probably coming from Jews or North Africans via Spain. I have some turks
in my 23andme matches, though.
R1a in Sephardic Jews must be rare, prob'ly rarer than in the Spanish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelju
By the way what is your European and Western Asian percentage on 23andme?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelju
There are certain R1a-Z93 clades found in Iberia. There is R-Y7094, found in Asturias, from what I can see it may have Turkic origin considering how the downstreams of it are found in Bashkortostan and it's ancestral clade being found in Tajikistan. R-Y86945 is also found in Cantabria and is shared with a Scot. This clade may also have some sort of Turkic origin but it also has downstreams in places like Iran which are Indo-Iranian speakers. R-CTS10041 is another one found in Spain, it's ancestral clade seems to be found in Iran as well as most clade coming from this. Though iirc it comes from the same distant ancestor as Y86945. In Jews R1a-Z93 is only really found in Ashkenazi and is from the R-Y2619 clade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelju
I tested on 23andme and ancestrydna. The result on both companies and third parties is 50% Eurasian, most of that coming from Iberia. My other half being the typical mix of mostly native American and a little of SSA. Other than the iberian (20%/30%ish), most estimates give me about 4% of Italian and/or sardinian, and 1%/2% Greece and the balkans. Also Gedmatch put me closer to people from extremadura, Galicia and Andalusia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Although 23andme and ancestrydna assign most of my admixture to Iberians and mediterraneans, third party companies (gedmatch, wegene, my heritage, dna. Land) get some small percentages from Baltics ~5%.
There are some traces of North African, middle East, and western Asian, but percentages change.
23andMe :
1.7% Western Asian and North African.
0.5% ashkenazi
Ancestry :
1% turkey and the caucasus, but before last update I got 3% middle East, 2% caucasus, 2% North Africa.
WeGene (23andme kit)
4.06% South Asian (Indian)
2.93% middle eastern (iran)
DNA.land (ancestry kit)
3.9% North African
1.1% ashkenazi
DNA. Land (23andme kit)
Ashkenazi 9.5%
Indo Iranian 4.5%
North African 10%
GEDmatch (ancestry kit), eurogenes k13
Red sea 3.37%
West Asian 2.5%
North East African 2.02%
GEDmatch ( 23andMe kit) eurogenes k13
West Asian 4.77%
Red sea 1.6%
North East African 1.81
MyHeritage (AncestryDNA kit)
1.5% ashkenazi
4.7% West asian
MyHeritage (23andme kit)
Ashkenazi 1%
West Asian 4.4%
Interesting. R1a z93 have for the most part low frequencies outside western Asia. I havent be able to pinpoint a likely origin for it. It might be a turk, North African, Jewish or romani. Even R1A from East Europe but the problem is all of these have low frequencies of R1a-Z93.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelmendasi
R2a, Paragroup R-M124*
So you seem to be a colonial mestizo. Maybe you could share the entire results in another thread. By the way, is your mtDNA native American?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelju
Yes, it is D1. It is very common In Latam to have an indigenous Maternal haplogroup.
Could be later from the Commonwealth times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.G
awaiting dna results, my money is on E1b haplogroup
Which company?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nato
ancestryQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Thanks, nobody had suggested that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harkonnen
I'm just gonna order the N1a-VL29 Panel now, I've been curious for a long time.
I will share the result for anyone that is interested.
my dad is j2b2
Post your results once they are in. What part(s) of Croatia are you from?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nato
i will. native of zagreb several generations back actually, which is pretty rare thing. lot of different ethnicities lived in town trough centuries, i know i have some slovene and czech blood other than croatQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
paternal line is probably vlach from balkans who migrated north, that's why i'm expecting E1b haplogroup.
According to 23andme it's R-F2935 which belongs to R-Z93 subclade. I have been told it's very uncommon in Greece.
You're the first European/non-Asian I've heard of that was R-Z93. In some parts of Eastern Europe, its present in quantities ranging from 1-5% according to this Eupedia map and its less than 1% in Greece according to it (but it may not be the best source). But yeah, its definitely quite rare in Greece.Quote:
Originally Posted by xripkan
23andMe only tells me I'm R-Z93. How did you find your sub-subclade? 23andMe doesn't go any deeper for me.
In my case 23andme pinpointed my subclade. I also uploaded my raw data morleydna.com and I got the same result as the most likely prediction. It could be from Proto-Greeks who belonged to R-Z93 but it's possible to be from Scythians or Indo-Iranians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mingle