Moldovan/Romanian GEDmatch Resuts

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Originally Posted by Leto

Did you decide not to add the self-described Russian from Bender, Transnistria?

He is obviously mixed with Vlachs and maybe something else. Both his Baltic and North Atlantic are too low for an unmixed Russian from Russia.

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No, I actually forgot about him. Will add in the next update.

Update v10
+Siret Valley Csango and Bender Transnistrian Russian

https://i.imgur.com/Ib19iHj.png

That person with surname Boichuk, I have a feeling, he is not mixed, and these are normal results for him, because he seems to be Carpathian Rusyn (Hutsul or Boyko).

https://ridni.org/karta/%D0%91%D0%BE...87%D1%83%D0%BA

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

That person with surname Boichuk, I have a feeling, he is not mixed, but these are normal results for him, because he seems to be Carpathian Rusyn (Hutsul or Boyko).

https://ridni.org/karta/%D0%91%D0%BE...87%D1%83%D0%BA

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Finally, here's the map. You never texted it back to me.
If Boichuk is a full Rusyn then I can still keep them around for reference, but just as with the full non-Moldavian/Romanian individuals, they won't be counted in the averages.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

Finally, here's the map. You never texted it back to me.
If Boichuk is a full Rusyn then I can still keep them around for reference, but just as with the full non-Moldavian/Romanian individuals, they won't be counted in the averages.

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Many Carpathian Slavs have such results, I saw and other results from that region, and many have visible Balkan influence (some more, some lesser). For this exist logical historical explanation.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

Finally, here's the map. You never texted it back to me.
If Boichuk is a full Rusyn then I can still keep them around for reference, but just as with the full non-Moldavian/Romanian individuals, they won't be counted in the averages.

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Carpathian Rusyn results:

Spoiler!

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 36.37
2 North_Atlantic 28.05
3 West_Med 13.56
4 East_Med 9.61
5 West_Asian 6.71
6 Red_Sea 2.15
7 Siberian 1.4
8 South_Asian 1.22
9 Amerindian 0.38
10 Oceanian 0.31
11 Sub-Saharan 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 2.16
2 Moldavian 5.12
3 Hungarian 5.86
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.37
5 South_Polish 6.86
6 Ukrainian 7.66
7 East_German 9.49
8 Austrian 10.04
9 Serbian 10.12
10 Polish 10.32
11 Southwest_Russian 11.4
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.92
13 Russian_Smolensk 12.63
14 Estonian_Polish 13.09
15 Belorussian 13.63
16 Romanian 14.11
17 Kargopol_Russian 15.36
18 Southwest_Finnish 15.51
19 Bulgarian 16.34
20 Estonian 17.23

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 38.33
2 North_Atlantic 25.02
3 West_Med 14.59
4 East_Med 8.75
5 West_Asian 6.9
6 Siberian 2.02
7 Red_Sea 1.9
8 East_Asian 1.1
9 Amerindian 0.51
10 South_Asian 0.5
11 Oceanian 0.39

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.6
2 Moldavian 5.32
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.47
4 Ukrainian 6.58
5 South_Polish 7.34
6 Hungarian 9.11
7 Polish 10.08
8 Southwest_Russian 10.13
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.67
10 Russian_Smolensk 11.73
11 Serbian 11.88
12 Estonian_Polish 12.12
13 East_German 12.43
14 Belorussian 13.02
15 Austrian 13.16
16 Kargopol_Russian 13.84
17 Romanian 15.33
18 Erzya 15.61
19 Southwest_Finnish 16.6
20 Estonian 16.91

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 35.15
2 North_Atlantic 27.47
3 West_Med 15.53
4 East_Med 10.63
5 West_Asian 4.92
6 Red_Sea 3.25
7 South_Asian 1.36
8 Siberian 0.95
9 East_Asian 0.55
10 Sub-Saharan 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.75
2 Moldavian 5.58
3 Hungarian 6.67
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.59
5 Serbian 9.09
6 South_Polish 9.21
7 Ukrainian 9.71
8 East_German 10.03
9 Austrian 10.29
10 Polish 12.34
11 Romanian 13.06
12 Southwest_Russian 13.61
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.24
14 Russian_Smolensk 14.64
15 Estonian_Polish 14.92
16 Bulgarian 15.2
17 Belorussian 15.53
18 Southwest_Finnish 17.35
19 Kargopol_Russian 17.45
20 West_German 18.02

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1 Baltic 34.92
2 North_Atlantic 26.87
3 West_Med 15.12
4 East_Med 15.09
5 West_Asian 5
6 East_Asian 0.88
7 Northeast_African 0.67
8 Amerindian 0.52
9 Siberian 0.4
10 Red_Sea 0.32
11 Oceanian 0.22

Least-squares method:

Using 1 population approximation:

1 Croatian @ 6,860456
2 Moldavian @ 7,886959
3 Hungarian @ 8,974471
4 Serbian @ 9,469107
5 South_Polish @ 12,745112
6 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 12,862446
7 Ukrainian @ 13,268209
8 Romanian @ 13,403067
9 Austrian @ 13,759909
10 East_German @ 14,04709
11 Bulgarian @ 15,384614
12 Polish @ 16,578473
13 Southwest_Russian @ 16,859848
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 17,684521
15 Russian_Smolensk @ 18,862002
16 Estonian_Polish @ 18,94036
17 Belorussian @ 19,403739
18 West_German @ 21,725138
19 Kargopol_Russian @ 21,87295
20 Southwest_Finnish @ 22,250612

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 37.91
2 North_Atlantic 26.73
3 West_Med 15.6
4 East_Med 11.7
5 West_Asian 5.36
6 Sub-Saharan 1.09
7 South_Asian 1
8 Amerindian 0.6

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.98
2 Moldavian 6.35
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.91
4 South_Polish 8.2
5 Ukrainian 8.22
6 Hungarian 8.35
7 Serbian 10.96
8 Polish 11.23
9 East_German 11.59
10 Southwest_Russian 11.92
11 Austrian 12.23
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.56
13 Russian_Smolensk 13.34
14 Estonian_Polish 13.49
15 Belorussian 14.18
16 Romanian 14.45
17 Bulgarian 16.21
18 Kargopol_Russian 16.4
19 Southwest_Finnish 17.44
20 Estonian 18.18

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 40.65
2 North_Atlantic 24.52
3 West_Med 14.67
4 East_Med 12.23
5 West_Asian 2.83
6 South_Asian 1.57
7 Siberian 1.36
8 Amerindian 0.91
9 Red_Sea 0.71
10 Oceanian 0.45
11 Northeast_African 0.07
12 East_Asian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 6.98
2 Ukrainian 7.8
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.95
4 Moldavian 8.86
5 South_Polish 8.88
6 Southwest_Russian 10.38
7 Polish 10.91
8 Hungarian 11.48
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.57
10 Estonian_Polish 11.77
11 Russian_Smolensk 12.1
12 Belorussian 12.62
13 Serbian 13.82
14 Kargopol_Russian 14.49
15 East_German 14.65
16 Austrian 15.55
17 Erzya 16.17
18 Lithuanian 16.84
19 Estonian 16.93
20 Romanian 17.03

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

Carpathian Rusyn results:

Spoiler!

1.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 36.37
2 North_Atlantic 28.05
3 West_Med 13.56
4 East_Med 9.61
5 West_Asian 6.71
6 Red_Sea 2.15
7 Siberian 1.4
8 South_Asian 1.22
9 Amerindian 0.38
10 Oceanian 0.31
11 Sub-Saharan 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 2.16
2 Moldavian 5.12
3 Hungarian 5.86
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.37
5 South_Polish 6.86
6 Ukrainian 7.66
7 East_German 9.49
8 Austrian 10.04
9 Serbian 10.12
10 Polish 10.32
11 Southwest_Russian 11.4
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.92
13 Russian_Smolensk 12.63
14 Estonian_Polish 13.09
15 Belorussian 13.63
16 Romanian 14.11
17 Kargopol_Russian 15.36
18 Southwest_Finnish 15.51
19 Bulgarian 16.34
20 Estonian 17.23

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 38.33
2 North_Atlantic 25.02
3 West_Med 14.59
4 East_Med 8.75
5 West_Asian 6.9
6 Siberian 2.02
7 Red_Sea 1.9
8 East_Asian 1.1
9 Amerindian 0.51
10 South_Asian 0.5
11 Oceanian 0.39

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.6
2 Moldavian 5.32
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.47
4 Ukrainian 6.58
5 South_Polish 7.34
6 Hungarian 9.11
7 Polish 10.08
8 Southwest_Russian 10.13
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.67
10 Russian_Smolensk 11.73
11 Serbian 11.88
12 Estonian_Polish 12.12
13 East_German 12.43
14 Belorussian 13.02
15 Austrian 13.16
16 Kargopol_Russian 13.84
17 Romanian 15.33
18 Erzya 15.61
19 Southwest_Finnish 16.6
20 Estonian 16.91

3.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 35.15
2 North_Atlantic 27.47
3 West_Med 15.53
4 East_Med 10.63
5 West_Asian 4.92
6 Red_Sea 3.25
7 South_Asian 1.36
8 Siberian 0.95
9 East_Asian 0.55
10 Sub-Saharan 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.75
2 Moldavian 5.58
3 Hungarian 6.67
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.59
5 Serbian 9.09
6 South_Polish 9.21
7 Ukrainian 9.71
8 East_German 10.03
9 Austrian 10.29
10 Polish 12.34
11 Romanian 13.06
12 Southwest_Russian 13.61
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.24
14 Russian_Smolensk 14.64
15 Estonian_Polish 14.92
16 Bulgarian 15.2
17 Belorussian 15.53
18 Southwest_Finnish 17.35
19 Kargopol_Russian 17.45
20 West_German 18.02

4.

1 Baltic 34.92
2 North_Atlantic 26.87
3 West_Med 15.12
4 East_Med 15.09
5 West_Asian 5
6 East_Asian 0.88
7 Northeast_African 0.67
8 Amerindian 0.52
9 Siberian 0.4
10 Red_Sea 0.32
11 Oceanian 0.22

Least-squares method:

Using 1 population approximation:

1 Croatian @ 6,860456
2 Moldavian @ 7,886959
3 Hungarian @ 8,974471
4 Serbian @ 9,469107
5 South_Polish @ 12,745112
6 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 12,862446
7 Ukrainian @ 13,268209
8 Romanian @ 13,403067
9 Austrian @ 13,759909
10 East_German @ 14,04709
11 Bulgarian @ 15,384614
12 Polish @ 16,578473
13 Southwest_Russian @ 16,859848
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 17,684521
15 Russian_Smolensk @ 18,862002
16 Estonian_Polish @ 18,94036
17 Belorussian @ 19,403739
18 West_German @ 21,725138
19 Kargopol_Russian @ 21,87295
20 Southwest_Finnish @ 22,250612

5.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 37.91
2 North_Atlantic 26.73
3 West_Med 15.6
4 East_Med 11.7
5 West_Asian 5.36
6 Sub-Saharan 1.09
7 South_Asian 1
8 Amerindian 0.6

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.98
2 Moldavian 6.35
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.91
4 South_Polish 8.2
5 Ukrainian 8.22
6 Hungarian 8.35
7 Serbian 10.96
8 Polish 11.23
9 East_German 11.59
10 Southwest_Russian 11.92
11 Austrian 12.23
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.56
13 Russian_Smolensk 13.34
14 Estonian_Polish 13.49
15 Belorussian 14.18
16 Romanian 14.45
17 Bulgarian 16.21
18 Kargopol_Russian 16.4
19 Southwest_Finnish 17.44
20 Estonian 18.18

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 40.65
2 North_Atlantic 24.52
3 West_Med 14.67
4 East_Med 12.23
5 West_Asian 2.83
6 South_Asian 1.57
7 Siberian 1.36
8 Amerindian 0.91
9 Red_Sea 0.71
10 Oceanian 0.45
11 Northeast_African 0.07
12 East_Asian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 6.98
2 Ukrainian 7.8
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.95
4 Moldavian 8.86
5 South_Polish 8.88
6 Southwest_Russian 10.38
7 Polish 10.91
8 Hungarian 11.48
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.57
10 Estonian_Polish 11.77
11 Russian_Smolensk 12.1
12 Belorussian 12.62
13 Serbian 13.82
14 Kargopol_Russian 14.49
15 East_German 14.65
16 Austrian 15.55
17 Erzya 16.17
18 Lithuanian 16.84
19 Estonian 16.93
20 Romanian 17.03

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Thanks, Ukrainians range from roughly 43% to 47% Baltic, so those are definitely mixed. Not sure about those who are between 40-43%, but those under 40% definitely have some recent minority genes in them.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

Thanks, Ukrainians range from roughly 43% to 47% Baltic, so those are definitely mixed. Not sure about those who are between 40-43%, but those under 40% definitely have some recent minority genes in them.

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Is not recent, is old, from Middle Ages (13-15th centuries). These type of results are specific only for Carpathian region, for local highlanders.

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

Is not recent, is old, from Middle Ages (13-15th centuries). These type of results are specific only for Carpathian region, for local highlanders.

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I see, so Ukrainians have another genetic substrate, which is specific to the mountainous region.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

I see, so Ukrainians have another genetic substrate, which is specific to the mountainous region.

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The Ukrainian state was tailored from several totally different regions historically speaking. So that shouldn't be a surprise.