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I was talking about the ancient Jutish people (who are extinct now), not modern day Jutes who are ethnic Danes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aren
In BC times, the islands were said to be inhabited by the Heruli whereas Scania was inhabited by the Danes.
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This is from wiki regarding their languageQuote:
Originally Posted by Mingle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JutesQuote:
The Germanic dialect which the Jutes spoke is unknown; there is currently no information or credible source to be found on their language. However, it is very likely Jutes had used a traditional Germanic form of the Runic alphabet. Most scholars agree that they spoke either a group of Proto-Norse languages or an Ingvaeonic language, but which dialect of Germanic language was spoken is pure speculation and remains a matter of dispute.
The fact that they assimilated so easily into the Danish sphere makes it more likely they spoke Proto-Norse.
Okay, well I didn't say they were West Germanic for sure but just possibly West Germanic. Either way, they were a different ethnicity from Danes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aren
I agree they were probably Norse, but them assimilating easily into Danes doesn't mean much. They also assimilated into the English. And back then, I don't think West Germanic and Norse would have been that different.
This is a pure Arabian:
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 42.7
2 Red_Sea 35.59
3 West_Asian 8.92
4 West_Med 6.13
5 Northeast_African 4.5
6 South_Asian 1.41
7 Oceanian 0.74
8 East_Asian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Saudi 1.9
2 Yemenite_Jewish 10.97
3 Bedouin 15.92
4 Egyptian 20.06
5 Palestinian 20.27
6 Jordanian 22.13
7 Samaritan 24.19
8 Syrian 24.88
9 Lebanese_Christian 26.1
10 Lebanese_Muslim 27.81
11 Libyan_Jewish 28.06
12 Lebanese_Druze 28.27
13 Tunisian_Jewish 28.53
14 Kurdish_Jewish 30.56
15 Iranian_Jewish 30.86
16 Cyprian 31.14
17 Tunisian 31.53
18 Sephardic_Jewish 31.94
19 Algerian 32.36
20 Algerian_Jewish 32.91
Bedouins are quite distant to Saudis. I wonder what the reason for that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Don't know. What I do know is that the unmixed Levantine people are very different from the ArabiansQuote:
Originally Posted by Mingle
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 44.58
2 West_Asian 18.87
3 West_Med 15.76
4 Red_Sea 13.73
5 North_Atlantic 3.49
6 Northeast_African 2.37
7 South_Asian 0.9
8 Oceanian 0.3
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Samaritan 1.94
2 Lebanese_Christian 3.97
3 Palestinian 6.4
4 Lebanese_Muslim 6.81
5 Syrian 7.35
6 Lebanese_Druze 7.88
7 Jordanian 7.93
8 Cyprian 8.2
9 Tunisian_Jewish 11.29
10 Libyan_Jewish 11.72
11 Bedouin 12.24
12 Kurdish_Jewish 12.41
13 Iranian_Jewish 13.12
14 Sephardic_Jewish 14.8
15 Assyrian 14.91
16 Algerian_Jewish 15.69
17 Italian_Jewish 15.99
18 Egyptian 17.28
19 Georgian_Jewish 18.39
20 Ashkenazi 19.39
I think this one is not an actual Samaritan, but rather a Levantine Christian. Not sure though.
This is actually a very interesting result.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Erzya +50% Italian_Abruzzo @ 5.168154
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Finnish +25% Kurdish_Jewish +25% Romanian @ 1.547066
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Finnish + Finnish + Kurdish_Jewish + Romanian @ 1.547066
2 Assyrian + Finnish + Finnish + Romanian @ 1.655256
3 Assyrian + East_Finnish + Romanian + Southwest_Finnish @ 1.683870
4 Finnish + Finnish + Iranian_Jewish + Romanian @ 1.743096
5 East_Finnish + Kurdish_Jewish + Romanian + Southwest_Finnish @ 1.768692
6 East_Finnish + Kurdish_Jewish + Serbian + Southwest_Finnish @ 1.830812
7 East_Finnish + Iranian_Jewish + Romanian + Southwest_Finnish @ 1.857141
8 Finnish + Finnish + Kurdish_Jewish + Serbian @ 1.896885
9 Assyrian + Finnish + Romanian + Southwest_Finnish @ 1.904034
10 Erzya + Hungarian + Kurdish_Jewish + North_Swedish @ 1.908889
11 Assyrian + East_Finnish + Serbian + Southwest_Finnish @ 1.936288
12 Lebanese_Druze + Lithuanian + North_German + Tatar @ 1.972561
13 Lebanese_Christian + Lithuanian + North_German + Tatar @ 1.995247
14 Finnish + Kurdish_Jewish + Romanian + Southwest_Finnish @ 2.002987
15 East_Finnish + Georgian_Jewish + Romanian + Southwest_Finnish @ 2.021206
16 Lebanese_Druze + Swedish + Tatar + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.040864
17 Erzya + Finnish + Kurdish_Jewish + West_German @ 2.052058
18 Finnish + Iranian_Jewish + Romanian + Southwest_Finnish @ 2.054478
19 East_Finnish + Iranian_Jewish + Serbian + Southwest_Finnish @ 2.078556
20 Assyrian + Bulgarian + Finnish + Finnish @ 2.084526
this is not k13Quote:
Originally Posted by Konpirike
has the calculator changed since then or something ?
Population
North_Atlantic 24.45
Baltic 35.38
West_Med 15.36
West_Asian 8.24
East_Med 11.97
Red_Sea 2.10
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.61
Amerindian 0.89
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
North_Atlantic 23.43
Baltic 6.52
West_Med 18.53
West_Asian 5.98
East_Med 15.97
Red_Sea 2.57
South_Asian 2.15
East_Asian 1.00
Siberian -
Amerindian 8.58
Oceanian 0.30
Northeast_African 0.67
Sub-Saharan 14.31
That moment you don't know how to deal with this 2.15 South Asian and 1.00 East Asian thinking you have some Central Asian great great grandfather but has 0 on Siberian. =/
The East Asian is most likely from the Amerindians or maybe just noise. The South Asian could be from anywhere, even some Northern Europeans score 1-2%. You're about 10% native American and 15% SSA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaos One
Well, in fact I'm very mixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Italian from one side, Iberian + Berber + Native American + SSA + Central Asian by another. The fact is, my Central Asian side is a bit far (like I said, my great great grandfather came from there), but it seems I didn't get too much.
What exactly do you mean by Central Asian? Are you not half colonial Brazilian? They are mostly Portuguese (+some Sephardic), African and Amerindian, from what I know. The only Asian people in South America I can think of are the Japanese.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaos One
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 31.95
2 West_Med 22.01
3 East_Med 15.7
4 Baltic 8.88
5 Amerindian 6.66
6 Sub-Saharan 5.34
7 West_Asian 4.2
8 Red_Sea 3.12
9 Northeast_African 1.4
10 Siberian 0.75
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Extremadura 11.22
2 Portuguese 11.35
3 North_Italian 11.55
4 Spanish_Murcia 12.06
5 Spanish_Galicia 12.36
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 12.99
7 Spanish_Andalucia 13.1
8 Spanish_Valencia 13.24
9 Spanish_Cataluna 13.51
10 Tuscan 13.89
11 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 13.95
12 Spanish_Cantabria 15.09
13 French 16.16
14 Spanish_Aragon 16.25
15 Southwest_French 16.97
16 West_Sicilian 18.25
17 Italian_Abruzzo 18.97
18 Greek_Thessaly 19.22
19 Romanian 19.58
20 West_German 20.34
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.8% Spanish_Extremadura + 9.2% North_Amerindian @ 6.78
2 92% Spanish_Extremadura + 8% Pima @ 6.93
3 91.7% Spanish_Extremadura + 8.3% Mayan @ 6.94
4 91.6% Portuguese + 8.4% Mayan @ 6.97
5 90.8% Portuguese + 9.2% North_Amerindian @ 6.99
6 92% Portuguese + 8% Pima @ 7.04
7 92.9% Spanish_Extremadura + 7.1% Karitiana @ 7.08
8 92.8% Portuguese + 7.2% Karitiana @ 7.15
9 91.9% North_Italian + 8.1% Mayan @ 7.61
10 90.5% Spanish_Murcia + 9.5% North_Amerindian @ 7.7
11 92.2% North_Italian + 7.8% Pima @ 7.72
12 91.4% Spanish_Murcia + 8.6% Mayan @ 7.72
13 93% North_Italian + 7% Karitiana @ 7.76
14 91.7% Spanish_Murcia + 8.3% Pima @ 7.76
15 91.2% North_Italian + 8.8% North_Amerindian @ 7.8
16 88.8% Spanish_Extremadura + 11.2% West_Greenlander @ 7.83
17 89.9% Spanish_Extremadura + 10.1% East_Greenlander @ 7.86
18 92.6% Spanish_Murcia + 7.4% Karitiana @ 7.91
19 90.4% Spanish_Galicia + 9.6% North_Amerindian @ 8.03
20 91.2% Spanish_Galicia + 8.8% Mayan @ 8.03
Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.
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Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Italian @ 10.968994
2 Spanish_Extremadura @ 11.144577
3 Portuguese @ 11.222945
4 Spanish_Murcia @ 12.159572
5 Spanish_Galicia @ 12.466536
6 Spanish_Andalucia @ 13.134656
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 13.258679
8 Spanish_Valencia @ 13.496271
9 Spanish_Cataluna @ 13.812449
10 Tuscan @ 14.241987
11 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 14.329991
12 Spanish_Cantabria @ 15.915557
13 French @ 17.114250
14 Spanish_Aragon @ 17.137568
15 Southwest_French @ 18.074629
16 West_Sicilian @ 19.980671
17 Italian_Abruzzo @ 20.709837
18 Greek_Thessaly @ 21.042274
19 Romanian @ 21.176014
20 West_German @ 22.132576
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Portuguese +50% Tuscan @ 9.551929
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Spanish_Extremadura +25% Tunisian +25% West_German @ 7.719141
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++
1 French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Norwegian + South_Italian @ 7.503917
2 French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Orcadian + South_Italian @ 7.531378
3 French_Basque + Orcadian + South_Italian + Tunisian @ 7.541371
4 Ashkenazi + French_Basque + Irish + Mozabite_Berber @ 7.547353
5 Ashkenazi + French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Orcadian @ 7.563505
6 French_Basque + Norwegian + South_Italian + Tunisian @ 7.564773
7 French_Basque + Irish + South_Italian + Tunisian @ 7.583224
8 Ashkenazi + French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + West_Scottish @ 7.587999
9 Algerian + French_Basque + Orcadian + South_Italian @ 7.589920
10 Algerian + French_Basque + Norwegian + South_Italian @ 7.599928
11 Danish + French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + South_Italian @ 7.603766
12 French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + South_Italian + Swedish @ 7.604485
13 French_Basque + South_Italian + Tunisian + West_Scottish @ 7.607691
14 French_Basque + Irish + Mozabite_Berber + South_Italian @ 7.611138
15 French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + North_Dutch + South_Italian @ 7.625756
16 French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + South_Italian + West_Scottish @ 7.642322
17 Central_Greek + French_Basque + Orcadian + Tunisian @ 7.645514
18 Central_Greek + French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Orcadian @ 7.661725
19 Algerian + French_Basque + Irish + South_Italian @ 7.665450
20 French_Basque + Orcadian + Tunisian + West_Sicilian @ 7.666054
No, São Paulo State has a huge Italian community. From my mother side all great grandfathers are Italian (one side is Slovenian) and by father side 2 are Italians, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Well, the other father side is a "mess". One side is Iberian mixed with Berbers (dunno if Morisco in fact or mixed later, anyway); There are SSA and Ameridian mix too, and one Great Grandfather came from Central Asia, but was labelled as Lebanese (this was very common at that time).
That's why it's hard to get what is what here.
Lebanon was part of the Ottoman Empire back in the day, it's a Near Eastern country. However, there are some Turkmens in Syria, but they are not Christians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaos One
Post your MDLP World results
1 South_and_West_European 32.51Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
2 North_and_East_European 16.45
3 Middle_East 13.64
4 Sub_Saharian 13.53
5 Caucaus_Parsia 11.54
6 Mesoamerican 5.76
7 Arctic_Amerind 2.16
8 Paleo_African 1.72
9 East_Asian 1.29
10 Indian 1.22
Yeah, but the 1st part of Lebanese/Syrian immigration here was a total mess. Many of them changed their surname to a point that some people actually have Middle Eastern roots but don't know about it. My situation was a bit more complicated, since it seems they labelled my ancestor as "arab" but he came from a different country/place, not Syria or Lebanon.
I provided the link to that thread (MDLP World)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaos One
Oh, didn't see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Posted.
Population
North_Atlantic 36.90
Baltic 9.37
West_Med 26.86
West_Asian 2.73
East_Med 15.65
Red_Sea 3.36
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.78
Oceanian 0.45
Northeast_African 1.87
Sub-Saharan 2.04
From another forum - Ashkenazi Jewish father, NW European (British?) mother:
Father:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 35.78
2 West_Med 19.04
3 North_Atlantic 16.71
4 West_Asian 10.89
5 Baltic 8.63
6 Red_Sea 5.33
7 South_Asian 1.95
8 East_Asian 1.13
9 Siberian 0.32
10 Northeast_African 0.14
11 Oceanian 0.08
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 2.87
2 East_Sicilian 6.42
3 Italian_Jewish 6.68
4 South_Italian 6.8
5 Sephardic_Jewish 7.56
6 Algerian_Jewish 7.57
7 Central_Greek 7.94
8 West_Sicilian 8.24
9 Italian_Abruzzo 9.54
10 Tunisian_Jewish 11
11 Libyan_Jewish 11.67
12 Greek_Thessaly 11.95
13 Tuscan 14.2
14 Cyprian 14.68
15 Lebanese_Muslim 18.14
16 Syrian 19.35
17 Bulgarian 20
18 Samaritan 20.26
19 Palestinian 20.47
20 Jordanian 20.61
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.1% Ashkenazi + 19.9% Italian_Jewish @ 2.4
2 83.2% Ashkenazi + 16.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.49
3 82.6% Ashkenazi + 17.4% South_Italian @ 2.56
4 90.4% Ashkenazi + 9.6% West_Sicilian @ 2.75
5 90.2% Ashkenazi + 9.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.76
6 92% Ashkenazi + 8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.76
7 98.2% Ashkenazi + 1.8% Sardinian @ 2.81
8 94.5% Ashkenazi + 5.5% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.81
9 95.9% Ashkenazi + 4.1% Cyprian @ 2.81
10 97.1% Ashkenazi + 2.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.81
11 96.1% Ashkenazi + 3.9% Tuscan @ 2.82
12 98.8% Ashkenazi + 1.2% French_Basque @ 2.82
13 98.5% Ashkenazi + 1.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.83
14 98.4% Ashkenazi + 1.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.83
15 98.5% Ashkenazi + 1.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.84
16 98.4% Ashkenazi + 1.6% Armenian @ 2.84
17 98.1% Ashkenazi + 1.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.84
18 98.8% Ashkenazi + 1.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.85
19 98.2% Ashkenazi + 1.8% North_Italian @ 2.85
20 98.5% Ashkenazi + 1.5% Assyrian @ 2.85
Mother:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 53.05
2 Baltic 22.93
3 West_Med 13.76
4 West_Asian 3.46
5 East_Med 3.35
6 South_Asian 1.87
7 Red_Sea 1.16
8 Amerindian 0.32
9 Northeast_African 0.06
10 Sub-Saharan 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_English 2.5
2 West_Scottish 2.88
3 Southeast_English 3.18
4 Orcadian 3.2
5 Irish 3.63
6 North_Dutch 5.2
7 Danish 5.59
8 Norwegian 6.97
9 North_German 7.87
10 South_Dutch 8.68
11 Swedish 9.64
12 West_German 10.23
13 French 13.13
14 North_Swedish 15.65
15 Austrian 15.99
16 East_German 16.29
17 Spanish_Cataluna 19.6
18 Southwest_French 20.31
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 20.65
20 Hungarian 20.74
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.7% Southwest_English + 40.3% West_Scottish @ 2.13
2 55.2% West_Scottish + 44.8% Southeast_English @ 2.18
3 92.2% West_Scottish + 7.8% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.18
4 92.2% West_Scottish + 7.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.18
5 91.6% West_Scottish + 8.4% Southwest_French @ 2.21
6 91.8% West_Scottish + 8.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.22
7 81.8% Southwest_English + 18.2% Danish @ 2.22
8 91.9% West_Scottish + 8.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.23
9 67.3% Southwest_English + 32.7% Orcadian @ 2.24
10 91.5% West_Scottish + 8.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.24
11 92.1% West_Scottish + 7.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.25
12 86.1% Southwest_English + 13.9% Norwegian @ 2.26
13 92.6% West_Scottish + 7.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.26
14 92.6% West_Scottish + 7.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.26
15 92.5% West_Scottish + 7.5% Portuguese @ 2.29
16 96.7% West_Scottish + 3.3% Sardinian @ 2.31
17 83.5% Southwest_English + 16.5% North_Dutch @ 2.32
18 93.1% West_Scottish + 6.9% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.33
19 93.5% West_Scottish + 6.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.34
20 71.5% Southwest_English + 28.5% Southeast_English @ 2.35
Himself:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 33.82
2 East_Med 18.32
3 West_Med 16.89
4 Baltic 16.08
5 West_Asian 8.39
6 Red_Sea 3.46
7 South_Asian 2.53
8 Northeast_African 0.32
9 East_Asian 0.15
10 Oceanian 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 9.36
2 French 11.08
3 Romanian 11.61
4 Tuscan 11.62
5 Portuguese 11.82
6 Serbian 12.06
7 Spanish_Galicia 12.83
8 Spanish_Cataluna 12.95
9 Spanish_Extremadura 13.01
10 Bulgarian 13.39
11 West_German 13.47
12 Spanish_Murcia 13.5
13 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 13.68
14 Spanish_Valencia 14.16
15 South_Dutch 14.68
16 Greek_Thessaly 14.88
17 Spanish_Andalucia 15.03
18 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 15.49
19 Austrian 15.59
20 Italian_Abruzzo 15.95
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.4% West_Sicilian + 43.6% Danish @ 1.78
2 50.5% Southwest_English + 49.5% Ashkenazi @ 1.89
3 66.7% West_German + 33.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.05
4 55.8% Danish + 44.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.12
5 50.1% Southeast_English + 49.9% East_Sicilian @ 2.13
6 54.5% West_Sicilian + 45.5% North_German @ 2.13
7 66.9% West_German + 33.1% Italian_Jewish @ 2.18
8 64.7% South_Dutch + 35.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.19
9 64.9% South_Dutch + 35.1% Italian_Jewish @ 2.2
10 56.7% West_Sicilian + 43.3% North_Dutch @ 2.25
11 59.1% West_Sicilian + 40.9% Norwegian @ 2.29
12 51.5% Ashkenazi + 48.5% West_Scottish @ 2.29
13 67.7% West_German + 32.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.31
14 60.4% South_Dutch + 39.6% Ashkenazi @ 2.31
15 51.2% Ashkenazi + 48.8% Irish @ 2.34
16 50.2% Danish + 49.8% South_Italian @ 2.38
17 55.5% North_Dutch + 44.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.38
18 52.4% Southeast_English + 47.6% Ashkenazi @ 2.43
19 68% South_Dutch + 32% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.45
20 65.7% South_Dutch + 34.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.46
1 Baltic 25.89
2 West_Asian 17.24
3 North_Atlantic 16.87
4 East_Med 12.20
5 West_Med 8.12
6 Siberian 7.04
7 South_Asian 5.97
8 East_Asian 3.08
9 Amerindian 1.66
10 Sub-Saharan 1.37
1 Afghan_Tadjik + Central_Greek + Tatar + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.701071
2 Afghan_Turkmen + Iranian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 2.744978
3 Afghan_Tadjik + Central_Greek + Southwest_Russian + Tatar @ 2.746326
4 Afghan_Tadjik + Greek_Thessaly + Tatar + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.754206
5 Afghan_Turkmen + Azeri + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 2.765681
6 Afghan_Tadjik + Chuvash + South_Italian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.803468
7 Afghan_Turkmen + Iranian + South_Polish + Ukrainian @ 2.838987
8 Chuvash + South_Italian + Tadjik + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.839390
9 Afghan_Tadjik + Greek_Thessaly + Southwest_Russian + Tatar @ 2.883994
10 Afghan_Turkmen + Azeri + South_Polish + Ukrainian @ 2.909516
11 Erzya + South_Italian + Tadjik + Tatar @ 2.910737
12 Afghan_Turkmen + Kurdish + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 2.930358
13 Afghan_Tadjik + East_Sicilian + Tatar + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.931744
14 Ashkenazi + Tadjik + Tatar + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.941683
15 Afghan_Turkmen + Azeri + Lithuanian + Moldavian @ 2.957744
16 Afghan_Tadjik + Central_Greek + Chuvash + South_Polish @ 2.960991
17 Afghan_Turkmen + Iranian + Polish + Ukrainian @ 2.972953
18 Afghan_Tadjik + Chuvash + Italian_Abruzzo + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.983652
19 Afghan_Tadjik + Ashkenazi + Tatar + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.985310
20 Afghan_Tadjik + Erzya + Italian_Abruzzo + Tatar @ 2.993720
You are pretty mixed, I think more than 2 ethnicities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakha
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 36.25
2 West_Asian 34.01
3 West_Med 11.64
4 Red_Sea 7.95
5 South_Asian 5.19
6 Baltic 3.33
7 North_Atlantic 0.6
8 Northeast_African 0.37
9 East_Asian 0.36
10 Siberian 0.18
11 Amerindian 0.12
12 Oceanian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Georgian_Jewish 2.87
2 Assyrian 3.73
3 Armenian 6.21
4 Kurdish_Jewish 6.97
5 Iranian_Jewish 7.18
6 Turkish 10.15
7 Azeri 10.17
8 Kurdish 10.18
9 Iranian 10.9
10 Lebanese_Muslim 11.63
11 Syrian 13.14
12 Cyprian 15.76
13 Lebanese_Druze 16.27
14 Lebanese_Christian 16.47
15 Jordanian 17.73
16 Samaritan 17.86
17 Palestinian 19.34
18 Georgian 20.9
19 Kumyk 21.08
20 Abhkasian 22.05
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97% Georgian_Jewish + 3% Chamar @ 1.75
2 97.1% Georgian_Jewish + 2.9% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 1.77
3 96.9% Georgian_Jewish + 3.1% Chenchu @ 1.78
4 97% Georgian_Jewish + 3% Sakilli @ 1.78
5 96.9% Georgian_Jewish + 3.1% North_Kannadi @ 1.82
6 96.9% Georgian_Jewish + 3.1% Kol @ 1.83
7 96.8% Georgian_Jewish + 3.2% Uttar_Pradesh @ 1.84
8 96.9% Georgian_Jewish + 3.1% Dusadh @ 1.87
9 97.1% Georgian_Jewish + 2.9% Piramalai @ 1.87
10 96.8% Georgian_Jewish + 3.2% Dharkar @ 1.91
11 96.9% Georgian_Jewish + 3.1% Kanjar @ 1.92
12 97% Georgian_Jewish + 3% Kurumba @ 1.93
13 96.9% Georgian_Jewish + 3.1% Velamas @ 1.95
14 96.6% Georgian_Jewish + 3.4% Bangladeshi @ 1.96
15 93.3% Assyrian + 6.7% Kalash @ 1.98
16 92.7% Assyrian + 7.3% Balochi @ 2
17 92.7% Assyrian + 7.3% Brahui @ 2.04
18 96.7% Georgian_Jewish + 3.3% Kshatriya @ 2.07
19 96.7% Georgian_Jewish + 3.3% Brahmin_UP @ 2.09
20 96.8% Georgian_Jewish + 3.2% Gujarati @ 2.14
Nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelati
We are both West Asian shifted, but my results are not trustable it's the 23andme v5 chip(only 57k SNP:s used).
You are using Ancestry right? How many SNP:s used?
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 38.53
2 West_Asian 35.63
3 Red_Sea 9.45
4 West_Med 8.52
5 South_Asian 4.8
6 Baltic 2.17
7 Northeast_African 0.42
8 Oceanian 0.4
9 East_Asian 0.08
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Georgian_Jewish 3.65
2 Assyrian 4.52
3 Kurdish_Jewish 6.01
4 Iranian_Jewish 6.12
5 Armenian 7.7
6 Kurdish 10.52
7 Iranian 10.86
8 Azeri 11.7
9 Lebanese_Muslim 12.99
10 Turkish 13.02
11 Syrian 14.28
12 Lebanese_Druze 16.14
13 Lebanese_Christian 16.83
14 Cyprian 18
15 Jordanian 18.08
16 Samaritan 18.56
17 Palestinian 19.44
18 Georgian 21.64
19 Abhkasian 22.55
20 Kumyk 22.75
What's SNP? :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Aren
Check at the bottom left corner when you see your results in Gedmatch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelati
Btw you are Orthodox Syriac or Nestorian? And from which part of Turkey?
My family is Chaldean Catholic from Arbel.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 40.87
2 South_Asian 32.08
3 East_Med 8.5
4 North_Atlantic 7.92
5 Baltic 7.79
6 Siberian 2.25
7 East_Asian 0.3
8 Red_Sea 0.26
9 Sub-Saharan 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Afghan_Pashtun 7.03
2 Kalash 8.65
3 Pathan 9.12
4 Burusho 12.16
5 Makrani 12.97
6 Punjabi_Jat 13.27
7 Balochi 13.31
8 Sindhi 13.7
9 Brahui 14.23
10 Tadjik 16.44
11 Afghan_Tadjik 17.86
12 Turkmen 24.66
13 Tabassaran 25.8
14 Brahmin_UP 26.5
15 Gujarati 26.93
16 Lezgin 27.13
17 Chechen 27.46
18 Kumyk 27.63
19 Iranian 28.25
20 Kabardin 28.63
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.9% Sindhi + 33.1% Lezgin @ 3.18
2 65.8% Sindhi + 34.2% Tabassaran @ 3.25
3 68.2% Afghan_Pashtun + 31.8% Sindhi @ 3.3
4 67.4% Sindhi + 32.6% Chechen @ 3.83
5 72.5% Punjabi_Jat + 27.5% Abhkasian @ 4.17
6 87.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 12.6% Velamas @ 4.25
7 67.7% Sindhi + 32.3% Kumyk @ 4.32
8 86.7% Kalash + 13.3% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.37
9 59.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 40.7% Pathan @ 4.42
10 72.1% Punjabi_Jat + 27.9% Georgian @ 4.43
11 83% Afghan_Pashtun + 17% Gujarati @ 4.44
12 88% Afghan_Pashtun + 12% Kurumba @ 4.44
13 89.2% Afghan_Pashtun + 10.8% Piramalai @ 4.49
14 68.6% Sindhi + 31.4% Kabardin @ 4.58
15 84.7% Kalash + 15.3% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.6
16 88.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 11.2% Dusadh @ 4.64
17 60.5% Tabassaran + 39.5% Velamas @ 4.65
18 50.2% Gujarati + 49.8% Lezgin @ 4.66
19 68.8% Sindhi + 31.2% Adygei @ 4.68
20 84.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 15.6% Kshatriya @ 4.7
Nestorian. Hakkari. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Aren
Have you tired using the DNA Land data?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mingle
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
I used red for regions that together exceed 50%:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 30.41
2 West_Med 19.77
3 East_Med 17.78
4 Red_Sea 9.68
5 Baltic 7.54
6 Sub-Saharan 6.89
7 Northeast_African 5.23
8 West_Asian 1.46
9 East_Asian 0.51
10 Oceanian 0.45
11 Siberian 0.29
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Portuguese 13.81
2 Spanish_Extremadura 13.9
3 North_Italian 14.31
4 Spanish_Galicia 14.56
5 Tuscan 14.69
6 Spanish_Murcia 14.88
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 15.37
8 Spanish_Andalucia 16.27
9 Spanish_Valencia 16.84
10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 16.98
11 Spanish_Cataluna 16.99
12 West_Sicilian 17.58
13 Spanish_Cantabria 18.57
14 Italian_Abruzzo 19.18
15 French 19.29
16 Spanish_Aragon 19.41
17 Greek_Thessaly 20.08
18 Southwest_French 20.98
19 East_Sicilian 21.24
20 Romanian 21.74
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.1% Algerian + 42.9% Southwest_English @ 3.05
2 56.5% Mozabite_Berber + 43.5% Southwest_English @ 3.21
3 58.2% Mozabite_Berber + 41.8% West_Scottish @ 3.49
4 58.8% Algerian + 41.2% West_Scottish @ 3.53
5 55.9% Mozabite_Berber + 44.1% Southeast_English @ 3.56
6 55.7% Tunisian + 44.3% Southwest_English @ 3.58
7 56.6% Algerian + 43.4% Southeast_English @ 3.76
8 58.8% Algerian + 41.2% Irish @ 3.95
9 58.2% Mozabite_Berber + 41.8% Irish @ 3.96
10 57.6% Mozabite_Berber + 42.4% Orcadian @ 3.98
11 54.3% French + 45.7% Mozabite_Berber @ 3.99
12 58.2% Algerian + 41.8% Orcadian @ 4.02
13 57.4% Tunisian + 42.6% West_Scottish @ 4.07
14 53.6% French + 46.4% Algerian @ 4.12
15 57.4% Tunisian + 42.6% Irish @ 4.49
16 55.1% Tunisian + 44.9% Southeast_English @ 4.54
17 55.6% Moroccan + 44.4% Southwest_English @ 4.6
18 51.4% Mozabite_Berber + 48.6% South_Dutch @ 4.62
19 55% Moroccan + 45% Southeast_English @ 4.66
20 56.8% Tunisian + 43.2% Orcadian @ 4.67
Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Italian @ 14.540989
2 Portuguese @ 14.568113
3 Spanish_Extremadura @ 14.659849
4 Tuscan @ 15.311040
5 Spanish_Galicia @ 15.515146
6 Spanish_Murcia @ 15.732808
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 16.461559
8 Spanish_Andalucia @ 17.228527
9 Spanish_Valencia @ 17.825537
10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 18.143644
11 Spanish_Cataluna @ 18.145090
12 West_Sicilian @ 19.385639
13 Spanish_Cantabria @ 20.107294
14 French @ 20.886253
15 Spanish_Aragon @ 20.911783
16 Italian_Abruzzo @ 21.033823
17 Greek_Thessaly @ 21.940432
18 Southwest_French @ 22.688560
19 Romanian @ 23.629307
20 East_Sicilian @ 23.801506
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Algerian +50% French @ 4.811087
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Algerian +25% Spanish_Murcia +25% West_Scottish @ 2.827434
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++
1 Algerian + Algerian + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 2.827434
2 Algerian + Algerian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish @ 2.842292
3 Algerian + Mozabite_Berber + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 2.903144
4 Algerian + Algerian + Spanish_Aragon + West_Scottish @ 2.916223
5 Algerian + Mozabite_Berber + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish @ 2.950845
6 Algerian + Algerian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + West_Scottish @ 3.052932
7 Algerian + Algerian + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 3.057506
8 Algerian + Algerian + Irish + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.073377
9 Algerian + Algerian + Irish + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.082224
10 Algerian + Algerian + Irish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.103928
11 Algerian + Spanish_Aragon + Tunisian + West_Scottish @ 3.104942
12 Algerian + Mozabite_Berber + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 3.126715
13 Algerian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Tunisian + West_Scottish @ 3.139683
14 Algerian + Algerian + Spanish_Extremadura + West_Scottish @ 3.147127
15 Algerian + Algerian + Southwest_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.147675
16 Algerian + Mozabite_Berber + Spanish_Aragon + West_Scottish @ 3.149380
17 Algerian + Algerian + Portuguese + West_Scottish @ 3.161010
18 Algerian + Irish + Mozabite_Berber + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.161196
19 Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 3.167615
20 Mozabite_Berber + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Tunisian + West_Scottish @ 3.180182
Are you half Maghrebi, half French?Quote:
Originally Posted by AtlantoMediterranean
AlmostQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
To my knowledge 1/2 Maghrebi, 7/16 Belgian and 1/16 Spanish.
Despite of our very different backgrounds, our Eurogenes K13 scores are pretty similar, for the most part.Quote:
Originally Posted by AtlantoMediterranean
Interesting. Still you are at least 10% SSA.Quote:
Originally Posted by AtlantoMediterranean
Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 34.53
2 West_Asian 29.92
3 Red_Sea 10.75
4 West_Med 9.51
5 South_Asian 3.89
6 Baltic 2.33
7 Sub-Saharan 2.21
8 North_Atlantic 1.98
9 Northeast_African 1.41
10 Siberian 1.29
11 Oceanian 1.26
Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.
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Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Assyrian @ 7.524894
2 Georgian_Jewish @ 8.072983
3 Kurdish_Jewish @ 8.366365
4 Iranian_Jewish @ 8.388033
5 Lebanese_Muslim @ 10.395115
6 Syrian @ 10.605646
7 Turkish @ 10.704908
8 Armenian @ 11.659947
9 Azeri @ 11.701787
10 Iranian @ 13.498036
11 Kurdish @ 14.011524
12 Jordanian @ 15.297912
13 Cyprian @ 16.757572
14 Lebanese_Druze @ 17.338118
15 Lebanese_Christian @ 17.496786
16 Palestinian @ 17.831934
17 Samaritan @ 18.237112
18 Bedouin @ 20.031528
19 Tunisian_Jewish @ 23.493563
20 Libyan_Jewish @ 23.850504
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Kurdish +50% Syrian @ 3.472009
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kurdish +25% Palestinian +25% Syrian @ 3.179758
Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Azeri + Bedouin + Georgian_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish @ 2.339469
2 Bedouin + Iranian_Jewish + Iranian_Jewish + Ossetian @ 2.491824
3 Balkar + Bedouin + Iranian_Jewish + Iranian_Jewish @ 2.499412
4 Adygei + Bedouin + Iranian_Jewish + Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.532942
5 Balkar + Bedouin + Iranian_Jewish + Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.536456
6 Armenian + Egyptian + Georgian_Jewish + Iranian @ 2.553645
7 Assyrian + Azeri + Bedouin + Georgian_Jewish @ 2.558801
8 Adygei + Bedouin + Iranian_Jewish + Iranian_Jewish @ 2.559072
9 Georgian_Jewish + Iranian + Syrian + Syrian @ 2.574348
10 Bedouin + Georgian + Iranian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.577039
11 Egyptian + Georgian_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish + Iranian @ 2.584598
12 Bedouin + Iranian_Jewish + Kurdish_Jewish + Ossetian @ 2.622163
13 Bedouin + Georgian + Iranian + Samaritan @ 2.636628
14 Abhkasian + Egyptian + Iranian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.664334
15 Assyrian + Bedouin + Iranian + Turkish @ 2.667312
16 Egyptian + Georgian + Iranian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.674177
17 Armenian + Assyrian + Bedouin + Iranian @ 2.679111
18 Bedouin + Georgian_Jewish + Iranian + Turkish @ 2.681364
19 Abhkasian + Bedouin + Iranian + Samaritan @ 2.689346
20 Armenian + Azeri + Bedouin + Georgian_Jewish @ 2.692401
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Yes but it makes sense Maghrebins have 20% SSAQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Yes it's interesting it means that different mixes can give similar averages.Quote:
Originally Posted by alnortedelsur
https://zupimages.net/up/18/15/f28x.png
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.89
2 West_Med 19.27
3 Sub-Saharan 17.2
4 Red_Sea 16.84
5 Northeast_African 11.03
6 North_Atlantic 9.91
7 East_Asian 0.86
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Mozabite_Berber 7.55
2 Algerian 8.82
3 Tunisian 9.59
4 Moroccan 11.1
5 Egyptian 21.17
6 Libyan_Jewish 25.68
7 Algerian_Jewish 26.15
8 Tunisian_Jewish 26.66
9 Bedouin 26.67
10 Sephardic_Jewish 28.07
11 Italian_Jewish 28.7
12 East_Sicilian 28.81
13 West_Sicilian 28.85
14 Ashkenazi 28.9
15 Jordanian 29.22
16 South_Italian 29.83
17 Palestinian 30.35
18 Syrian 30.6
19 Central_Greek 31.07
20 Italian_Abruzzo 31.53
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.9% Algerian + 9.1% Bantu_S.E. @ 2.69
2 91% Algerian + 9% Bantu_S.W. @ 2.72
3 90.3% Algerian + 9.7% Biaka_Pygmy @ 2.73
4 91.3% Algerian + 8.7% Mandenka @ 2.78
5 89.7% Algerian + 10.3% Luhya @ 2.84
6 89.6% Algerian + 10.4% Bantu_N.E. @ 2.86
7 92% Algerian + 8% Yoruban @ 2.97
8 89.6% Algerian + 10.4% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 3.45
9 91.5% Mozabite_Berber + 8.5% Bantu_N.E. @ 3.62
10 92.2% Mozabite_Berber + 7.8% Biaka_Pygmy @ 3.62
11 91.7% Mozabite_Berber + 8.3% Luhya @ 3.63
12 92.6% Mozabite_Berber + 7.4% Bantu_S.E. @ 3.64
13 92.8% Mozabite_Berber + 7.2% Bantu_S.W. @ 3.67
14 93.1% Mozabite_Berber + 6.9% Mandenka @ 3.72
15 93.6% Mozabite_Berber + 6.4% Yoruban @ 3.84
16 89.5% Moroccan + 10.5% Mandenka @ 3.9
17 90.2% Moroccan + 9.8% Yoruban @ 3.91
18 91.5% Mozabite_Berber + 8.5% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 3.92
19 89.2% Moroccan + 10.8% Bantu_S.W. @ 4.06
20 89% Moroccan + 11% Bantu_S.E. @ 4.12
Well, if it weren't for the SSA and the slightly higher level of Red Sea admixture you would be pretty much within the European cluster.Quote:
Originally Posted by AtlantoMediterranean