Eurogenes ANE K7 - post your results

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Originally Posted by Graham

Generally on most Autosomals, I sit north or North West of most people on this forum, on this it's just North. If you want to find out East and West in parts of Western/Central/Northern Europe. We are better doing a modern Calculator like K15 Eurogenes. The priority of this K7 or K8 is for older populations and how they move.

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Do you have an idea why the Belgians are lower than France on this one (at least on WHG alone). I checked the average of France, there s a lot of people with 64, even 65 WHG, it seems very high since a Norman gets 63, some look like Basque, some like Brits, with 64 WHG, 14-15 ANE,..

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1051326962

Me and Sardinian are the same southern shifted. Stutgart Neolithic is more than us :eek:

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Originally Posted by Petalpusher

Do you have an idea why the Belgians are lower than France on this one (at least on WHG alone). I checked the average of France, there s a lot of people with 64, even 65 WHG, it seems very high since a Norman gets 63, some look like Basque, some like Brits, with 64 WHG, 14-15 ANE,..

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In K8, WHG and ENF is better split.

On K7 Neolithics have both high WHG and ENF. Thus the WHG is harder to calculate for what is North or not & blurred.

It was something noticed yesterday looking at it.

So K8 is NE/ENF dominates the Neolithic Stuttgart. It's more accurate.

France probably scores more WHG than it should do.

K8 Eurogenes.

	ANE	NE	WHG	SEA	East_Eurasian	Oce	Pygmy	Sub-Saharan
France	11.48	45.65	41.66	0.36	0.31	0.21	0.19	0.13
Stuttgart Neolithic	0.01	72.19	27.80	0.01	0.01	0.01	0.01	0.01
South Netherlands	13.25	43.05	42.60	0.38	0.54	0.00	0.18	0.00
North Netherlands	14.96	37.80	46.80	0.44	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00

Also think that North France and South France should be split on how they are labeled, there is difference. If you plot them on a pca you can see the stretch.

Population
ANE 12.85%
ASE 1.12%
WHG-UHG 58.55%
East_Eurasian 0.72%
West_African 0.58%
East_African -
ENF 26.14%

Update : http://postimg.org/image/xdpb8qqm7/full/

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Originally Posted by Graham

In K8, WHG and ENF is better split.

On K7 Neolithics have both high WHG and ENF. Thus the WHG is harder to calculate for what is North or not & blurred.

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It's something i noticed too. About the results, i was thinking it also could be due to the Basques, since we usually only have a general France sample + a southwest. The paradox is as we go SW in France, the WHG increase as people begin to get related to Basques, so the South looks different but as average as France when everything adds up, it probably look more like a northern half average (with Breton around there) than a real average.

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Originally Posted by Simargl

Update : http://postimg.org/image/xdpb8qqm7/full/

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Where am I!?!?!?

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Originally Posted by MINARD777

Where am I!?!?!?

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There you go http://postimg.org/image/6qoot7ewj/full/

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Originally Posted by MINARD777

Where am I!?!?!?

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You didn't input your West African i think, i guess it's 0 anyway if it makes 100%. Though the African is not really taken into account in 2D like this, it would also throw away people too much, like out of our screens with a couple %.

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Originally Posted by Petalpusher

It's something i noticed too. About the results, i was thinking it also could be due to the Basques, since we usually only have a general France sample + a southwest. The paradox is as we go SW in France, the WHG increase as people begin to get related to Basques, so the South looks different but as average as France when everything adds up, it probably look more like a northern half average (with Breton around there) than a real average.

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If you check out K36 and the ancient genomes. There is something that you'll notice. Neolithic and West Hunter Gatherers only share one single component of all the different European components. And that is Basque.