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03-10-2021, 03:24 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunai

I finally managed to create brand new Hungarian averages for K12b. Each regional average is based on 10 samples, specifically selected those which were the closest to their respective regional K13 averages, while the national average is based on 40 samples, and is a weighed aggregate of the 4 regional ones. Therefore please delete these:
HUN_Szekely,5.69,2.23,0.86,0.54,27.11,38.92,0.47,0 .07,3.83,1.74,18.51,0.02
Hungarians,4.10,0.70,0.00,0.00,27.00,48.40,0.30,0. 00,3.00,0.30,16.20,0.00

And add these:

Code:

Hungarian,5.69,1.19,0.59,0.21,28.09,44.65,0.65,0.04,3.31,0.24,15.16,0.02 Hungarian_Alföld,5.24,1.39,0.63,0.22,28.05,45.73,0.66,0.04,3.19,0.17,14.68,0 Hungarian_North,5.16,1.31,0.6,0.26,27.34,46.81,0.55,0.01,2.91,0.13,14.93,0 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest,6.02,0.85,0.55,0.19,28.36,44.2,0.67,0.06,3.37,0.23,15.2,0.02 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely,6.06,2.42,0.62,0.18,27.89,40.32,0.6,0,4.06,0.73,16.94,0.09

This is fucking awesome, thank you so much. Before the old ones are deleted, I'm gonna run your brand new pops against them just to see how good the original reference is.
03-10-2021, 03:38 PM
Dunai

Interesting that this calculator makes me be more Slavic than any other calculator, but still the only one which captures my Alföld ancestry so closely. I will post my K12b vs K13 results:

K12b
Distance to: Dunai
2.20782699 Hungarian_North
2.64499527 Hungarian_Alföld
2.98667039 Hungarian
3.10958197 Slovenian
3.23913569 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
3.58714371 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
4.48988864 Croat
5.47313439 Slovak
5.58246361 Bosnian
5.88043366 Moldavian_North
5.97503975 Czech
6.35617023 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
9.26466945 Serb
9.58030793 Moldavian_Center
9.78249968 Sorb_Lusatia
10.19071636 German
10.97535876 Ukrainian
11.85410056 Polish_mixed
12.12514330 Bavarian_German
12.32261742 Dutch

Target: Dunai
Distance: 1.0064% / 1.00635418 | ADC: 0.5x RC
60.2 Hungarian_North
19.3 Moldavian_North
17.1 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
3.4 Tatar_Kazan

K13
Distance to: Dunai
4.48241007 Austrian
4.62222890 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
5.37693221 Hungarian
6.12456529 Slovenian
6.52157190 Hungarian_Alföld
6.84295258 Croat_North
6.92678858 German_East
7.09174168 Hungarian_Northern
7.71532242 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
7.73996770 Csángó-Ceangău
7.93761929 Czech
8.01355102 Székely
8.20033536 Croat_West
8.30510084 Croat
8.42333070 Slovak
9.43855921 German
9.79133290 Croat_East
10.25001463 Croat_South
10.78504057 France_Alsace
11.28222939 Swiss_German

Target: Dunai
Distance: 1.4883% / 1.48833351 | ADC: 0.5x RC
67.3 Austrian
27.5 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
4.0 Shors
1.2 Kazakh
03-10-2021, 03:49 PM
Dunai

Interesting results and distances for Hungarian national average according to K12b, Asiatic element is quite high:

Distance to: Hungarian
2.20977374 Slovenian
4.50063329 Croat
5.58943647 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
5.71425411 Czech
5.83219513 Bosnian
6.28487072 Slovak
6.53079628 Moldavian_North
8.70864513 German
8.78604006 Serb
9.58056888 Moldavian_Center
9.63002077 Bavarian_German
10.15270900 Dutch
10.46689543 Sorb_Lusatia
11.53324326 German_Northwest
12.47044907 Montenegrin
12.77285794 Ukrainian
13.10724609 Polish_mixed
13.50904882 French_Northeast
13.57984536 English_South
13.82315449 Swedish
13.88327771 French_North
13.98614314 English_mixed
14.03847926 Danish
14.13306053 PL_Warmia-Masuria
14.19300180 English_North
14.28854086 French_Northwest
14.40492277 Icelandic
14.46091283 Romanian
14.73363838 Macedonian

Target: Hungarian
Distance: 1.0110% / 1.01096769 | ADC: 0.5x RC
83.9 Slovenian
7.8 French_Northeast
7.1 Tatar_Kazan
1.2 Lipka_Tatar
03-10-2021, 04:03 PM
Lucas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunai

I finally managed to create brand new Hungarian averages for K12b. Each regional average is based on 10 samples, specifically selected those which were the closest to their respective regional K13 averages, while the national average is based on 40 samples, and is a weighed aggregate of the 4 regional ones. Therefore please delete these:
HUN_Szekely,5.69,2.23,0.86,0.54,27.11,38.92,0.47,0 .07,3.83,1.74,18.51,0.02
Hungarians,4.10,0.70,0.00,0.00,27.00,48.40,0.30,0. 00,3.00,0.30,16.20,0.00

And add these:

Code:

Hungarian,5.69,1.19,0.59,0.21,28.09,44.65,0.65,0.04,3.31,0.24,15.16,0.02 Hungarian_Alföld,5.24,1.39,0.63,0.22,28.05,45.73,0.66,0.04,3.19,0.17,14.68,0 Hungarian_North,5.16,1.31,0.6,0.26,27.34,46.81,0.55,0.01,2.91,0.13,14.93,0 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest,6.02,0.85,0.55,0.19,28.36,44.2,0.67,0.06,3.37,0.23,15.2,0.02 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely,6.06,2.42,0.62,0.18,27.89,40.32,0.6,0,4.06,0.73,16.94,0.09

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03-10-2021, 04:06 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunai

Interesting results and distances for Hungarian national average according to K12b, Asiatic element is quite high:

Distance to: Hungarian
2.20977374 Slovenian
4.50063329 Croat
5.58943647 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
5.71425411 Czech
5.83219513 Bosnian
6.28487072 Slovak
6.53079628 Moldavian_North
8.70864513 German
8.78604006 Serb
9.58056888 Moldavian_Center
9.63002077 Bavarian_German
10.15270900 Dutch
10.46689543 Sorb_Lusatia
11.53324326 German_Northwest
12.47044907 Montenegrin
12.77285794 Ukrainian
13.10724609 Polish_mixed
13.50904882 French_Northeast
13.57984536 English_South
13.82315449 Swedish
13.88327771 French_North
13.98614314 English_mixed
14.03847926 Danish
14.13306053 PL_Warmia-Masuria
14.19300180 English_North
14.28854086 French_Northwest
14.40492277 Icelandic
14.46091283 Romanian
14.73363838 Macedonian

Target: Hungarian
Distance: 1.0110% / 1.01096769 | ADC: 0.5x RC
83.9 Slovenian
7.8 French_Northeast
7.1 Tatar_Kazan
1.2 Lipka_Tatar

Bloggen and Turul Karom style Türkic nation :D
03-10-2021, 04:12 PM
Dunai

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

Bloggen and Turul Karom style Türkic nation :D

This calculator definitely does capture a strong Turkic substratum in Modern Hungarians, unlike K13, in this case I do wonder which is more reliable.

K13
Target: Hungarian
Distance: 0.7080% / 0.70799160 | ADC: 0.5x RC
35.4 Croat_North
25.7 Slovenian
23.7 Csángó-Ceangău
8.8 Austrian
6.4 Croat_West
03-10-2021, 04:14 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunai

This calculator definitely does capture a strong Turkic substratum in Modern Hungarians, unlike K13, in this case I do wonder which is more reliable.

K13
Target: Hungarian
Distance: 0.7080% / 0.70799160 | ADC: 0.5x RC
35.4 Croat_North
25.7 Slovenian
23.7 Csángó-Ceangău
8.8 Austrian
6.4 Croat_West

Well, 8% Tatar is probably equivalent to 24% Csango.
03-10-2021, 04:15 PM
Jana

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunai

This calculator definitely does capture a strong Turkic substratum in Modern Hungarians, unlike K13, in this case I do wonder which is more reliable.

K13
Target: Hungarian
Distance: 0.7080% / 0.70799160 | ADC: 0.5x RC
35.4 Croat_North
25.7 Slovenian
23.7 Csángó-Ceangău
8.8 Austrian
6.4 Croat_West

Well Csango have lot of mongoloid compared to rest of people in wider region.
03-10-2021, 04:21 PM
Dunai

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

Well, 8% Tatar is probably equivalent to 24% Csango.

Could be true, if I take out Hungarians from Transylvania, who are the closest to Csángós, this is what they get on K13:
Target: Csángó-Ceangău
Distance: 0.9087% / 0.90874540 | ADC: 0.5x RC
52.1 Hungarian_Alföld
26.0 Romania_Moldavia_North
13.0 Swiss_French
8.9 Crimean_Tatar
03-10-2021, 04:22 PM
Peterski

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

Well, 8% Tatar is probably equivalent to 24% Csango.

Remove Csango from the reference populations, run again, and see what replaces them.

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