Interesting, that no Vandal / Przeworsk samples was genotyped so far. Another stupid proxy I guess. Maybe really some modern Germanic sample, as I joked above:)Quote:
Originally Posted by firemonkey
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Interesting, that no Vandal / Przeworsk samples was genotyped so far. Another stupid proxy I guess. Maybe really some modern Germanic sample, as I joked above:)Quote:
Originally Posted by firemonkey
Damn, there's been a ton of updates since I last checked this site. Updated my closest ancient populations in my sig. Here's some other stuff:
20 Closest Matches
https://i.imgur.com/zVAdv7y.png
Modern PCA Plot (no clue why this always plots me closest to Danes)
https://i.imgur.com/Q1vUfR7.png
Ancient PCA Plot
https://i.imgur.com/h1AZc9F.png
Europe Map
https://i.imgur.com/B1qYyYi.png
75. Philip Calvert Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) ..... 11.64 - 2099
Top 80 % match vs all users
Found a direct family link.
Philip Calvert, 5th Proprietary Governor of Maryland is my 13th cousin 8 times removed.
You → Terence Maxwell Cowley your father → Edith Dell Trowse his mother → Doris Dell Fauser her mother → Louisa Florence Manners her mother → Henry Manners her father → Henry Manners his father → Joseph Hillier Manners his father → Mary Manners his mother → David Manners her father → Joseph Manners his father → Henry Manners his father → James Manners his father → Thomas Manners his father → Charles Manners his father → Sir Thomas Manners his father → Sir Thomas Manners, 1st Earl of Rutland his father → Anne St Leger his mother → Anne of York, Duchess of Exeter her mother → Cecily Neville, Duchess of York her mother → Ralph Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland her father → Maud de Percy, Lady Neville his mother → Isabel Aton her sister → Lady Catherine Eure her daughter → Anne de Rokeby her daughter → Agnes Rokeby her daughter → Lady Alice Conyers her daughter → Margaret Danby her daughter → Ralph Danby, of Yafforth her son → Alice Acklome his daughter → Lady Margaret Acklome her daughter → Walter Hawksworth her son → Alice Hawksworth his daughter → Alicia Calvert her daughter → Sir George Calvert, 1st Baron Baltimore her son → Philip Calvert, 5th Proprietary Governor of Maryland
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
Updated.
https://i.imgur.com/Gw3F6d5.jpg
What is Indo-Greek kingdom Iron Agre Butkara 10 AD? :confused:
I got that as well and a match from 1700AD in American map :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
It is closest to us according to new update. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Moje ime
https://i.imgur.com/3ZP0WAN.jpg
I don't understand how we are related with that central Asian kingdom?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Bactrian_Kingdom
Honestly I didn't see this field before. It must be Slavic sample.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
"by Female DNA " column is interesting (can't take screenshots now, too lazy). Litvania is there number one. I'm not sure what that exactly means.
The sample is probably of a Greek with some extra Steppe. It's a Greco-Bactrian after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
I haven't seen this yet so I'm just guessing:Quote:
Originally Posted by Moje ime
By female DNA = mtDNA
By male DNA = Y-DNA
You probably you have the same mtDNA clade as "Litvania".
They have added a new feature called DNA Spotlight. You can check if you match with some samples and it tells you how closer you are compared to other users registered there.
Me:
Scythian Ukraine
mtDNA Haplogroup: J2b1a6
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1a2
Deep Dive Match! 10% closer than others who share this deep dive sample
Genetic Distance: 21.278
Sample Match! 61% closer than others users
Scythian Ukraine
mtDNA Haplogroup: N1b1a
Genetic Distance: 18.063
Sample Match! 83% closer than others users
Scythian Moldova
mtDNA Haplogroup: U5b2a3
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1a2
Genetic Distance: 18.560
Sample Match! 62% closer than others users
Western-Scythian Black Sea
mtDNA Haplogroup: W3a1
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1a2-Z93
Genetic Distance: 19.186
Sample Match! 61% closer than others users
I got very high percentages here:Quote:
Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow
https://i.imgur.com/bwiliHe.jpg
Why not just add Haplogroups to all samples...
https://i.imgur.com/5cgpja2.png
https://i.imgur.com/PFdx7tP.png
https://i.imgur.com/C4Z4DVZ.jpg?1
According to this Im Scythian as Fuck !
Scythian Ukraine
mtDNA Haplogroup: J2b1a6
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1a2
Genetic Distance: 14.000
Sample Match! 94% closer than others users
Scythian Ukraine
mtDNA Haplogroup: N1b1a
Genetic Distance: 13.000
Sample Match! 94% closer than others users
Scythian Moldova
mtDNA Haplogroup: U5b2a3
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1a2
Genetic Distance: 15.757
Sample Match! 83% closer than others users
Western-Scythian Black Sea
mtDNA Haplogroup: W3a1
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1a2-Z93
Genetic Distance: 9.0201
Sample Match! 99% closer than others users
YB3597161 - scy009 Scythian Ukraine mtDNA Haplogroup: J2b1a6Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1a2 700 bc - genetically Slavic
XL5763554 - scy010 Scythian Ukraine mtDNA Haplogroup: N1b1a 700 bc - genetically Germanic
CG2611850 - scy301 Scythian Moldova mtDNA Haplogroup: U5b2a3 Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1a2 300 bc - genetically Germanic + Caucasian
MX4400262 - MJ34 Western-Scythian Black Sea mtDNA Haplogroup: W3a1 Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1a2-Z93 -genetically Germanic + Caucasian
those are the "Gelonians" from the spotlight
i also have deep dive matches with all except the 2nd. idk if it means anything, mytrueancestry is not a very seriuos website.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
Scythian Ukraine
mtDNA Haplogroup: J2b1a6
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1a2
Deep Dive Match! 22% closer than others who share this deep dive sample
Genetic Distance: 19.804
Sample Match! 73% closer than others users
Scythian Ukraine
mtDNA Haplogroup: N1b1a
Genetic Distance: 14.576
Sample Match! 92% closer than others users
Scythian Moldova
mtDNA Haplogroup: U5b2a3
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1a2
Deep Dive Match! 30% closer than others who share this deep dive sample
Genetic Distance: 19.755
Sample Match! 52% closer than others users
Western-Scythian Black Sea
mtDNA Haplogroup: W3a1
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1a2-Z93
Deep Dive Match! 63% closer than others who share this deep dive sample
Genetic Distance: 19.576
Sample Match! 58% closer than others users
Am I allowed to WeWuzzKangzzz right now? :cool:
https://i.imgur.com/VbtdZa4.png
Looks like my E-V13 comes from Alex Mac soldiers
Indo-Greek Kingdom Iron Age Butkara (10 AD) ..... 19.93 - I6549
Top86% match vs all users
Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 20.1 - MA2198
Top91% match vs all users
Hellenic Ottoman (1500 AD) ..... 21.34 - MA2196
Top99% match vs all users
Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 22.96- NS3b
Top77% match vs all users
Greco-Bactrian Tajikistan (50 BC) ..... 22.98 - I12293
Top99% match vs all users
Kushan Ksirov Tajikistan (20 BC) ..... 23.14 - I12294
Top99% match vs all users
Pontic Greek (300 AD) ..... 26.8 - Ker1
Top86% match vs all users
Yea not very serious, even these deep dive matches are strange. You get a 19.576 distance and a ”deep dive match” for the black sea one, while I don't get a deep dive but have 19.186 distance. Same with the Scythian Moldova, mine is one point lower at 18.56 but no ”deep dive” whatever that even is.Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
deep dive is a snp/CM match, like one-to-one autosomal matching on gedmatch, it's meant for finding cousins up to 7th degree basicallyQuote:
Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow
Ah, I see now.Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
I wouldn't pay for this website still tho
Father
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Mother
Attachment 91544
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Me
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Attachment 91547
Celt + Ostrogoth (6.559)
Ostrogoth + Frank (6.676)
Ostrogoth (9.906)
Frank (10.09)
Celt (10.15)
1. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 5.479
Top 99% match vs all users
My highest match below
Western Scythian Black Sea
Kit MX4400262
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 28.31
2 Baltic 26.1
3 West_Asian 17
4 East_Med 8.59
5 West_Med 7.64
6 Siberian 4.86
7 South_Asian 3.09
8 Amerindian 2.01
9 Oceanian 1.33
10 Northeast_African 1.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 12.44
2 Moldavian 12.75
3 Serbian 13.18
4 Romanian 14.43
5 Croatian 14.52
6 Austrian 14.79
7 East_German 15.91
8 Bulgarian 16.57
9 Tatar 17.28
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.7
11 West_German 17.97
12 South_Polish 18.03
13 Ukrainian 19.25
14 South_Dutch 19.63
15 North_German 19.82
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 20.95
17 Southwest_Russian 21.23
18 Polish 21.26
19 North_Swedish 21.71
20 French 21.79
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.6% North_Swedish + 40.4% Kumyk @ 3.79
2 61.6% North_Swedish + 38.4% Balkar @ 4.53
3 62.4% North_Swedish + 37.6% Adygei @ 4.73
4 60.5% North_Swedish + 39.5% Kabardin @ 4.8
5 72.3% Hungarian + 27.7% Tadjik @ 4.86
6 68.4% North_Swedish + 31.6% Abhkasian @ 5
7 65.7% North_Swedish + 34.3% Kurdish @ 5.11
8 62.9% North_Swedish + 37.1% North_Ossetian @ 5.15
9 67.1% North_Swedish + 32.9% Georgian @ 5.24
10 63.1% North_Swedish + 36.9% Azeri @ 5.28
11 63.7% North_Swedish + 36.3% Ossetian @ 5.4
12 60.7% North_Swedish + 39.3% Turkmen @ 5.42
13 58.3% Southwest_Finnish + 41.7% Kumyk @ 5.51
14 73.1% Hungarian + 26.9% Tabassaran @ 5.51
15 64.3% Southwest_Finnish + 35.7% Kurdish @ 5.54
16 65.9% North_Swedish + 34.1% Iranian @ 5.56
17 62.3% Southwest_Finnish + 37.7% Ossetian @ 5.58
18 61.7% Southwest_Finnish + 38.3% Azeri @ 5.67
19 75.4% Hungarian + 24.6% Afghan_Tadjik @ 5.72
20 65.8% Southwest_Finnish + 34.2% Georgian @ 5.74
My 2nd highest match
Scythian Ukraine mtdna N1b1a
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 37.65
2 Baltic 33.21
3 West_Med 18.21
4 West_Asian 10.6
5 Sub-Saharan 0.32
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 East_German 7.7
2 Austrian 8.96
3 Hungarian 11.63
4 North_German 13.06
5 Croatian 13.18
6 South_Polish 13.48
7 Swedish 13.56
8 West_German 13.78
9 South_Dutch 13.95
10 North_Swedish 13.99
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.4
12 North_Dutch 15.04
13 Moldavian 15.08
14 Danish 15.15
15 Ukrainian 15.23
16 Norwegian 15.25
17 Polish 15.5
18 Orcadian 16.04
19 Southeast_English 16.3
20 Southwest_Finnish 16.48
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 36.2% French_Basque @ 6.28
2 69.8% Polish + 30.2% French_Basque @ 6.71
3 64.7% Russian_Smolensk + 35.3% French_Basque @ 6.8
4 73.6% South_Polish + 26.4% French_Basque @ 6.96
5 55.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 44.7% Southwest_English @ 7.17
6 72% Ukrainian_Lviv + 28% French_Basque @ 7.19
7 63.8% Southwest_Russian + 36.2% French_Basque @ 7.37
8 53.6% Ukrainian + 46.4% Southwest_English @ 7.41
9 70.7% Ukrainian + 29.3% French_Basque @ 7.41
10 54.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 45.6% Irish @ 7.48
11 59.5% Lithuanian + 40.5% French_Basque @ 7.51
12 96% East_German + 4% French_Basque @ 7.58
13 97.7% East_German + 2.3% Ossetian @ 7.61
14 97.6% East_German + 2.4% Kabardin @ 7.62
15 97.8% East_German + 2.2% North_Ossetian @ 7.62
16 97.7% East_German + 2.3% Chechen @ 7.63
17 97.9% East_German + 2.1% Balkar @ 7.63
18 93.9% East_German + 6.1% Irish @ 7.64
19 97.9% East_German + 2.1% Tabassaran @ 7.64
20 98.6% East_German + 1.4% Balochi @ 7.65
My 3rd highest match Scythian Ukraine
Ydna J2b1a6
Kit YB3597161
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 38.18
2 North_Atlantic 33.22
3 West_Med 14.35
4 West_Asian 6.11
5 East_Med 3.43
6 Red_Sea 2.23
7 Sub-Saharan 1.12
8 Amerindian 0.93
9 Oceanian 0.35
10 South_Asian 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Polish 6.18
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.01
3 East_German 7.23
4 Croatian 7.88
5 Ukrainian 7.89
6 Polish 7.98
7 Hungarian 8.67
8 Austrian 9.34
9 Moldavian 11.2
10 Russian_Smolensk 11.52
11 Southwest_Finnish 11.58
12 Estonian_Polish 12.22
13 Southwest_Russian 12.24
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.47
15 Belorussian 12.57
16 North_Swedish 12.81
17 Estonian 14.25
18 Finnish 14.79
19 Kargopol_Russian 15.24
20 Serbian 15.57
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.2% Polish + 20.8% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.44
2 83.6% Polish + 16.4% French_Basque @ 2.45
3 78.7% Polish + 21.3% Southwest_French @ 2.49
4 77.5% Russian_Smolensk + 22.5% French_Basque @ 2.6
5 81.1% Polish + 18.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.62
6 80.2% Polish + 19.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.67
7 78.4% Polish + 21.6% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.81
8 74.1% Polish + 25.9% French @ 2.82
9 78.7% Polish + 21.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.83
10 79.2% Polish + 20.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.84
11 79.8% Polish + 20.2% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.85
12 77.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22.9% Southwest_English @ 2.89
13 80.9% Polish + 19.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.9
14 76.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 23.9% French_Basque @ 2.98
15 52.9% East_German + 47.1% Polish @ 3.01
16 72.2% Russian_Smolensk + 27.8% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.02
17 71.6% Russian_Smolensk + 28.4% Southwest_French @ 3.02
18 80.3% Polish + 19.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.03
19 78.9% Polish + 21.1% Portuguese @ 3.03
20 80.2% Polish + 19.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.07
4th match Scythian Moldova
Kit CG2611850
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 34.99
2 Baltic 26.02
3 West_Asian 15.53
4 West_Med 14.27
5 East_Med 8.64
6 Amerindian 0.55
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian 8.33
2 Hungarian 9.26
3 East_German 10.26
4 West_German 10.89
5 Serbian 11
6 South_Dutch 12.43
7 Moldavian 12.74
8 Croatian 13.1
9 Romanian 13.27
10 North_German 13.96
11 French 14.7
12 Bulgarian 15.98
13 Danish 16.61
14 North_Dutch 16.74
15 Southeast_English 16.99
16 South_Polish 17.02
17 Swedish 17.29
18 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.67
19 Orcadian 17.81
20 Norwegian 18.05
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.5% Austrian + 15.5% Ossetian @ 3.38
2 84.5% Austrian + 15.5% North_Ossetian @ 3.61
3 86.9% Austrian + 13.1% Abhkasian @ 3.62
4 83.1% Austrian + 16.9% Chechen @ 3.63
5 86.2% Austrian + 13.8% Georgian @ 3.63
6 82.8% Austrian + 17.2% Tabassaran @ 3.63
7 83.4% Austrian + 16.6% Lezgin @ 3.74
8 84.3% Austrian + 15.7% Adygei @ 3.74
9 84% Austrian + 16% Balkar @ 3.77
10 83.6% Austrian + 16.4% Kabardin @ 3.87
11 83.2% East_German + 16.8% Georgian @ 4.02
12 81.5% East_German + 18.5% Ossetian @ 4.04
13 84% East_German + 16% Abhkasian @ 4.05
14 83.6% Austrian + 16.4% Kumyk @ 4.2
15 81.6% East_German + 18.4% North_Ossetian @ 4.48
16 81.2% East_German + 18.8% Adygei @ 4.51
17 80.9% East_German + 19.1% Balkar @ 4.57
18 80.1% East_German + 19.9% Chechen @ 4.65
19 80.4% East_German + 19.6% Lezgin @ 4.73
20 79.8% East_German + 20.2% Tabassaran @ 4.75
They all seem very different overall.Quote:
Originally Posted by oszkar07
seem to range from Slav to GermanoSlav , the East German and Austrian population clustering I assume means Germano Slav.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow
The interesting thing is they seem to be matching with East Euro / Slavic members as opposed to West and Nth Europeans.
Well it's clear that geographically we are close to them, and the less Farmer input one has the closer they are to these Scythians. But while the first guy has relatable Atlantic and Baltic to a Romanian somewhat, his West Asian is huge with very low East and West Med. The 2nd one doesn't even have East Med but his West Med and West Asian are high. I haven't seen a single contemporary population in Europe or Caucus/Turkey/Near East who has these proportions on average, even close.Quote:
Originally Posted by oszkar07
Yes the proportions are interesting , the west asian shows up in his mixed mode with populations from caucasus.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow
I guess one assumption could be that possibly ancient populations had different proportions to what exist these days.
This atypical Pole from Ivano Frankivsk close with J2b1a6 Scythian, he has highest North Atlantic I ever saw in this region Poles usually range 23-29% North AtlanticQuote:
Scythian Ukraine
Ydna J2b1a6
Kit YB3597161
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 38.18
2 North_Atlantic 33.22
3 West_Med 14.35
4 West_Asian 6.11
5 East_Med 3.43
6 Red_Sea 2.23
7 Sub-Saharan 1.12
8 Amerindian 0.93
9 Oceanian 0.35
10 South_Asian 0.06
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 40.05
2 North_Atlantic 35.2
3 West_Med 10.95
4 East_Med 4.58
5 West_Asian 4.4
6 Amerindian 1.87
7 Red_Sea 1.72
8 Oceanian 0.86
9 Northeast_African 0.38
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Polish 5.72
2 Polish 6.71
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.77
4 Ukrainian 7.97
5 Southwest_Finnish 8.46
6 East_German 8.58
7 Hungarian 9.86
8 Croatian 10.01
9 Russian_Smolensk 10.22
10 North_Swedish 10.49
11 Belorussian 10.52
12 Estonian_Polish 10.69
13 Austrian 10.78
14 Southwest_Russian 11.23
15 Estonian 11.68
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.71
17 Finnish 12.02
18 Moldavian 13.6
19 Lithuanian 14.29
20 Kargopol_Russian 14.36
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.9% Polish + 24.1% Southeast_English @ 2.04
2 55.8% Lithuanian + 44.2% West_German @ 2.23
3 77.7% Polish + 22.3% Southwest_English @ 2.27
4 75.9% Polish + 24.1% Orcadian @ 2.28
5 74% Polish + 26% North_Dutch @ 2.3
6 77.5% Polish + 22.5% West_Scottish @ 2.36
7 65.9% Estonian_Polish + 34.1% Southeast_English @ 2.38
8 76.8% Polish + 23.2% Irish @ 2.41
9 61.9% Lithuanian + 38.1% French @ 2.42
10 56.8% Lithuanian + 43.2% South_Dutch @ 2.42
11 67% Russian_Smolensk + 33% Southeast_English @ 2.43
12 71.3% Polish + 28.7% North_German @ 2.47
13 67.8% Estonian_Polish + 32.2% Southwest_English @ 2.47
14 73.9% Polish + 26.1% Danish @ 2.48
15 74.9% Polish + 25.1% South_Dutch @ 2.56
16 73.7% Polish + 26.3% Norwegian @ 2.63
17 74.2% Polish + 25.8% West_German @ 2.64
18 68.9% Russian_Smolensk + 31.1% Southwest_English @ 2.67
19 52.1% Austrian + 47.9% Estonian @ 2.68
20 66.7% Estonian_Polish + 33.3% Irish @ 2.73
You got those Hellenic Roots !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by oszkar07
The Gelonians (also known as Helonians) were known by the ancient Greek historian Herodotus to occupy northwestern Scythia. They were originally Hellenes who settled among the Budinis (perhaps a Finnic-Votic tribe ruled by the Scythians) and were bilingual in both Greek and the Scythian language. Their capital was called Gelonus or Helonus, from the Greek word for market town. Scythians revered the stag which was believed to speed the spirits of the dead on their way.
they had high west asian(caucasian) because Caucasus is right there next to the steppe and they mixed with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by oszkar07
and low west/east med because those components are mostly neolithic farmer, and neolithic farmers didn't have a big influence on Eastern Europe.
i am more interested why are some more Germanic and some more Slavic and how is that distributed. maybe that's a WHG/EHG difference.
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I’m closer to Scythian than I am to Kivean Rus. Being 75 Slavic I thought I’d be closer to Rus. And I keep matching all Sarmatians and Scythian kits in the 96-99 percentile.
https://i.imgur.com/BkueJXF.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Mingle
It's Latvia actually and result is for Serbia, not my personal.
So that would imply most Serbian female ancestry is from there?
Greek is also closer match there than in male ancestry (12 vs 21 distance)
I'd say male ancestry is more similar with autosomal, female is more eastern according to this.
https://i.imgur.com/jS1ajSr.png
https://i.imgur.com/ysRRXA3.png
:confused:
depends how deep into subclades they go. because most europeans have different versions of mtdna H and U.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moje ime
Kievan Rus is Sunghir 6, genetically close to modern Ukrainian. He not really Russian this is a misnomer
Kievan Rus (Sunghir 6 T005824) Y-DNA I2
K13
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 47
2 North_Atlantic 27.31
3 West_Med 12.79
4 East_Med 5.09
5 West_Asian 4.96
6 Siberian 1.21
7 Amerindian 1.17
8 Oceanian 0.46
9 Northeast_African 0.01
10 Red_Sea 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 3.63
2 Polish 4.33
3 Estonian_Polish 4.59
4 Russian_Smolensk 4.72
5 Southwest_Russian 4.91
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.4
7 Belorussian 5.89
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.93
9 South_Polish 6
10 Kargopol_Russian 8.68
11 Lithuanian 8.81
12 Estonian 9.46
13 Croatian 10.94
14 Erzya 11.04
15 Finnish 12
16 East_Finnish 12.5
17 Southwest_Finnish 12.81
18 Moldavian 13.92
19 Hungarian 15.11
20 East_German 16.04
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.8% Lithuanian + 13.2% Sardinian @ 2.33
2 76.4% Ukrainian + 23.6% Lithuanian @ 2.53
3 93.6% Estonian_Polish + 6.4% Sardinian @ 2.58
4 60.1% Ukrainian + 39.9% Estonian_Polish @ 2.64
5 93.7% Russian_Smolensk + 6.3% Sardinian @ 2.9
6 63.5% Ukrainian + 36.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.95
7 70.8% Ukrainian + 29.2% Belorussian @ 2.97
8 56% Lithuanian + 44% Croatian @ 3.01
9 82.8% Ukrainian + 17.2% Estonian @ 3.12
10 75.8% Estonian_Polish + 24.2% Croatian @ 3.14
11 62.2% Lithuanian + 37.8% Moldavian @ 3.18
12 57% Estonian_Polish + 43% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.21
13 80.7% Estonian_Polish + 19.3% Moldavian @ 3.25
14 70.5% Ukrainian + 29.5% Southwest_Russian @ 3.3
15 81.4% Lithuanian + 18.6% North_Italian @ 3.31
16 91.8% Estonian_Polish + 8.2% North_Italian @ 3.33
17 65.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 34.3% Lithuanian @ 3.33
18 75.8% Lithuanian + 24.2% Bulgarian @ 3.34
19 82.5% Lithuanian + 17.5% Tuscan @ 3.36
20 88.4% Ukrainian + 11.6% Erzya @ 3.36
MDLP K23b
# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 49.74
2 Caucasian 29.57
3 European_Early_Farmers 12.56
4 Ancestral_Altaic 3.86
5 Arctic 1.29
6 Amerindian 1.05
7 South_Indian 0.67
8 Melano_Polynesian 0.33
9 South_Central_Asian 0.33
10 African_Pygmy 0.26
11 Austronesian 0.18
12 Near_East 0.15
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_West ( ) 3.78
2 Slovak ( ) 4.73
3 Kashub ( ) 5.13
4 Sorb ( ) 5.17
5 Ukrainian_Center ( ) 5.44
6 Czech ( ) 5.65
7 Ukrainian_East ( ) 6.02
8 Belarusian-East ( ) 6.11
9 Belarusian_West ( ) 6.17
10 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 6.66
11 Russian_South ( ) 6.98
12 Ukrainian ( ) 7.3
13 Hungarian ( ) 7.44
14 Slovenian ( ) 7.47
15 Russian-West ( ) 7.51
16 Don_cossack ( ) 7.7
17 Pole ( ) 8.07
18 Croat_BH ( ) 8.07
19 Bosnian ( ) 8.17
20 Russian_North ( ) 8.22
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54% Russian-West ( ) + 46% Croat ( ) @ 3
2 64.9% Belarusian-East ( ) + 35.1% Serb_Serbia ( ) @ 3.05
3 54.9% Russian-West ( ) + 45.1% Serb_BH ( ) @ 3.1
4 58.8% Russian-West ( ) + 41.2% Serb_Serbia ( ) @ 3.1
5 55.6% Croat ( ) + 44.4% Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) @ 3.11
6 56.2% Croat ( ) + 43.8% Balt ( ) @ 3.18
7 51.4% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 48.6% Balt ( ) @ 3.2
8 54.8% Serb_BH ( ) + 45.2% Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) @ 3.21
9 86.5% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 13.5% Italian_Bergamo ( ) @ 3.21
10 82.6% Belarusian-East ( ) + 17.4% Italian_Piedmont ( ) @ 3.22
11 50.3% Russian-North-West ( ) + 49.7% Croat ( ) @ 3.22
12 93.5% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 6.5% Sardinian ( ) @ 3.22
13 52.5% Russian-West ( ) + 47.5% Bosnian ( ) @ 3.23
14 57.3% Bosnian ( ) + 42.7% Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) @ 3.24
15 62% Russian-West ( ) + 38% Montenegrian ( ) @ 3.25
16 61.9% Croat ( ) + 38.1% Estonian ( ) @ 3.25
17 55.4% Serb_BH ( ) + 44.6% Balt ( ) @ 3.26
18 74.8% Russian-West ( ) + 25.2% Kosovar ( ) @ 3.27
19 57.6% Croat_BH ( ) + 42.4% Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) @ 3.28
20 55.7% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 44.3% Latvian ( ) @ 3.28
This a early Galicia Volhynian person a predecessor of probably Poles, Ukrainians, Moldovans, Hungarians to some extent etc and very unmixed, before arrival all sorts Jews. That why is convenient call him Rus because some Russian population eventually mixed with these people down the road. He still scores a chunk of non Slavic ancestry tho
Your closest Ancient populations:
Baltic + Kievan Rus (7.248)
Kievan Rus (7.61)
Avar + Kievan Rus (8.207)
Avar (11.62)
Baltic (16.73)
Has anyone gotten a closer match to Kievan Rus? I think mines the highest ive seen.
Anyone closer to Scythian Ukraine than 11.41?
Anyone closer to Scythian Ukraine than 11.41?
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I'm closest to Western Scythian Black Sea - distance 11.92