Was Haplogroup R originally mongoloid?

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Originally Posted by Messier 67

No I was referencing wikipedia:

The highest percentages of P are found in Eastern Russia

35.4% among Tuvan males;
35% among Nivkh and;
28.3% among Altai-Kizhi.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplog...n_distribution

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Omg you were referencing wikipedia. Well you are wrong, there is no P in Siberia. Those Tuvans are likely Q or something.

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Originally Posted by Harkonnen

There is no P in Siberia. It is only found in South East Asia. If your info is based on some older studies, it is actually just some undefined Q.

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N is originally mongoloid. Look today's N people.

Pure asians and Mongoloids. You cant deny it.

Just Finns different from all others.

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Originally Posted by Sundqvist

on EgyptSearch forum there was something that R1b V88 is the oldest of R1b and came from Africa indeed

http://i40.tinypic.com/14tu5xt.jpg

more here ---> http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ul...c;f=8;t=009271

and eventually:
http://egyptsearchreloaded.proboards...ion-theory-r1b

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That pic actually shows a equal split between V88 and P297. Neither is descendent from the other. For some reason folk have very hard time understanding this concept. I notice this same phenom when discussing haplogroup N matters.

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

N is originally mongoloid. Look today's N people.

Pure asians and Mongoloids. You cant deny it.

Just Finns different from all others.

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East Asians don't have any autosomal ancestry from their N ancestors, they have just the y-dna.

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Originally Posted by DarknessWin

Aryan tribes = indian tribes

Stop compare aryan to white skin, this is Hitler's bullshit

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You can't call R "Indo-European" because Indo-Europeans came from R, you can't call it "Proto-Indo-European", because again, the Proto-Indo-European came from R. R predated even the Proto-Indo-European. What it is... is aryan. That is the only ethnic label I can think of. And genetics have proven about half of Indians, the Indo-Aryans are R. So the R tribe is aryan. And aryan means the exact opposite of whiteness, it is mongoloid ancestry.

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Originally Posted by Harkonnen

East Asians don't have any autosomal ancestry from their N ancestors, they have just the y-dna.

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Not east asians. See your Sami partners today, and Karelians.

They are massivly Mongoloids.

They are a proof of N mongoloid roots. You look more European becouse of I from Vikings. All Europe know that N is asian marker. Just you are trying to proove a different.

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

Not east asians. See your Sami partners today, and Karelians.

They are massivly Mongoloids.

They are a proof of N mongoloid roots. You look more European becouse of I from Vikings. All Europe know that N is asian marker. Just you are trying to proove a different.

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Dude I'm a Karelian and I look spot on like the Oase man, my ancient ancestor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wIXCiYCiiw

When I was traveling Europe I was twice the size of the natives and felt like those giant goblins from game of thrones.

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Originally Posted by Harkonnen

Dude I'm a Karelian and I look spot on like the Oase man, my ancient ancestor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wIXCiYCiiw

When I was traveling Europe I was twice the size of the natives and felt like those giant goblins from game of thrones.

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Actually, that is characteristic for I1 people. That mean you have autosomal contact with I1 proto-Nordics.

Also some Russians was of I1 descent.

Like Lav Nikolayevich Tolstoy.

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Originally Posted by Harkonnen

Dude I'm a Karelian and I look spot on like the Oase man, my ancient ancestor

[vieo=youtube;5wIXCiYCiiw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wIXCiYCiiw[/video]

When I was traveling Europe I was twice the size of the natives and felt like those giant goblins from game of thrones.

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Oase actually looked like this:
http://donsmaps.com/images12/oaseskull.jpg

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Originally Posted by Harkonnen

Dude I'm a Karelian and I look spot on like the Oase man, my ancient ancestor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wIXCiYCiiw

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You should invest in some skin................. :D