SNP's and Haplogroups

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Originally Posted by Ulf

A little later, around 4,500 years ago, Haplogroup N3 began moving across from west of the Ural mountains. Haplogroup N3 follows closely the spread of the Finno-Ugric languages.

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I thought N3 was older in the European context than that?

Also, the article doesn't mention R1a and the Indo-European connection...

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Originally Posted by hereward

R1b1b2a1a2 (P312)

This Subclade has been viewed to account for one half of all European R1b1b2, it is found all over Europe but is mainly concentrated in Western Europe.
P312 Subclades

R1b1b2a1a2b – Defined by M153, this Subclade is found in high numbers amongst the Basques and Gascons, with a lower amount throughout Iberia.

R1b1b2a1a2c – Defined by M167, this subclade is found in relatively high numbers in both the Basques and Catalans. In the rest of Spain, plus France, Netherlands, Germany and England, it is found at below 5%.

R1b1b2a1a2d – Defined by U152/S28, this subclade reaches its peak in the alpine area’s, which has led some to associate the subclade with the ‘La Tene Culture’. Out side of Switzerland, Southern Germany and Northern Italy it drops in number dramatically in all directions.

R1b1b2a1a2e – Defined by L21. Current tests results indicate this subclade being fairly common in Ireland, Britain, Northern France, Germany and Scandinavia, but rare in Iberia and Italy.

R1b1b2a1a2f2 – Defined by M222, this subclade is heavily associated with Ireland and Scotland, especially northern Ireland. It is also quite abundant in Western Ireland.

R1b1b2a1a2f4 – Defined by L226/S168, it is found throughout Ireland, especially Western and Central Ireland.

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Oh yeah!

If someone have information about the mtDNA H7a let me know!

Haplogroup Q :

http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-Q.gif

After reading this topic i got confused with R1b-S116. What is the difference between R1b1b2a1a2 and R1b1b2a1a2*? Are they both considered S116? I also noticed it's sometimes written as S116*...

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Originally Posted by AlexDelarge

After reading this topic i got confused with R1b-S116. What is the difference between R1b1b2a1a2 and R1b1b2a1a2*? Are they both considered S116? I also noticed it's sometimes written as S116*...

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http://www.eupedia.com/europe/europe...logroups.shtml


http://www.buildinghistory.org/dista...ngeurope.shtml

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Originally Posted by hamettan

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/europe...logroups.shtml


http://www.buildinghistory.org/dista...ngeurope.shtml

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Those two links don't really answer my question but thanks for replying.
I'm asking because i'm R1b1b2a1a2 without the * :)

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Originally Posted by AlexDelarge

Those two links don't really answer my question but thanks for replying.
I'm asking because i'm R1b1b2a1a2 without the * :)

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Pardon. I believe you will discover that the information is there, but not so easy to grasp.

The * denotes and as yet undefinable subclade, whereas the other might be defined into one of the current Gallo-Italo-alpine subclades. So it must be either U152, M126, M162, S139 or S144 with further testing.

I hope this makes better sense.

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Originally Posted by hamettan

Pardon. I believe you will discover that the information is there, but not so easy to grasp.

The * denotes and as yet undefinable subclade, whereas the other might be defined into one of the current Gallo-Italo-alpine subclades. So it must be either U152, M126, M162, S139 or S144 with further testing.

I hope this makes better sense.

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It does. I never got what the * meant before. As for further testing, i think 23andme would have picked any subclade so maybe my haplogroup is just that one.

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Originally Posted by AlexDelarge

It does. I never got what the * meant before. As for further testing, i think 23andme would have picked any subclade so maybe my haplogroup is just that one.

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Perhaps, as was mine in another.

Y-DNA Q frequency in Europe:
http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-Q.gif