Celto- Germanic Heritage! British blood at its best!

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Originally Posted by Graham

Briton refers to the pre- Germanic invasions. Tribes that spoke something like Welsh.


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But they do have more Germanic influence due to anglo-saxons which came from southern jutland? Correct me if i'm wrong.

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Originally Posted by Nordicist

Most native English people are more related to Basque people in northern Iberia than Nordic-looking Germanics. Funny you English with your Germanic delusions.

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Hence Celto- Germanic, rather than Germanic or Germano- Celts. Who says that the people of the British Isles are unmixed Germanics??

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Originally Posted by MacDonald

Hence Celto- Germanic, rather than Germanic or Germano- Celts. Who says that the people of the British Isles are unmixed Germanics??

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People often confuse language and ethnicity. English people speak a Germanic language hence they must be Germanic. Same for the French, they speak a Romance language so they must be Latins. Well (partially) wrong and wrong. Modern English people are a mix of the old Celts that inhabitated the British Isles and of the Germanics invadors just like modern French people are a mix of the old Gauls (aka Celts) that inhabitated the Gauls and of the various Germanic tribes that later invaded them too.

If you look purely at a linguistic perspective then English is the most celtic and latin influenced Germanic language while French is the most germanic and celtic influenced Romance language. Interestingly the name "Great Britain" derives from the Latin word "Britannia" while the name "France" derives from the Germanic word "Frank"

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Originally Posted by Cody Gearhart

As far as i know British are just Germans really. Maybe some Scandinavian input but that's about it. Irish are Descended from Spanish or Basques. Although a lot of Irish also have Scandinavian mixture.

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Take a look at these genetic plots and tell me what you see?

http://s28.postimg.org/uznbxb8il/pca12.png

http://s28.postimg.org/o09qhbpi5/Hin...7pca12_K15.png

http://s28.postimg.org/f37usgm7h/pca12.png

http://blog.23andme.com/wp-content/u...logpostfig.jpg

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Originally Posted by MacDonald

That's very true! I'm also of the opinion that people from the Benelux countries are also Celto- Germanic? I think the Gaulish input might have radiated beyond the borders of modern France. Absolutely, I'm sure that continental Celts survived as a genetic component of the German people every bit as much as the insular Celtic component survived in the British.

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Northern Dutch are rather Pred Germanic.

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Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley

Take a look at these genetic plots and tell me what you see?

http://s28.postimg.org/uznbxb8il/pca12.png

http://s28.postimg.org/o09qhbpi5/Hin...7pca12_K15.png

http://s28.postimg.org/f37usgm7h/pca12.png

http://blog.23andme.com/wp-content/u...logpostfig.jpg

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I thought Dutch had Frankish blood? And if so how do they still cluster close like that still?

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Originally Posted by Valmont

People often confuse language and ethnicity. English people speak a Germanic language hence they must be Germanic. Same for the French, they speak a Romance languages so they must be Latins. Well (partially) wrong and wrong. Modern English people are a mix of the old Celts that inhabitated the British Isles and of the Germanics invadors just like modern French people are a mix of the old Gauls (aka Celts) that inhabitated the Gauls and of the various Germanic tribes that later invaded them too.

If you look purely at a linguistic perspective then English is the most celtic and latin influenced Germanic language while French is the most germanic and celtic influenced Romance language. Interestingly the name "Great Britain" derives from the Latin word "Britannia" while the name "France" derives from the Germanic word "Frank"

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This is what i was talking about with the Germanic invaders. Odd that they still cluster close with Grace O' Malley's reply to me. It's Very interesting.

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Originally Posted by Cody Gearhart

I thought Dutch had Frankish blood? And if so how do they still cluster close like that still?

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Originally Posted by Graham

The difference between Scots, Irish, English, Germans, Danes, Dutch, Norwegians, Swedish, Belgians etc.. In North West Europe is small genetically.

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If you look at genetic plots all those populations cluster together closely. If the Irish are Basque descended then why are English, South Dutch and West Germans closer to Basque than the Irish? Well not necessarily Basque but Spanish populations as the Basque are off on their own. I've added Graham's quote because it is correct.

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Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley

If you look at genetic plots all those populations cluster together closely. If the Irish are Basque descended then why are English, South Dutch and West Germans closer to Basque than the Irish? I've added Graham's quote because it is correct.

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Then what are the Irish closest to?

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Originally Posted by Cody Gearhart

Then what are the Irish closest to?

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Can you read the plots? The closest populations to the Irish are West Scots and Orcadians but they are very close to all the North West European populations. They aren't anymore descended from Basques than the Dutch for example.