What is the most controversial haplogroup?

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Originally Posted by Linebacker

And thats what I was talking about in the post you quoted me on



I was talking about the ones that did the job,it was the E1b dudes.

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E1b were farming too, specially Natufians (highly E1b) in the later periods, but it's not them who expanded in Europe during the neolithic, at least not the first and main wave of the neolithic. The G's and the local HG's who they mixed with, were partly replaced by steppe invaders, although R1b for example was already there in Ice Age Europe (Villabruna) and R1a in the mesolithic (Karelia). ANE admixture was present in the mesolithic at various levels, so we had to find some R's, even very basal R.

For topic question: J2b

N1a P189.2 among Europeans and Serbian clan Piva.

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Originally Posted by Europa Nazione

N1a P189.2 among Europeans and Serbian clan Piva.

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And Banjani clan also.

All J Y-DNA probably. Italians like to say it's neolithic but so far no Neolithic samples had any of the J subclades.

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Originally Posted by Petalpusher

Bronze age, the steppe, Rethel, you know? What came last, lasts.

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Someone was calling me? :ranger:

Most controversial... hmmm?

Top 10:

1. R1 - because everyone want to have it.
2. J - becasue it is J like Jew.
3. N - becasue these are Finchurians patologically being ashamed of their own grandpas...
4. H - like gHypsy
5. T - noone knows what it is...
6. E - because noone want to be a Ham...
7. I - becasue they have OWD
8. Q - Redskins are fine, but what on earth they are doing here?
9. G - like great, it means: we were advanced once... once upon a time...
10. rest of alfabet, no one cares...

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Originally Posted by Rethel

Most controvertial... hmmm?

Top 10:

1. R1 - because everyone want to have it.
2. J - becasue it is J like Jew.
3. N - becasue these are Finchurians patologically being ashamed of their own grandpas...
4. H - like gHypsy
5. T - noone knows what it is...
6. E - because noone want to be a Ham...
7. I - becasue they have OWD
8. Q - Redskins are fine, but what on earth they are doing here?
9. G - like great, it means: we were advanced once... once upon a time...
10. rest of alfabet, no one cares...

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Originally Posted by Dema

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No, not that one.

It was Kasluch, son of Micraim.