Becasue they were mongolized in early stages.Quote:
Originally Posted by ButlerKing
Btw, Tibetians looks totally different than rest
of mongoloids, like Ainu did also. Original D is
among negritos on Andaman Islands.
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Becasue they were mongolized in early stages.Quote:
Originally Posted by ButlerKing
Btw, Tibetians looks totally different than rest
of mongoloids, like Ainu did also. Original D is
among negritos on Andaman Islands.
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Originally Posted by Rethel
That's insane. The D that the Tibetans and Burmese mongoloid have are totally different origin with the D of Ainu, Adaman islanders. The C that Mongoloids also have different from from the Australoids.
Please do not listen to afrocentrist propaganda or delusional idiots like Geniker who I had proven him wrong so many times.
The Tibetan look like what they look like, Mongoloid
http://cache.boston.com/universal/si...7_17859823.jpg
Asian C is in majority very young.Quote:
Originally Posted by ButlerKing
16 mln people descendant from on guy 1000 years ago.
16 mln it is more than all C in Europe, Russia, Cenrtal Asia and Mongolia together.
Btw, mongolian C and D is not closer related to N and O, than to rest of C and D.
C in India and Bengal is not mongoloidic also, and D, O and C in Indochina is a mix
of mongoloids and australoids, as whole population is. Mongoloid element obviously
came from O people there, and australoid from some different people - C and D are
very good minority candidates.
I don't. But you often to similar idiots are listening.Quote:
Please do not listen to afrocentrist propaganda or diluted idiots like Geniker who I had proven him wrong so many times.
Looks mongoloid, but it is subrace.Quote:
The Tibetan look like what they look like, Mongoloid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rethel
Okay, time for some schooling.
Adamanese 100% D and 100% mtDNA M
If haplogroup D is negroid origin than mtDNA M is also negroid origin ????? REALLY ??? that's saying a large percentage of people in Asia have original negroid markers ? hahahahaha
http://assets.survivalinternational....a30_screen.jpg
Haplogroup D is only in Japanese, Ainu, Tibetan, Burmese but mtDNA M is 25-30% in Chinese, Korean, Mongolian, Japanese, Southeast Asian and 60-80% in India, Pakistan
Judging from your logic all of East Asian and Southeast Asia are mixed with Australoid even Koreans because mtDNA N and M which are descendants from African mtDNA L makes up for 25% of Chinese, Mongolian, Tibetan, Japanese, Koreans, Southeast Asian lineages.
DO YOU REALLY BOTH OF THESE MARKERS ARE NEGROID ORIGIN ???????
Haplogroup D1, D2, D3 are not Negrito markers, Adamanese have their own version of Haplogroup D* which is found and isolated only in the Adamans islands.
Haplogroup D-M174 = Haplogroup D Adamanese ( Paragroup D*)
Haplogroup D-M15 = Haplogroup D1 Tibetan, Tibeto-Burmese, Han Chinese
Haplogroup D-M55 = Haplogroup D2 Jomon, Ainu, Japanese, Ryukuan
Haplogroup D-P47 = Haplogroup D3a Tibeto-burmese, Tajiks, Tibetan, Turkic.
Buttlerking,
you really do not have idea about the past.
It is hard to discuss with you, when you can't
imagine, what and when you are talking about.
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Originally Posted by Rethel
I'm contradicting your points.
You want to say haplogroup D is negritid, WHY ? Do you have evidence that D was originally negroid. You only say this because the Adamanese are some humans existed 26,000 years ago with their migration from Africa to Asia. How would you know D was originally negroid, do you agree that E was originally negroid aswell?
Y-DNA haplogroup D is not the only haplogroup that these Adamanese have it in 100%, their mtDNA M haplogroup is also 100%
So if their haplogroup D originally negroid than so is their mtDNA M
Are you ready to claim mtDNA M is also negroid origin?
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Originally Posted by Rethel
From the book "The Secret History of the Mongols".
http://i68.tinypic.com/23jkahu.jpg
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27627454Quote:
Members of the Mongol imperial family (designated the Golden family) are buried in a secret necropolis; therefore, none of their burial grounds have been found. In 2004, we first discovered 5 graves belonging to the Golden family in Tavan Tolgoi, Eastern Mongolia. To define the genealogy of the 5 bodies and the kinship among them, SNP and/or STR profiles of mitochondria, autosomes, and Y chromosomes were analyzed. Four of the 5 bodies were determined to carry the mitochondrial DNA haplogroup D4, while the fifth carried haplogroup CZ, indicating that this individual had no kinship with the others. Meanwhile, Y-SNP and Y-STR profiles indicate that the males examined belonged to the R1b-M343 haplogroup. Thus, their East Asian D4 or CZ matrilineal and West Eurasian R1b-M343 patrilineal origins reveal genealogical admixture between Caucasoid and Mongoloid ethnic groups, despite a Mongoloid physical appearance. In addition, Y chromosomal and autosomal STR profiles revealed that the four D4-carrying bodies bore the relationship of either mother and three sons or four full siblings with almost the same probability. Moreover, the geographical distribution of R1b-M343-carrying modern-day individuals demonstrates that descendants of Tavan Tolgoi bodies today live mainly in Western Eurasia, with a high frequency in the territories of the past Mongol khanates. Here, we propose that Genghis Khan and his family carried Y-haplogroup R1b-M343, which is prevalent in West Eurasia, rather than the Y-haplogroup C3c-M48, which is prevalent in Asia and which is widely accepted to be present in the family members of Genghis Khan. Additionally, Tavan Tolgoi bodies may have been the product of marriages between the lineage of Genghis Khan's Borjigin clan and the lineage of either the Ongud or Hongirad clans, indicating that these individuals were members of Genghis Khan's immediate family or his close relatives.
Seems your paternal ancestors where some East Asians who joined Turkic/Hunnic hordes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles Bronson
You should study more on their mtDNA and than see if you still truly believe in what you think. Do not think you can just talk about their Y-DNA without including their mtDNA , these Adamanese people also exist because of their mtDNA migration not just their Y-DNA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rethel
mtDNA M is the most common haplogroup in East Asia, Southeast Asia, India, Pakistan and yet these negroids Adamanese have it at 100%.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_M_(mtDNA)
" Due to its great age, haplogroup M is an mtDNA lineage which does not correspond well to present-day ethnic groups. It is found among Siberian, Native American, East Asian, Southeast Asian, Central Asian, South Asian, Melanesian, European, Northeast African, and various Middle Eastern populations at varying frequencies. "
No, you are not.Quote:
Originally Posted by ButlerKing
Often you also too often change your mind depending what you
actually find on interent, so the more you write, the more I dont
consider it as worthy. No offense, but it looks like that, and even
do not read - as many. Try to be more briefly, coherent and concret.
1. Becasue basal is among negrites.Quote:
You want to say haplogroup D is negritid, WHY ?
2. Becasue it is only (only relevant) hg among negrites.
3. Because it is related to C who is also dark, and rest african hgs.
As above.Quote:
Do you have evidence that D was originally negroid.
:picard1:Quote:
You only say this because the Adamanese are some humans existed 26,000 years ago with their migration from Africa to Asia.
E was originaly dark, as dark are Natufians, Egyptians and Berbers, and as majority of related to it hgs are.Quote:
How would you know D was originally negroid, do you agree that E was originally negroid aswell?
The level of darkness is irrelevant, becasue every tribe was developing separatly and differently.
But they have main D subclade, and it is huge majority.Quote:
Y-DNA haplogroup D is not the only haplogroup that these Adamanese have
They have also some P which have also negritios from Philippines.
Did I say something about M?Quote:
it in 100%, their mtDNA M haplogroup is also 100%
So if their haplogroup D originally negroid than so is their mtDNA M
I don;t care about it.
Why should I be, if I didn;t say anything about it?Quote:
Are you ready to claim mtDNA M is also negroid origin?
mt hgs often do not have one particular origin, because women did not make tribes.