Haplogroups in Italy

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Originally Posted by Ethel

Yes, no doubt Z56 is italic
I think both L2 and Z36 can be associated with gauls.
Why do you think Z36 is germanic? I think it correlates perfectly with the gaulish settlement in Northern Italy, maybe you've got this impression because there's a hotspot near the black forest?

Look at this passage, by Eupedia:
"This is probably the migration that brought the Italic-speaking tribes to Italy, who would have belonged mainly the Z56 clade of R1b-U152. During the Iron Age, the expansion of the La Tène culture from Switzerland is associated with the diffusion of the Z36 branch, which would generate the Belgae around modern Belgium and in the Rhineland, the Gauls in France, and the Cisalpine Celts in Italy."

I guess if Z36 were germanic it would be higher in Triveneto region rather than Piedmont and Lombardy :icon_ask:

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I said germanic just to differentiate with the L2 that seems to be very gaulish like, almost all clades are in France, Central Europe, Belgium, etc.

But now i am realizing, a lot of germanic-like last names with L2:

Kevin Costner
Matthew Perry
Grover Cleveland
Abraham Lincoln

Even the Habsburgs are L2 too, curious, seems to be that this L2 is that large that has gaulish clades but also saxon and germanic.

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Originally Posted by Rocinante

I said germanic just to differentiate with the L2 that seems to be very gaulish like, almost all clades are in France, Central Europe, Belgium, etc.

But now i am realizing, a lot of germanic-like last names with L2:

Kevin Costner
Matthew Perry
Grover Cleveland
Abraham Lincoln

Even the Habsburgs are L2 too, curious, seems to be that this L2 is that large that has gaulish clades but also saxon and germanic.

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L2 might be just a general central euro clade.
Now for Z36, I think it's safe to say that it's just alpine celtic/cisalpine gaulish