Bulgarian Gedmatch from Western Thrace

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Originally Posted by Kaspias

Thank you. Not sure but i think with these med scores we can assume s/he has Greek admixture. 20-22 East med and 17-18 west med is typical for Bulgarians but 25-20... Eh i'm not sure.

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He is my y-dna match on YFULL: https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Y16729/

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Originally Posted by Kaspias

Thank you. Not sure but i think with these med scores we can assume s/he has Greek admixture. 20-22 East med and 17-18 west med is typical for Bulgarians but 25-20... Eh i'm not sure.

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On the sea coast of Strandzha, like Tsarevo and Ahtopol, there is high possibility of Greek ancestry. In the inland there weren't many Greeks, today there are very few people left in this region.

Most places on the southern Black sea coast are home to many refugees from Western and Eastern Thrace, however many migrated to Burgas, which is the closest big town. Today half of the population of Tsarevo is gypsies, not sure for the other towns like Primorsko and Ahtopol.

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Originally Posted by *****

This is a Bulgarian from Strandza in Thrace:

Eurogenes K13:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.8
2 Baltic 21.19
3 West_Med 20.72
4 North_Atlantic 16.58
5 West_Asian 12.14
6 South_Asian 1.54
7 Red_Sea 1.49
8 Siberian 0.53

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 5.42
2 Bulgarian 7.71
3 Romanian 10.55
4 Central_Greek 11.06
5 East_Sicilian 12.42
6 Italian_Abruzzo 12.95
7 Ashkenazi 13.46
8 West_Sicilian 13.64
9 Tuscan 14.43
10 Serbian 14.7
11 South_Italian 15.25
12 North_Italian 17.62
13 Moldavian 19.29
14 Algerian_Jewish 20.02
15 Italian_Jewish 20.45
16 Sephardic_Jewish 20.92
17 Croatian 22.37
18 Hungarian 22.84
19 Tunisian_Jewish 24.06
20 Libyan_Jewish 24.43

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79% Bulgarian + 21% Cyprian @ 4.14
2 91.7% Greek_Thessaly + 8.3% Erzya @ 4.35
3 75.7% Bulgarian + 24.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.5
4 91.3% Greek_Thessaly + 8.7% Southwest_Russian @ 4.51
5 91.4% Greek_Thessaly + 8.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.52
6 83.7% Bulgarian + 16.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.54
7 83.2% Bulgarian + 16.8% Samaritan @ 4.55
8 68.1% Greek_Thessaly + 31.9% Bulgarian @ 4.58
9 92.5% Greek_Thessaly + 7.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.59
10 67.1% Bulgarian + 32.9% Ashkenazi @ 4.6
11 93.2% Greek_Thessaly + 6.8% Lithuanian @ 4.61
12 92.4% Greek_Thessaly + 7.6% Estonian_Polish @ 4.63
13 92.5% Greek_Thessaly + 7.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.67
14 91.4% Greek_Thessaly + 8.6% Ukrainian @ 4.68
15 92.8% Greek_Thessaly + 7.2% Belorussian @ 4.68
16 93.5% Greek_Thessaly + 6.5% Chuvash @ 4.71
17 87.8% Greek_Thessaly + 12.2% Moldavian @ 4.77
18 91.7% Greek_Thessaly + 8.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.78
19 94.5% Greek_Thessaly + 5.5% Mari @ 4.81
20 93% Greek_Thessaly + 7% Polish @ 4.83


Eurogenes K15:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.8
2 Baltic 21.19
3 West_Med 20.72
4 North_Atlantic 16.58
5 West_Asian 12.14
6 South_Asian 1.54
7 Red_Sea 1.49
8 Siberian 0.53

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 5.42
2 Bulgarian 7.71
3 Romanian 10.55
4 Central_Greek 11.06
5 East_Sicilian 12.42
6 Italian_Abruzzo 12.95
7 Ashkenazi 13.46
8 West_Sicilian 13.64
9 Tuscan 14.43
10 Serbian 14.7
11 South_Italian 15.25
12 North_Italian 17.62
13 Moldavian 19.29
14 Algerian_Jewish 20.02
15 Italian_Jewish 20.45
16 Sephardic_Jewish 20.92
17 Croatian 22.37
18 Hungarian 22.84
19 Tunisian_Jewish 24.06
20 Libyan_Jewish 24.43

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79% Bulgarian + 21% Cyprian @ 4.14
2 91.7% Greek_Thessaly + 8.3% Erzya @ 4.35
3 75.7% Bulgarian + 24.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.5
4 91.3% Greek_Thessaly + 8.7% Southwest_Russian @ 4.51
5 91.4% Greek_Thessaly + 8.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.52
6 83.7% Bulgarian + 16.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.54
7 83.2% Bulgarian + 16.8% Samaritan @ 4.55
8 68.1% Greek_Thessaly + 31.9% Bulgarian @ 4.58
9 92.5% Greek_Thessaly + 7.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.59
10 67.1% Bulgarian + 32.9% Ashkenazi @ 4.6
11 93.2% Greek_Thessaly + 6.8% Lithuanian @ 4.61
12 92.4% Greek_Thessaly + 7.6% Estonian_Polish @ 4.63
13 92.5% Greek_Thessaly + 7.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.67
14 91.4% Greek_Thessaly + 8.6% Ukrainian @ 4.68
15 92.8% Greek_Thessaly + 7.2% Belorussian @ 4.68
16 93.5% Greek_Thessaly + 6.5% Chuvash @ 4.71
17 87.8% Greek_Thessaly + 12.2% Moldavian @ 4.77
18 91.7% Greek_Thessaly + 8.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.78
19 94.5% Greek_Thessaly + 5.5% Mari @ 4.81
20 93% Greek_Thessaly + 7% Polish @ 4.83

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Looks like strong Greek mixture on the Thracian coast.

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Originally Posted by Coolguy1

Looks like strong Greek mixture on the Thracian coast.

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Exactly. While most Greeks left for Greece during the population exchange after WW1, some stayed and assimilated. There are two famous musician from Pomorie who are of partial Greek ancestry

http://programata.bg/img/gallery/gallery_27623.jpg

His paternal ancestry is from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brashlyan

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Originally Posted by Coolguy1

Looks like strong Greek mixture on the Thracian coast.

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Is he more southern-shifted than a Thracian Greek or do Thracian Greeks score similar to him?

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Originally Posted by Lioncourt

On the sea coast of Strandzha, like Tsarevo and Ahtopol, there is high possibility of Greek ancestry. In the inland there weren't many Greeks, today there are very few people left in this region.

Most places on the southern Black sea coast are home to many refugees from Western and Eastern Thrace, however many migrated to Burgas, which is the closest big town. Today half of the population of Tsarevo is gypsies, not sure for the other towns like Primorsko and Ahtopol.

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Do you think he's descended from Aegean Bulgarians or the region he's from just has a lot of Ancient Greek DNA?

One day, and please dont take this personally, Bulgarian, Turkish, Italian and other non native languages will be banned in the balkans.

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Originally Posted by Mingle

Do you think he's descended from Aegean Bulgarians or the region he's from just has a lot of Ancient Greek DNA?

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***** posted that his father is from an old Bulgarian village in Strandzha, most people from there migrated to different parts of Bulgaria. As for the coast of Strandzha - it used to be inhabited mostly by Greeks until 100 years ago. 90% of Bulgarians living on the southern coast are from elsewhere. Strandzha as a whole - not more Greek than the rest of Bulgaria.

Ancient mycenaean result: West_Med 31.52
2 East_Med 29.71
3 West_Asian 17.19
4 Atlantic 12.83
5 North_Sea 7.50
6 Red_Sea 1.26