Elite Colonial Brazilian DNA results

Most white Brazilians from the traditional elite are not racist, but classicist, they would have no problem mating with rich Japanese, mulatos(as), castizo(as)...
Real purity here is reduced to poor colonos from the countryside.
It's like when people on the Internet say that white Latinos, because of their minority status, are more racialist regarding relationships when compared their American counterparts... seriously, I don't buy it, race mixing between whites and non-whites is more common here, and I'm talking about current times, not colonial ones.

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Originally Posted by Cernunnos

She is 95 years old, she is probably a great grandmother by now, probably her grandsons and great grandsons are already mixed. Unless she kept her "elite" status and wanted to mantain the blood intact.

I wonder if some of these "elite" families are not a bit inbred, assuming that the vast majority of Portuguese colonials mixed with africans and natives, in order to mantain and keep the European blood pure or relatively pure they would have to select just a few families who they could breed with.

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I have the results of her grandson and of her great-grandaughter.

Grandson:

https://i.postimg.cc/rwzhRHQT/marco-results.jpg

He's almost fully European as well. He is the son of her son, his mother was an Italian immigrant.

His daughter:

https://i.postimg.cc/gcNqyDw2/bisneta-results.jpg

She has more admixture, but not by a lot. Her mother is from Bahia that's why the girl has a bit more admixture, but the mother is a white baiana - 85% Portuguese, 7% Amerindian and 7% SSA (and she looks very white, tall and with blue eyes).

A big portion of the white upper middle class in Brazil is highly endogamous from a phenotypical point of view. That's why even if some have small admixture most individuals tested consistently score above 85% European.

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Originally Posted by Adamastor

I have the results of her grandson and of her great-grandaughter.

Grandson:

https://i.postimg.cc/rwzhRHQT/marco-results.jpg

He's almost fully European as well. He is the son of her son, his mother was an Italian immigrant.

His daughter:

https://i.postimg.cc/gcNqyDw2/bisneta-results.jpg

She has more admixture, but not by a lot. Her mother is from Bahia that's why the girl has a bit more admixture, but the mother is a white baiana - 85% Portuguese, 7% Amerindian and 7% SSA (and she looks very white, tall and with blue eyes).

A big portion of the white upper middle class in Brazil is highly endogamous from a phenotypical point of view. That's why even if some have small admixture most individuals tested consistently score above 85% European.

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white baiana?

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Originally Posted by bandeirante

white baiana?

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Yes. What's the problem? Bahia is not 99% black, you know...

You're very dumb and uninformed, lisarb...

I wouldn't say Brazil is the only latin american country where 80% european colonials exist some countries are just more prevelent then others even in Mexico for example my whole family are from the North east and most of them are 80% or more and 0% recent european ancestry.

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Originally Posted by Kiete

I wouldn't say Brazil is the only latin american country where 80% european colonials exist some countries are just more prevelent then others even in Mexico for example my whole family are from the North east and most of them are 80% or more and 0% recent european ancestry.

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This person isn't just 80%+ European, she is 97-98% European, look at her GEDmatch results. Show me a single colonial result from Hispanic America that is similar, they simply don't exist. Her son is in the same range, the grandson is 98-99% Euro and only the grandaughter has a bit more of admixture, being 93% European... But only her and the son are fully colonial.

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Originally Posted by Adamastor

This person isn't just 80%+ European, she is 97-98% European, look at her GEDmatch results. Show me a single colonial result from Hispanic America that is similar, they simply don't exist. Her son is in the same range, the grandson is 98-99% Euro and only the grandaughter has a bit more of admixture, being 93% European... But only her and the son are fully colonial.

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Ahh misunderstood, But thats a really strong statement what makes you say that? I can PM and send you some gedmatch of some family members and friends all 100% from North east Mexico who are between 80-95% European Caucasoid.

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Originally Posted by Kiete

Ahh misunderstood, But thats a really strong statement what makes you say that? I can PM and send you some gedmatch of some family members and friends all 100% from North east Mexico who are between 80-95% European Caucasoid.

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I never saw a single Mexican result above 95% European, even among people of recent European ancestry there. I'd appreciate if you can PM me some. On the other hand, I can share many Brazilians above 95% European who are mostly colonial or even fully colonial, like this one.

Recently I posted a colonial Mexican that is heavily European, but he was 90% European at most.

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Originally Posted by Adamastor

I never saw a single Mexican result above 95% European, even among people of recent European ancestry there. I'd appreciate if you can PM me some. On the other hand, I can share many Brazilians above 95% European who are mostly colonial or even fully colonial, like this one.

Recently I posted a colonial Mexican that is heavily European, but he was 90% European at most.

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Why is that? Because Mexico had a smaller Euro imput in Colonial times compared to Brazil? Because they received less pos-colonial European immigration compared to Brazi? A mix of both?

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Originally Posted by Latinus

Why is that? Because Mexico had a smaller Euro imput in Colonial times compared to Brazil? Because they received less pos-colonial European immigration compared to Brazi? A mix of both?

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Both. Mexico received fewer Spaniards than Brazil received Portuguese in the colonial times and post-independence European immigration in Brazil was also much bigger than in Mexico.

Most historians estimate the number of Spaniards immigrated in all of the Hispanic America to have been around 300.000-400.000 from 16th century to the independence in the 19th century. Only in the 18th century Brazil received 800.000 Portuguese colonists. The colonial European input in Brazil is 5x or 6x bigger than in the rest of Latin America.