Serbian Autosomal DNA

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

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Look this Serb from Nikšić.

1 Baltic 31.29
2 North_Atlantic 25.72
3 West_Med 16.85
4 East_Med 15.81
5 West_Asian 7.84
6 Red_Sea 1.69
7 Siberian 0.67
8 Oceanian 0.12

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Originally Posted by Ljubic

Im always astonished how low the average south asian is even though Serbia has a sizeable gypsy community. It really seems that they dont mix that much with the native population and if someone has gypsy ancestry, they are aware of it.

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It's not that astonishing considering how 99% of them are like :P

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

Look this Serb from Nikšić.

1 Baltic 31.29
2 North_Atlantic 25.72
3 West_Med 16.85
4 East_Med 15.81
5 West_Asian 7.84
6 Red_Sea 1.69
7 Siberian 0.67
8 Oceanian 0.12

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where's that result from? that's not the same one Ford posted

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

where's that result from? that's not the same one Ford posted

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HungryLion gave me on one Serbian forum.

Nikšićain has 40.5% North_North European on K12b.

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Originally Posted by Ljubic

Im always astonished how low the average south asian is even though Serbia has a sizeable gypsy community. It really seems that they dont mix that much with the native population and if someone has gypsy ancestry, they are aware of it.

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i know of 3 Serb results with recent gipsy admixture, like 1/2 or 1/4 from Vojvodina and Central Serbia. i didn't include them.
recently mixing became common, specifically in those regions.

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

Member of this forum Ogi

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do you have his k13? i'll make separate Serbian and Montengrin averages.

nevermind, i found them
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...Dmatch-results

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

What is average Montenegrin Baltic? 25% or something?

National Montenegrins should not be counted in any Serbian statistics.
Member of this forum Ogi is declared Montenegrin with anti-Serbian attitudes like "nikad više 1918" and similar idiotic claims, and I don't give a fuck for his results.

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here, the South/East Montnegrin cluster(32 samples) and the rest of Serbs(88 samples)

https://i.imgur.com/IZnTSmi.png

_	MNE	min	max		Serb	min	max
North_Atlantic	24.42	18.21	29.92		25.11	20.59	32.83
Baltic	24.98	21.88	26.59		29.90	25.22	34.12
West_Med	18.82	15.34	22.59		16.94	12.09	20.45
West_Asian	10.28	5.13	14.05		8.69	2.29	12.67
East_Med	17.56	14.21	22.65		15.36	9.20	21.35
Red_Sea	1.87	0.00	5.46		1.61	0.00	3.96
South_Asian	0.31	0.00	2.59		0.41	0.00	2.91
East_Asian	0.22	0.00	1.87		0.37	0.00	1.79
Siberian	0.75	0.00	1.76		0.74	0.00	2.67
Amerindian	0.40	0.00	2.13		0.38	0.00	1.79
Oceanian	0.27	0.00	0.99		0.31	0.00	1.51
Northeast_African	0.06	0.00	0.71		0.10	0.00	1.35
Sub_Saharan	0.07	0.00	0.97		0.05	0.00	0.64

https://i.imgur.com/pZOlY9L.png

https://i.imgur.com/kR6N09H.png

any further subdivisions are unecessary imo. look how Bosnian, Croatian, Šumadijan, and South/East Serbs are all over the place.

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Originally Posted by Ljubic

Im always astonished how low the average south asian is even though Serbia has a sizeable gypsy community. It really seems that they dont mix that much with the native population and if someone has gypsy ancestry, they are aware of it.

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A century ago mixing was strict taboo and such people were very rare. Now, regretably, everything is upside down and even one such person (Ceca) gets called 'Serbian mother'. Of course, if someone scores like 5% South Asian, they won't be counted neither here, nor on academic studies.

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Originally Posted by Ljubic

Im always astonished how low the average south asian is even though Serbia has a sizeable gypsy community. It really seems that they dont mix that much with the native population and if someone has gypsy ancestry, they are aware of it.

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Mixing with Gypsies is nowhere a usual thing. Why would that be different in Serbia? Because Ustase said that?

Besides that, for having such wide spread average in a population for any component it needs to be ancient enough. All those components are probably more ancient in Serbian dna than Gypsies on Balkan.