Northern Europeans Differ from Southern Europeans

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Originally Posted by Etain

7 years of OWD...

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Retard, what is not true about what I said ? There's a genetic continnum between South and North-Europe, not a "wide gap". Just look at any PCA plot.

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Originally Posted by Etain

7 years of OWD...

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20, in your case.

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Originally Posted by Ibericus

Retard, what is not true about what I said ? There's a genetic continnum between South and North-Europe, not a "wide gap". Just look at any PCA plot.

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There is continuum all the way to Cypriots and Sephardi... Deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Ibericus

Retard, what is not true about what I said ? There's a genetic continnum between South and North-Europe, not a "wide gap". Just look at any PCA plot.

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Like Dog Breeds all dogs are more closely related to each other than to a wolf no-matter how much one looks like a wolf.

Southern and Northern Europeans have many similarities such as most carry light hair and eye genes even if they do not show up in all generations as they can be recessive on darker Europeans.

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Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker

Northern Europeans Differ from Southern Europeans

An international team of scientists lead by researchers at UC Davis Health System has found that genetically, modern Europeans fall into two groups: Northern and Southern (Mediterranean).

The findings, published in Public Library of Science Genetics, provide a method for scientists to take into account European ancestry when looking for genes involved in diseases.

"Until now, little has been known about the distribution of genetic variation in European populations and how much that distribution matters in terms of doing genetic studies" said Michael Seldin, chair of the Rowe Program in Genetics. "Now we will be able to control for these differences in European populations in our efforts to find genes that cause common diseases".

Seldin and his colleagues compared genetic data for 928 individuals. They studied 5,700 single nucleotide polymorphisms

(SNPs). SNPs are changes in which a single base in the DNA differs from the usual base at that position.

The human genome contains millions of them. Some SNPs cause disease, like the one responsible for sickle cell anemia. Others are normal variations in the genome. People with common ancestry will have many SNPs in common.

They tried to find these SNPs among Europeans. "We saw a clustering of individuals that come from either southern Europe or derived from populations that left southern Europe, or the Mediterranean, in the last 2,000 years", Seldin said.

The team identified a set of 400 informative SNP markers that scientists could now use to control for European ancestry when conducting genetic studies of disease, response to drug treatment, or side effects from therapy.

The data are also of interest to study historical human migrations. The Southern grouping included individuals from the Mediterranean zone (Greece, Italy, Portugal and Spain), as well as Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews. The Northern group included people with English, Irish, German, Swedish and Ukranian ancestry. These groups correspond to those historically and geographically divided by the Pyrenees and Alps mountain ranges.

Previous studies have found four distinct genetic human populations (groups) which SNPs correlate broadly with continental ancestry: Asia, Africa, Oceania, America and continental Europe. The new study further subdivides people with European ancestry into the Northern and Southern groups.

The researchers analyzed two sets of data to prove this. They looked at SNPs associated with rheumatoid arthritis and found that, when they corrected for ancestry, several of the genes that were previously believed to be good candidates for being involved in the disease were no longer candidates at all. They also corrected for ancestry in a data set looking at lactose intolerance. "When we did not control for differences in population structure, we got a lot of false associations", Seldin explained.

Seldin and his colleagues will soon be expanding the current European study by looking at 500,000 SNPs. They also have plans for similar studies of other continental populations and for further defining different subpopulations.

Seldin said studies of other continents and ethnic groups are necessary if science is to get the most out of the advances made by the Human Genome Project. "The ultimate aim of these studies is to be able to better define subgroups and use this information to eliminate false associations, giving us a better chance of finding true associations for disease genes", Seldin said.

Source: Softpedia

(Thank you, Groenewolf, for putting this article on Facebook)

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sure they do, in the sense that southern europeans are far more better looking than nothern europeans.

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Originally Posted by MEDACHE

sure they do, in the sense that southern europeans are far more better looking than nothern europeans.

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It is all subjective,,, the Diets are different,, Southerners tend to be healthier per capita vs the Northerners. However, the Northerners are more efficient running their economies, more productive, and are more stable for investors.

I suppose the UK does not fit the normal Northern European model as their model is some sense is similar to the Mediterranean Model in some aspects especially when it comes to government inefficiencies and weak safety nets.

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Originally Posted by JohnSmith

It is all subjective,,, the Diets are different,, Southerners tend to be healthier per capita vs the Northerners. However, the Northerners are more efficient running their economies, more productive, and are more stable for investors.

I suppose the UK does not fit the normal Northern European model as their model is some sense is similar to the Mediterranean Model in some aspects especially when it comes to government inefficiencies and weak safety nets.

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No, not your nonsense!!! Southern Europeans are much better-looking than Northern Europeans including the U.K.! How can one be more Northern-European than the U.K., they have the whitest skins with freckles and so on.

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Originally Posted by Septentrion

No, not your nonsense!!! Southern Europeans are much better-looking than Northern Europeans including the U.K.! How can one be more Northern-European than the U.K., they have the whitest skins with freckles and so on.

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That is not true,, there is plenty of variance in Europeans. Many Scandinavian and I have some in-laws that are Scandinavian descended can tan better than me.

The ugliest people I've seen were portuguese and greeks.
The prettiest were the irish and swedes.