South Slavic & neighbours gedmatch results - vol.2

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Originally Posted by CommonSense

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No 1 Serbian, and someone say Krajina Muslims are islamized Croatians.
Bosniak Džajić from Ključ got no 1 Serbian, I posted his K13 on other thread.
I have seen few Bosniaks from Cazinska Krajina most western region of Bosnia with no 1 Serbian.

Đulančić, Bosniak from Čajniče and Goražde (east Bosnia):

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Kit RW9425244

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.68
2 North_Atlantic 24.03
3 West_Med 17.14
4 East_Med 15.01
5 West_Asian 7
6 South_Asian 1.76
7 Red_Sea 1.31
8 Amerindian 1.03
9 East_Asian 0.48
10 Northeast_African 0.37
11 Siberian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.51
2 Serbian 5.71
3 Croatian 7.25
4 Romanian 7.97
5 Hungarian 9.32
6 Bulgarian 9.49
7 Austrian 13.2
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.53
9 East_German 13.93
10 South_Polish 14.38
11 Ukrainian 14.49
12 Polish 17.68
13 Greek_Thessaly 17.76
14 Southwest_Russian 17.82
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.26
16 West_German 19.45
17 Russian_Smolensk 19.63
18 Estonian_Polish 19.92
19 Belorussian 20.63
20 North_Italian 20.74

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.2% Ukrainian + 44.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.22
2 70.4% Ukrainian + 29.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.63
3 83.4% Croatian + 16.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.65
4 50.1% Polish + 49.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.68
5 64% Ukrainian + 36% West_Sicilian @ 2.69
6 80% Croatian + 20% Ashkenazi @ 2.7
7 67.2% Ukrainian + 32.8% South_Italian @ 2.73
8 72.3% Croatian + 27.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.75
9 52.9% Greek_Thessaly + 47.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.77
10 70.6% Ukrainian + 29.4% Italian_Jewish @ 2.81
11 83.6% Croatian + 16.4% Italian_Jewish @ 2.85
12 58.7% Greek_Thessaly + 41.3% Lithuanian @ 2.88
13 64.6% Ukrainian + 35.4% East_Sicilian @ 2.9
14 61.2% Bulgarian + 38.8% Ukrainian @ 3.08
15 57% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.1
16 57.8% Croatian + 42.2% Bulgarian @ 3.1
17 63.7% Ukrainian + 36.3% Central_Greek @ 3.11
18 55.5% South_Polish + 44.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.12
19 50.4% Lithuanian + 49.6% West_Sicilian @ 3.12
20 56.3% Estonian_Polish + 43.7% West_Sicilian @ 3.12

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

No 1 Serbian, and someone say Krajina Muslims are islamized Croatians.
Bosniak Džajić from Ključ got no 1 Serbian, I posted his K13 on other thread.
I have seen few Bosniaks from Cazinska Krajina most western region of Bosnia with no 1 Serbian.

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My post refers on Bosniak from Prijedor.

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

No 1 Serbian, and someone say Krajina Muslims are islamized Croatians.
Bosniak Džajić from Ključ got no 1 Serbian, I posted his K13 on other thread.
I have seen few Bosniaks from Cazinska Krajina most western region of Bosnia with no 1 Serbian.

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I posted two Bosniaks right here, both are closer to the Serbian than to the Croatian average. Also, there's that guy who Zukorlić uploaded, but I don't have access to their family tree. Carpatz knows of a Bosniak from Romanija who gets 98 Serbian + 2 Papuan (he gets some weird noise australian score) on K13 oracles. The kit is now sadly gone, though I guess the guy could be convinced to reupload.

Now here's a Serb with an interesting background.

Bačko, paternally from Knin. 1/4 of total ancestry is from there. 1/2 from Leskovac and the other quarter from Niš, Baranya and Szentendre (in Hungary!)

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Kit T702052

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.76
2 North_Atlantic 22.94
3 East_Med 21.59
4 West_Med 17.03
5 West_Asian 7.41
6 Red_Sea 1.11
7 Oceanian 0.77
8 Siberian 0.49
9 Amerindian 0.48
10 Northeast_African 0.43

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.5
2 Romanian 5.68
3 Serbian 6.78
4 Moldavian 11.36
5 Greek_Thessaly 12.56
6 Croatian 13.52
7 Hungarian 13.78
8 Austrian 17.14
9 Tuscan 17.76
10 North_Italian 17.97
11 East_German 18.66
12 Italian_Abruzzo 19.41
13 Central_Greek 19.64
14 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.7
15 West_Sicilian 20.22
16 South_Polish 20.22
17 Ukrainian 20.59
18 East_Sicilian 20.68
19 Ashkenazi 21.02
20 West_German 21.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.9% Ukrainian + 42.1% Italian_Jewish @ 3.33
2 50.5% Ukrainian + 49.5% Ashkenazi @ 3.57
3 51% South_Polish + 49% Ashkenazi @ 3.72
4 68.3% Greek_Thessaly + 31.7% Belorussian @ 3.75
5 61.4% Croatian + 38.6% Ashkenazi @ 3.78
6 52.4% Estonian_Polish + 47.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.85
7 52.3% Italian_Jewish + 47.7% Lithuanian @ 3.93
8 53.1% Ashkenazi + 46.9% Polish @ 3.93
9 58.4% South_Polish + 41.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.94
10 68% Greek_Thessaly + 32% Estonian_Polish @ 3.94
11 58.1% Ukrainian + 41.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.97
12 58.5% South_Polish + 41.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 4
13 54.4% Polish + 45.6% Italian_Jewish @ 4.02
14 72% Greek_Thessaly + 28% Lithuanian @ 4.04
15 51.9% Belorussian + 48.1% Italian_Jewish @ 4.08
16 68.4% Croatian + 31.6% Italian_Jewish @ 4.12
17 71.7% Greek_Thessaly + 28.3% Estonian @ 4.13
18 52.6% Russian_Smolensk + 47.4% Italian_Jewish @ 4.14
19 52.5% South_Italian + 47.5% Belorussian @ 4.14
20 54.9% Southwest_Russian + 45.1% Italian_Jewish @ 4.19

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Originally Posted by CommonSense

Đulančić, Bosniak from Čajniče and Goražde (east Bosnia):

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Kit RW9425244

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.68
2 North_Atlantic 24.03
3 West_Med 17.14
4 East_Med 15.01
5 West_Asian 7
6 South_Asian 1.76
7 Red_Sea 1.31
8 Amerindian 1.03
9 East_Asian 0.48
10 Northeast_African 0.37
11 Siberian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.51
2 Serbian 5.71
3 Croatian 7.25
4 Romanian 7.97
5 Hungarian 9.32
6 Bulgarian 9.49
7 Austrian 13.2
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.53
9 East_German 13.93
10 South_Polish 14.38
11 Ukrainian 14.49
12 Polish 17.68
13 Greek_Thessaly 17.76
14 Southwest_Russian 17.82
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.26
16 West_German 19.45
17 Russian_Smolensk 19.63
18 Estonian_Polish 19.92
19 Belorussian 20.63
20 North_Italian 20.74

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.2% Ukrainian + 44.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.22
2 70.4% Ukrainian + 29.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.63
3 83.4% Croatian + 16.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.65
4 50.1% Polish + 49.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.68
5 64% Ukrainian + 36% West_Sicilian @ 2.69
6 80% Croatian + 20% Ashkenazi @ 2.7
7 67.2% Ukrainian + 32.8% South_Italian @ 2.73
8 72.3% Croatian + 27.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.75
9 52.9% Greek_Thessaly + 47.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.77
10 70.6% Ukrainian + 29.4% Italian_Jewish @ 2.81
11 83.6% Croatian + 16.4% Italian_Jewish @ 2.85
12 58.7% Greek_Thessaly + 41.3% Lithuanian @ 2.88
13 64.6% Ukrainian + 35.4% East_Sicilian @ 2.9
14 61.2% Bulgarian + 38.8% Ukrainian @ 3.08
15 57% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.1
16 57.8% Croatian + 42.2% Bulgarian @ 3.1
17 63.7% Ukrainian + 36.3% Central_Greek @ 3.11
18 55.5% South_Polish + 44.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.12
19 50.4% Lithuanian + 49.6% West_Sicilian @ 3.12
20 56.3% Estonian_Polish + 43.7% West_Sicilian @ 3.12

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Quite similar as Lika Serb Vukovojac Attachment 97604

Cakić, mother of mr Bačko whom I posted above. Ancestry from Leskovac

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Kit T173215

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 25.5
2 North_Atlantic 25.19
3 East_Med 20.14
4 West_Med 17.08
5 West_Asian 8.3
6 Siberian 1.38
7 Red_Sea 1.29
8 Amerindian 0.73
9 East_Asian 0.38

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.52
2 Bulgarian 4.74
3 Serbian 5
4 Moldavian 11.29
5 Greek_Thessaly 11.94
6 Hungarian 12.53
7 Croatian 13.5
8 Austrian 15.35
9 North_Italian 15.61
10 Tuscan 15.91
11 East_German 17.18
12 Italian_Abruzzo 18
13 West_German 18.88
14 Central_Greek 18.99
15 West_Sicilian 19.11
16 French 19.13
17 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.96
18 East_Sicilian 20.1
19 Portuguese 20.21
20 South_Polish 20.3

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.4% Greek_Thessaly + 29.6% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.76
2 83.4% Serbian + 16.6% Ashkenazi @ 2.84
3 57.9% South_Polish + 42.1% Italian_Jewish @ 2.98
4 87.4% Serbian + 12.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.04
5 87.6% Serbian + 12.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.08
6 74.6% Serbian + 25.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.08
7 58.5% West_Sicilian + 41.5% Belorussian @ 3.12
8 52.4% West_Sicilian + 47.6% Ukrainian @ 3.13
9 51.3% Greek_Thessaly + 48.7% Hungarian @ 3.17
10 72.3% Greek_Thessaly + 27.7% Finnish @ 3.17
11 57.2% South_Italian + 42.8% Estonian @ 3.18
12 72.6% Greek_Thessaly + 27.4% Estonian @ 3.19
13 88.5% Bulgarian + 11.5% North_Swedish @ 3.2
14 52.4% Bulgarian + 47.6% Serbian @ 3.2
15 55.8% West_Sicilian + 44.2% Southwest_Russian @ 3.21
16 67.8% Croatian + 32.2% Italian_Jewish @ 3.21
17 58.1% West_Sicilian + 41.9% Estonian_Polish @ 3.22
18 51.6% West_Sicilian + 48.4% South_Polish @ 3.25
19 63.6% Greek_Thessaly + 36.4% South_Polish @ 3.25
20 78% Bulgarian + 22% Hungarian @ 3.28

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Originally Posted by CommonSense

Now here's a Serb with an interesting background.

Bačko, paternally from Knin. 1/4 of total ancestry is from there. 1/2 from Leskovac and the other quarter from Niš, Baranya and Szentendre (in Hungary!)

Spoiler!

Kit T702052

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.76
2 North_Atlantic 22.94
3 East_Med 21.59
4 West_Med 17.03
5 West_Asian 7.41
6 Red_Sea 1.11
7 Oceanian 0.77
8 Siberian 0.49
9 Amerindian 0.48
10 Northeast_African 0.43

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.5
2 Romanian 5.68
3 Serbian 6.78
4 Moldavian 11.36
5 Greek_Thessaly 12.56
6 Croatian 13.52
7 Hungarian 13.78
8 Austrian 17.14
9 Tuscan 17.76
10 North_Italian 17.97
11 East_German 18.66
12 Italian_Abruzzo 19.41
13 Central_Greek 19.64
14 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.7
15 West_Sicilian 20.22
16 South_Polish 20.22
17 Ukrainian 20.59
18 East_Sicilian 20.68
19 Ashkenazi 21.02
20 West_German 21.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.9% Ukrainian + 42.1% Italian_Jewish @ 3.33
2 50.5% Ukrainian + 49.5% Ashkenazi @ 3.57
3 51% South_Polish + 49% Ashkenazi @ 3.72
4 68.3% Greek_Thessaly + 31.7% Belorussian @ 3.75
5 61.4% Croatian + 38.6% Ashkenazi @ 3.78
6 52.4% Estonian_Polish + 47.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.85
7 52.3% Italian_Jewish + 47.7% Lithuanian @ 3.93
8 53.1% Ashkenazi + 46.9% Polish @ 3.93
9 58.4% South_Polish + 41.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.94
10 68% Greek_Thessaly + 32% Estonian_Polish @ 3.94
11 58.1% Ukrainian + 41.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.97
12 58.5% South_Polish + 41.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 4
13 54.4% Polish + 45.6% Italian_Jewish @ 4.02
14 72% Greek_Thessaly + 28% Lithuanian @ 4.04
15 51.9% Belorussian + 48.1% Italian_Jewish @ 4.08
16 68.4% Croatian + 31.6% Italian_Jewish @ 4.12
17 71.7% Greek_Thessaly + 28.3% Estonian @ 4.13
18 52.6% Russian_Smolensk + 47.4% Italian_Jewish @ 4.14
19 52.5% South_Italian + 47.5% Belorussian @ 4.14
20 54.9% Southwest_Russian + 45.1% Italian_Jewish @ 4.19

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He is journalist, and he is I1-P109 but he is not close to Drobnjak clan.
I knew his paternal grandfather was from Ramljane near Knin, but I did not know for other 3/4.
Bačko wrote a book about history of Dalmatian Serb familes, on the photo is one of his paternal ancestors
https://porodicnoporeklo.files.wordp...zija.jpg?w=660

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

is this thread even necessary? there are separate threads for each ethnicty. this one will also get overcrowded quickly.

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I think it won't be problem, validated samples are hard to come by.
Croats from Grude you mentioned, are those academic kits from Herzegovina you already posted or something else?

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

Regardless of high North_Atlantic, Atlantic & North_Sea score on both K13 and K15 he is closer to Serbs than to Croatians - Serbs no 2, Croatians no 4. :thumb001:

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Both are obsolete and based on results of one person each darling.

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

No 1 Serbian, and someone say Krajina Muslims are islamized Croatians.

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Those native to NW Bosnia ofcourse are, and they are well aware of it. But there was population replacement in ''Turkish Croatia'' and many of the people currently living in that region including Serbs have origins from elsewhere.