Y-DNA distribution in North Africa.

Very interesting. The DF27 and U152 are definitely from Iberians probably settling in North Africa not too sure when. Maybe reconquista!

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Originally Posted by Luso

Very interesting. The DF27 and U152 are definitely from Iberians probably settling in North Africa not too sure when. Maybe reconquista!

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Most logical scenario is that these R carriers were refugees (moriscos) whom settled in North Morocco, most moriscos were R1B carriers.

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Originally Posted by Noff

Maybe just that user told you a theory, because in some websites i saw that U152 doesn't exceet 5%.
Probably most of these haplogroup it's older, around Bell Beaker, Hallstatt & La Tène cultures. But a minority sure they can comes about Iberian conquests or some acconteciment similar. Like conquest of Spain by France in Napoleonic Wars.
Or Spanish Empire conquest Benelux. Remember en Belgium or North France have DF27. It can happened the same but in reverse. I mean.. someone with U152 comes here.
I also viewed that some Germans came for a kind of repopulation in villages, a German man that comes to Iberia can perfectly had U152 haplogroup.

Just are theories, any confirmation, but You know, We want to know more about it. Not only about U152, even all haplogroups here in Iberia.

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That user had a big database and was the one to analize my raw data xD not exactly a theory. The rest is speculative for all sides.

This is very interesting actually, 2 R-L21, even more than R-DF27 and R-U152. Were there any brittish explorations to North Africa?

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Originally Posted by Noff

He's told you your subclade? :O

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He was the one that analized my raw data, yes, and i learned to do so with him.

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Originally Posted by Noff

U152 is from Central Celtic people from Hallstatt and La Tène culture.
It's like saying that haplogroup U106 is Iberian, when It's Germanic.
The Iberian's haplogroup is DF27 and their subclades.
Celtiberian haplogroup probably..

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Yeah I guess. But you also see sizable DF27 in Britain and central as well just way more in Iberia. Probably from iberians moving to those populations?

It's interesting some tribes that consider themselves arab are indeed FGC-11 under J1 which is a true Gulf clade iirc. Good to see that some people managed to remain unmixed over the years.

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Originally Posted by Voskos

It's interesting some tribes that consider themselves arab are indeed FGC-11 under J1 which is a true Gulf clade iirc. Good to see that some people managed to remain unmixed over the years.

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Arab tribes have managed to kept their tradition, culture and heritage alive in North Africa, also their arrival is very detailed documented by various historians. Most of them mixed with local population though, so autosomalic-wise most of them are between 30% and 10% Peninsular Arab admixed (23andMe).

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Originally Posted by Noff

U152 is from Central Celtic people from Hallstatt and La Tène culture.
It's like saying that haplogroup U106 is Iberian, when It's Germanic.
The Iberian's haplogroup is DF27 and their subclades.
Celtiberian haplogroup probably..

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It's very difficult to associate an haplogroup with a specific ancient people. In the case of U152, it's modern distribution doesn't correlate that well with La Tene:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c3/72...d0d92a3536.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...Ajo5aeEMhEkAqM

Its presence in Iberia and given that it peaks in north-central Italy could very well be associated with Roman movements.

Different colours in J samples could be a way to differentiate J subclades who could come from Jewish people and other populations from Levant ?

And same for E different colours, to differentiate more native North Africans subclades and those that could come from SSA?

I ask it only, I don´t know a lot about Haplotypes.