Meta-Ethnicity Calculator 2.0 (Europe Focus)

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11-27-2023, 01:11 PM
gixajo

We have always the same problem, Italic IA and BA are very close to Iberian and many of Balkan samples from same times, and modern Iberians have for real Italic input from Roman times but it´s difficult to pinpoint it through Italic IA and BA samples but more with Imperial ones.

Also continental Celtic input should be already inside Iberian BA and IA peoples from Iberia.

But it´s ok, it´s not easy to do a calculator for everybody because each ethnicity should use it´s own calculator made specifically for them. An universal calculator for everybody , and more with ancient references ends up being a "overlapping nightmare".:thumb001:

I used 0.25X because with no penalization our results are near absurd and very fragmented and doing so seems to be quite consistent.

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.1857% / 0.01185687 | ADC: 0.25x
40.0 Iberian
37.2 Celtic
16.6 Italic
5.2 Balkan
1.0 Germanic

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.2607% / 0.01260686 | ADC: 0.25x
45.0 Iberian
28.4 Celtic
22.2 Balkan
3.8 Berber
0.6 Bantu

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 0.9223% / 0.00922291 | ADC: 0.25x
42.6 Iberian
30.2 Italic
22.4 Celtic
4.4 Germanic
0.4 Berber

Target: gixajo_enana_scaled
Distance: 0.5238% / 0.00523827 | ADC: 0.25x
41.4 Iberian
40.0 Celtic
17.8 Italic
0.8 Germanic
11-27-2023, 04:10 PM
JerryS.

That's a lot of French!

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.0048% / 0.01004767
15.0 Germanic:LongobardGermanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ11
12.6 Germanic:GermanicMigration: DEU_MA:NW_255
11.8 Germanic:NLD_MBA_LBA:1250_860_k4c
10.4 Celtic:6DT18
8.8 Germanic:GermanicMigration:SVK_Poprad_MA:DA119
8.4 Celtic:England_IA:I0156
7.2 Celtic:Celtic:VeryGaulCeltoLigures_LT:FRA_Occitani e_IA2:PEY53
6.6 Germanic:LongobardGermanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ15
5.2 Celtic:CeltoLigures_LT:FRA_Occitanie_IA2:PEY163
4.6 Hellenic:GRC_Minoan_Lassithi:I0070
2.4 Germanic: DEU_Halberstadt_LBA
2.0 Germanic:GermanicMigration:Migration_LIB:LIB2
1.6 Baltic:Baltic_EST_BA:s19_X15_2
1.0 Hellenic:GRC_Minoan_Lassithi:I9005
1.0 Berber:MAR_EN_tf:taforalt_alike_BC5600_4800_k5c
0.8 Germanic:LongobardGermanic:ITA_Collegno_MA:CL93
0.6 Caucasian:RUS_North_Caucasus_MBA

Removing French references:

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.0564% / 0.01056382
19.8 Germanic:NLD_MBA_LBA:1250_860_k4c
14.8 Germanic:LongobardGermanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ11
11.8 Germanic:GermanicMigration:SVK_Poprad_MA:DA119
10.6 Celtic:England_IA:I0156
7.8 Celtic:6DT18
5.4 Germanic:GermanicMigration: DEU_MA:NW_255
4.6 Germanic:LongobardGermanic:ITA_Collegno_MA:CL93
4.6 Celtic:6DT3
4.2 Hellenic:GRC_Minoan_Lassithi:I0070
3.2 Hellenic:GRC_Minoan_Odigitria_low_res:I9130
3.0 Italic: ProtoItalic:ITA_Broion_BA:BRC003
2.8 Germanic: DEU_Halberstadt_LBA
2.4 Germanic:LongobardGermanic:ITA_Collegno_MA:CL146
2.0 Germanic:LongobardGermanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ15
1.0 Baltic:Baltic_EST_BA:s19_X15_2
1.0 Berber:MAR_EN_tf:taforalt_alike_BC5600_4800_k5c
0.6 Hellenic:GRC_Minoan_Lassithi:I9005
0.4 Slavic:Sorb
11-27-2023, 05:09 PM
noricum

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.1569% / 0.01156929
36.6 Celtic
21.0 Slavic
12.8 Baltic
11.6 Germanic
10.4 Balkan
6.6 Italic
1.0 Iranic

Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
0.02765643 Celtic:Celtic:Celt_HLT:HUN_LaTene_IA:I20774
0.03256589 Germanic:Viking_nordic_Mix_Slavic
0.04006073 Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad
0.04042076 Germanic:Medieval_Frank
0.04081303 Celtic:Celtic_Hallsttat
0.04296864 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.04296864 Germanic:Frisian
0.04341445 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.04392224 Celtic:Belgae_Champagne
0.04406824 Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA2
0.04408156 Celtic:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:BC1050_k20c
0.04442437 Slavic:Sorb
0.04498348 Celtic:Celtic_Briton
0.04580652 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.04582772 Slavic:RUS_Gnezdovo_VA
0.04591672 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.04608242 Germanic:LongobardGermanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ42
0.04656467 Germanic:GermanicMigration:DEU_MA:ALH_10
0.04690127 Celtic:CZE_MBA_Tumulus:BC1375_k4c
0.04733328 Celtic:Gallic_Alsace
0.04804153 Celtic:3DT16
0.04882498 Slavic:UKR_Lutsk_MA
0.04892614 Germanic:LongobardGermanic:ITA_Collegno_MA:CL92
0.04896893 Germanic:Longobard
0.04898831 Celtic:6DT22

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The LaTene Celt from Hungary is one of theses Hungarian Basin samples that turns out quite "Slavic" although predating the historic expansion of Slavs in this area.

Target: Celtic:Celtic:Celt_HLT:HUN_LaTene_IA:I20774
Distance: 1.9055% / 0.01905505
45.0 Polish_Kashubian
25.8 Basque_French
9.8 French_Seine-Maritime
8.6 Orcadian
4.8 Lithuanian_PZ
1.8 Lithuanian
1.6 Brahmin_Telugu_Niyogi
1.6 German_East
1.0 Georgian_Mtiuleti

Distance to: Celtic:Celtic:Celt_HLT:HUN_LaTene_IA:I20774
0.02318749 German_East
0.02931709 German_Hamburg
0.03189232 German_Erlangen
0.03229837 German
0.03246794 Czech
0.03308110 Croat_North
0.03386615 Slovenian
0.03695111 BelgianA
0.03708727 Austrian
0.03734172 Hungarian
0.03777203 Orcadian
0.03820353 Danish
0.03915820 Dutch
0.03943700 Swedish
0.03954848 English
0.03959654 Welsh
0.03977677 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04043633 English_Cornwall
0.04049214 Scottish
0.04056438 Icelandic
0.04143179 Norwegian
0.04205993 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.04311759 French_Brittany
0.04357837 Afrikaner
0.04362469 Shetlandic
11-27-2023, 05:12 PM
cass

Target: cass
Distance: 0.4654% / 0.00465437
28.4 Celtic
23.6 Germanic
20.8 Baltic
19.4 Slavic
5.2 Hellenic
1.4 Anatolian
0.8 Iberian
0.2 Han
0.2 Italic

:thumb001:
Target: cass
Distance: 0.6726% / 0.00672619 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.6 Slavic
21.6 Celtic
18.8 Germanic
11-27-2023, 08:38 PM
Xavier727

Distance to: scaled
0.01503668 Celtic:England_IA
0.02062691 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.02063517 Germanic:Frisian
0.02084308 Celtic:Scotland_EIA
0.02084308 Celtic:England_IA
0.02108692 Germanic:Longobards_average
0.02280345 Celtic:Scotland_LBA
0.02328640 Germanic:LongobardGermanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ7
0.02378981 Germanic:Germany_EMedieval_Alemanic
0.02398345 Celtic:England_IA_ERoman.SG
0.02444053 Celtic:Celtic_Briton
0.02505859 Celtic:3DT16
0.02570759 Germanic:LongobardGermanic:ITA_Collegno_MA:CL146
0.02572463 Germanic:LongobardGermanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ16
0.02579078 Celtic:England_IA:I0156
0.02709954 Germanic:LongobardGermanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ11
0.02776662 Germanic:LongobardGermanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ13
0.02848272 Germanic:GermanicMigration:DEU_MA:ALH_1
0.02855261 Germanic:LongobardGermanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ42
0.02857108 Celtic:6DT22
0.02924064 Germanic:LongobardGermanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ22
0.02938017 Celtic:Belgae_Champagne
0.02947508 Celtic:England_IA:I0160
0.02967070 Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA2
0.02982176 Celtic:6DT21

Target: scaled
Distance: 0.5340% / 0.00534043
63.0 Germanic
35.4 Celtic
0.8 Baltic
0.4 Italic
0.2 Berber
0.2 Turkic
11-27-2023, 10:18 PM
#Oda#

Distance to: #Oda#_scaled
0.01783702 Germanic:LongobardGermanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ11
0.02053595 Celtic:England_IA
0.02115020 Germanic:Nordic_EBA:SWE_BC2700_1750_k5c
0.02147628 Germanic:Germany_EMedieval_Alemanic
0.02300723 Germanic:DEU_Halberstadt_LBA
0.02419340 Germanic:GermanicMigration:DEU_MA_ACD:STR_355

Target: #Oda#_scaled
Distance: 0.6138% / 0.00613762
73.6 Germanic
10.4 Celtic
6.6 Slavic
5.0 Baltic
4.4 Hellenic
11-27-2023, 10:22 PM
#Oda#

Quote:

Originally Posted by cass

Target: cass
Distance: 0.4654% / 0.00465437
28.4 Celtic
23.6 Germanic
20.8 Baltic
19.4 Slavic
5.2 Hellenic
1.4 Anatolian
0.8 Iberian
0.2 Han
0.2 Italic

:thumb001:
Target: cass
Distance: 0.6726% / 0.00672619 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.6 Slavic
21.6 Celtic
18.8 Germanic

That's a lot of Celtic for a Pole, isn't it? I would have thought I ought to have more.
11-27-2023, 11:03 PM
someonenotyou

Target:
Distance: 0.8404% / 0.00840378
30.6 Germanic
27.2 Celtic
14.0 Slavic
13.0 Baltic
8.8 Balkan
2.6 Iranic
2.2 Semitic
0.8 Turkic
0.4 Anatolian
0.4 Iberian

Target:
Distance: 0.9724% / 0.00972388 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.4 Germanic
34.4 Slavic
14.4 Celtic
3.0 Balkan
2.8 Iranic
2.6 Hellenic
1.4 Turkic
11-27-2023, 11:39 PM
CrGrt

Target: CR_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.3844% / 0.00384370 | ADC: 0.25x RC
32.2 Iberian:CelticIberian
16.4 Italic:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
8.2 Germanic:Viking_nordic_Mix_Slavic
8.2 Germanic:GermanicMigration:SVK_Poprad_MA:DA119
8.0 Germanic:Medieval_Frank
5.4 Celtic:Belgae_Hauts_De_France
4.6 Italic:ITA_ReginaMargherita_BA:GCP003A1
4.4 Iberian:Iberia_IA:Iberia_East_IA:I3327
4.0 Germanic:GermanicMigration:DEU_MA_Alemanic_Lombard ian:NIEcap6
3.0 Italic:ITA_Etruscan:RMPR474b
2.8 Germanic:LongobardGermanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ15
1.4 Germanic:GermanicMigration:DEU_MA_ACD:STR_355
1.4 Semitic:Levant_SYR_Tell_Masaikh

Target: CR_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.3843% / 0.00384265 | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.8 Iberian
32.6 Germanic
23.6 Italic
5.6 Celtic
1.4 Semitic

Target: CR_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.0054% / 0.00005432
31.8 Germanic
28.4 Celtic
15.2 Iberian
6.4 Nuragic
6.0 Italic
3.2 Hellenic
2.8 Semitic
2.2 Anatolian
2.2 Berber
1.6 Balkan
0.2 Iranic

Distance to: CR_simulated_g25_scaled
0.01881986 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.02233554 Balkan:HRV_Bezdanjaca_BA:BC1150_k16c
0.02408617 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:BC2100_1650_k17c
0.02438777 Balkan:HRV_Bezdanjaca_BA:BC1500_k7c
0.02450039 Celtic:Celts
0.02469753 Italic:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.02478868 Celtic:FRA_SouthEast_EBA:BC2100_B_k4c
0.02681972 Iberian:CelticIberian
0.02795734 Iberian:Indigetes
0.03011883 Balkan:HRV_MBA
0.03195508 Italic:ITA_ReginaMargherita_BA:k2
0.03198117 Celtic:CZE_MBA_Tumulus:BC1375_k4c
0.03203201 Balkan:Istria_HRV_MBA:BC1375_k3c
0.03203201 Balkan:Istria_HRV_MBA:BC1375_k3c
0.03225324 Celtic:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:BC1050_k20c
0.03227110 Italic:DEU_Roman
0.03314627 Germanic:Medieval_Frank
0.03402498 Italic:ITA_ReginaMargherita_BA:GCP002A1
0.03590496 Celtic:Celtic:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA1:Jeb8
0.03614771 Celtic:DEU_Singen_EBA:2100_1800_k11c
0.03629619 Celtic:Belgae_Champagne
0.03630340 Iberian:Celtiberian
0.03633665 Celtic:LeponticAlps:CHE_IA:SX18
0.03659067 Celtic:CHE_EBA:BC2150_1600_k4c
0.03673259 Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA2
11-28-2023, 01:00 AM
cass

Quote:

Originally Posted by #Oda#

That's a lot of Celtic for a Pole, isn't it? I would have thought I ought to have more.

Rather predictable considering

Target: German_East_Prussia_Central
Distance: 0.8762% / 0.00876183 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.6 Celtic
33.2 Germanic
10.0 Slavic
9.2 Baltic

Target: PolishL_WlkpWest1
Distance: 1.0874% / 0.01087387 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.4 Slavic
36.4 Celtic
20.6 Baltic
4.6 Germanic

Target: Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian2
Distance: 1.7653% / 0.01765283 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.4 Slavic
26.6 Celtic
15.0 Baltic
8.0 Germanic

Target: German_Farther_Pomerania
Distance: 1.0099% / 0.01009895 | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.0 Slavic
27.2 Germanic
23.8 Celtic

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