I haven't been tested, but looking around me i appear like the rest of the mongrels of Europe here in Britain.....R1b 11
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I haven't been tested, but looking around me i appear like the rest of the mongrels of Europe here in Britain.....R1b 11
I am probably one of the palest people on the board and yet I belong to yDNA haplogroup G2*, a Caucasian haplogroup. Sadly, you cannot guess a haplogroup by comparing phenotypes.
On the other hand, my mtDNA is U5a2c, a very typically Saami haplogroup and geographically very distantly located from the Caucasus.
My type of R1b is odd, R1b1b2 M269, I cannot accurately determine a source population, and how they came to Yorkshire.
From what I understand M269 is pretty much present all over Europe, so perhaps it is the "generic" European type?
Read this tidbit on wiki:
"Although the precise route of the M269 marker is not known, it has been theorized to originate in Central Asia/South Central Siberia."
"This subgroup is believed by some to have existed before the last Ice Age and has been associated with the Aurignacian culture."
Sooooo, hmmmm. I am an authentic UP person then? :D UP physical type, UP paternal DNA. :P
I've been searching FTDNA, and R1b1b2 M269 is a very significant result among the Irish regional project (the largest result group actually).
Ach, I cracked the puzzle, my type of R1b is most found in Western Europe, and is "Italo-Celto-Anatolian", meaning that it is most frequent among Italo, Celto, and Anatolian populations. Given that I received it via Yorkshire, it is logical to assume an ancient Yorkshire Celto connection. :D
Been doing some reading. :D
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/origin...rope.shtml#R1b
I've been searching for matches on genetree, and all my matches seem to revolve around people who's main paternal ancestor go back to England, Scotland, Norway, Denmark, and Sweden, all R1b1b2 M269, the matches 72% and greater, my highest match is 80%.
So maybe my R1b1b2 M269 is a Germanic rather than Celtic one?
I do not match with any of the M222 Irish folk and such.
A Germanic R1b would also go along with my Yorkshire ancestry.
The Dogger Bank was pretty close to Yorkshire on a lateral p.o.v. specifically the East Riding region, where my family is from. :D This may explain the commonality of R1b1b2 M269 amongst the English, Scottish, Swedish, Norwegian, and Danish folks that I match with.
M269 coming into existence right at the end of the Upper Paleolithic would perhaps result in a Mesolithic Doggerland settlement having that haplogroup, though the last I heard the Doggerlander's were I2b, so not too sure on this one.