Buttblasted Jukka is buttblasted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harkonnen
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Buttblasted Jukka is buttblasted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harkonnen
All when N is found, that is from Finnsih migration from Siberia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harkonnen
"The Y-chromosome haplogroup N-M231 (Hg N) is distributed widely in eastern and central Asia, Siberia, as well as in eastern and northern Europe. Previous studies suggested a counterclockwise prehistoric migration of Hg N from eastern Asia to eastern and northern Europe. However, the root of this Y chromosome lineage and its detailed dispersal pattern across eastern Asia are still unclear. We analyzed haplogroup profiles and phylogeographic patterns of 1,570 Hg N individuals from 20,826 males in 359 populations across Eurasia. We first genotyped 6,371 males from 169 populations in China and Cambodia, and generated data of 360 Hg N individuals, and then combined published data on 1,210 Hg N individuals from Japanese, Southeast Asian, Siberian, European and Central Asian populations. The results showed that the sub-haplogroups of Hg N have a distinct geographical distribution. The highest Y-STR diversity of the ancestral Hg N sub-haplogroups was observed in the southern part of mainland East Asia, and further phylogeographic analyses supports an origin of Hg N in southern China. Combined with previous data, we propose that the early northward dispersal of Hg N started from southern China about 21 thousand years ago (kya), expanding into northern China 12–18 kya, and reaching further north to Siberia about 12–14 kya before a population expansion and westward migration into Central Asia and eastern/northern Europe around 8.0–10.0 kya. This northward migration of Hg N likewise coincides with retreating ice sheets after the Last Glacial Maximum (22–18 kya) in mainland East Asia."
Is that a lie too? :)
Below is a map of confirmed instances of I-M26 found in prehistoric remains. Lots of others could have potentially been added -- ancestral clades, closely related sister clades, and ones where the coverages is insufficient to determine whether it is indeed M26 (or L672 L160 etc.) But we decided to err on the side of being conservative.
Going chronologically, we have M26 in what is now Sweden, at the Motala site, at 7730 BP (Before Present). These were Hunter/Gatherers.
http://snplogic.blogspot.com/2015/06...rstanding.html
Yes, it's total nonsense. If I'm honest the Chinese have a agenda to prove the Chinese origin of N, and they publish these poorly made studies every 3 months. You shouldn't take them seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic
Here's Lawrence Maykas opinion on that study:
http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...ls-split/page3Quote:
Originally Posted by lgmayka
Mayka is expert on this stuff; he speaketh truth.
:picard2:
the truth will free youQuote:
Originally Posted by Rethel
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Originally Posted by Harkonnen
1) I can't enter in this thread becouse i am not a member of the forum.
2) That guy still can't prove that N is of European origin (as you are claiming in every thread).
The truth is that "N" haplogroup originated in Europe?? (as Harkonnen say)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundqvist
no, rather that R1 is originally Mongoloid (Steppe Mongoloid), N is interesting case, to me QPR is Steppe Mongoloid, others like the Chinese are Sinoids "only", with more or less from SM featuresQuote:
Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic
Yeah. But N is mongoloid also. Finns just try to hide it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundqvist
Conclusion is that N is of mongoloid origin, like all descedants of the haplogroup "K".Quote:
Originally Posted by Longobarda
K2a (NO) was not mongoloid as proven by those couple studies I linked yesterday. K2b was for sure mongoloid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic
Also - Gabi Garcia woul kill you - deal with it
"The Caucausoid/Mongoloid split happens with the IJ/K split, K migrating to Asia and becoming Mongoloid, IJ remaining in the Fertile Crescent becoming Caucausoid. Haplogroup G & H also Caucasoid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harkonnen
Descendants of K (R1a,R1b, a few Q, a few N), and some E clades migrate back into Caucasoid areas and become Caucasoid over time from mixing."
That is what science say. N is of Mongoloid origin, like all "K" descedants. And you know it.
Science vs Harkonnen 1-0
science vs R1 1-0
KOKKASOIDQuote:
Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic
Do not mistake thyself, knave. We will tear down your walls, dine in your keeps and take away fruits of your hard labor while your hamlets burn.
No no Kokkasoid. Mongoloid!Quote:
Originally Posted by Harkonnen
Europeized Asians
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...aplogroups.png
No it was not.
apple groups?
probably was mongolid but lost all of it by thousand of thousands oif years of mixing
with other haplogroups like haplogroup I-M170 and others .
It couldn;t be mongoloidic, as Mal'ta boy who was pre-R1 (R*) and who was a castizo,Quote:
Originally Posted by kingjohn
had 71% caucasian and 25% amerindian. Rest 4% papuan. Nothing mongoloidic. In 50%
or 60% was even EHG - the very IE au, which was exclusivly R1, so logaclly he had
nothing mongoloidic, and obviously was a mix, typical castizo.
connected to q
why you ashame ?
i am not ashame that i am connected to e1b1a through the pn2 clade but it hapened 30,000 -32,000 yeasr
ago so who gives a fuck
don't be ashamed ?
E1b master race!
look at my avatar this is my paternal grandfather brother true e1b1b1 hail .... :)
Where did you read about shame? :picard2:Quote:
Originally Posted by kingjohn
I forget, that you are reading what you want to read.
So, bye.
Though, amerindian au is not the same as mongoloidic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundqvist
And still is separate from IE one. Sometimes did cross,
but was separate since the boeginning.
Personaly I deeply doubt, that R and Q were brothers,
but it is not impossible. could be, but is very unlikely.
no we are togather in this forum it is like a catholic wedding no divorce :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rethel
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Originally Posted by kingjohn
Hunnic R1a :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rethel
https://sites.google.com/site/luandi...ngnuMaps41.jpg
more here: https://sites.google.com/site/luandihuns/home
What type of R1a :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Sundqvist
There is visible sign that Scythians are R1a too :D
from my Native Indian intuitive point of view that small R1a is M458, bigger is Z-93Quote:
Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic
But point is that R1a-M458 was not represented in Hunnic people :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Sundqvist
or not found yet
This type of R1a is not found in any mongoloid looking people i think. I think that is very specified for Slavic people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundqvist
Molecular Genealogy of a Mongol Queen’s Family and Her Possible Kinship with Genghis Khan
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5023095/
Members of the Mongol imperial family (designated the Golden family) are buried in a secret necropolis; therefore, none of their burial grounds have been found. In 2004, we first discovered 5 graves belonging to the Golden family in Tavan Tolgoi, Eastern Mongolia. To define the genealogy of the 5 bodies and the kinship among them, SNP and/or STR profiles of mitochondria, autosomes, and Y chromosomes were analyzed. Four of the 5 bodies were determined to carry the mitochondrial DNA haplogroup D4, while the fifth carried haplogroup CZ, indicating that this individual had no kinship with the others. Meanwhile, Y-SNP and Y-STR profiles indicate that the males examined belonged to the R1b-M343 haplogroup
a pic of those noble people from German version of Wikipedia - do you see that redish-white skin tone?:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ith_mother.jpg
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolen
https://youtu.be/EY39fkmqKBMQuote:
Originally Posted by Rethel
I found this when I googled "Amerindian"Quote:
Originally Posted by Rethel
http://pixdaus.com/files/items/pics/...f64e_large.jpg