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This is me... curious as to how close I am to the Friuli sample...
SOUTH_BALTIC 9.75
EAST_EURO 8.58
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 24.35
ATLANTIC 16.98
WEST_MED 13.81
EAST_MED 16.65
WEST_ASIAN 6.13
MIDDLE_EASTERN 3.75
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -
https://image.ibb.co/n9zYZv/MINARD.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by MINARD777
Mine are:
SOUTH_BALTIC 9.10
EAST_EURO 10.93
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 25.31
ATLANTIC 22.06
WEST_MED 14.16
EAST_MED 5.97
WEST_ASIAN 8.19
MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.35
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.51
EAST_AFRICAN 1.41
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -
https://image.ibb.co/gq40Wa/inquizzitor.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Inquizzzitor
I think he takes everything (even your non-Euro) into account. In my case, I cluster with Italians in all these PCA maps, in part, because I have some Italian mixture, but also, because my minor SSA pulls me a bit south of Iberians and my Amerindian pulls me a bit east of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by PentaDrägon
thank you! btw, im planning on doing 23andme soon! cant wait! 23 is a lot better than ftdna.Quote:
Originally Posted by alnortedelsur
Calabria:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 34.2
2 WEST_MED 17.12
3 MIDDLE_EASTERN 14.61
4 WEST_ASIAN 10.91
5 ATLANTIC 7.55
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 7.06
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 5.37
8 EAST_AFRICAN 1.9
9 EAST_EURO 1.28
Calabria:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 32.54
2 WEST_MED 16.93
3 WEST_ASIAN 13.56
4 ATLANTIC 12.01
5 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.93
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 8.94
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 2.65
8 EAST_EURO 0.73
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.71
10 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.01
Calabria:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 30.57
2 WEST_MED 18.59
3 WEST_ASIAN 13.13
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.17
5 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 10.35
6 ATLANTIC 7.07
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 6.33
8 EAST_EURO 2.45
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.33
Calabria:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 30.57
2 WEST_MED 18.59
3 WEST_ASIAN 13.13
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.17
5 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 10.35
6 ATLANTIC 7.07
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 6.33
8 EAST_EURO 2.45
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.33
Calabria:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 29.82
2 WEST_MED 19.43
3 WEST_ASIAN 16.07
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 12.71
5 MIDDLE_EASTERN 10.57
6 ATLANTIC 5.54
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 3.26
8 EAST_EURO 2.09
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.3
10 WEST_AFRICAN 0.23
https://image.ibb.co/bShHev/Calabria.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Sikeliot
Calabria is like Dodecanese. Cool.
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 12.91
EAST_EURO 10.27
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 26.77
ATLANTIC 29.96
WEST_MED 10.57
EAST_MED 2.47
WEST_ASIAN 4.44
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN 1.59
EAST_AFRICAN 0.13
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 0.38
WEST_AFRICAN 0.49
NAILED IT! I am basically like a person from Friuli. Makes perfect sense, no? I am 3/8 S Italian and C Italian, 1/16 Ashkenazi (some Sephardi/Italkim maybe too), 1/16 East European (Slovak, Russian, and Hungarian), 1/2 White American of multiple roots including Swedish, German, British Isles, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibericus
Could you please add this Albanian who I match who I think is from Montenegro judging by his surname which is from the Grude clan, he seems to plot north on K15 and interestingly he has the same haplogroup as me?
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 14.77
EAST_EURO 6.73
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 16.96
ATLANTIC 14.68
WEST_MED 12.77
EAST_MED 20.85
WEST_ASIAN 8.00
MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.84
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 0.37
WEST_AFRICAN -
https://image.ibb.co/diahev/teutorigos.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by TEUTORIGOS
Ibericus can you put an average for Calabria, Messina, palermo and SE Sicily on there for all future used charts?
https://image.ibb.co/fE7sCF/kelmendasi.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Kelmendasi
Damn these Montenegrin Albos are northern, he beats Bulgarians in this regardQuote:
Originally Posted by Ibericus
i have only kits from Messina..Quote:
Originally Posted by Sikeliot
Use the results I posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibericus
https://image.ibb.co/h63Dma/south_italians.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Sikeliot
Those Greek islanders look too outlying to me again. I think you should discard your sample, it seems unrepresentative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibericus
Redo it with these:
Dodecanese:
#1:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 33.39
2 WEST_MED 17.18
3 WEST_ASIAN 14.26
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 11.25
5 MIDDLE_EASTERN 7.78
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 7.21
7 ATLANTIC 4.93
8 EAST_EURO 3.2
9 EAST_ASIAN 0.54
10 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.27
#2:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 34.78
2 WEST_MED 16.44
3 WEST_ASIAN 14.88
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 9.01
5 ATLANTIC 8.83
6 MIDDLE_EASTERN 6.82
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 6.07
8 EAST_EURO 1.43
9 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.99
10 SIBERIAN 0.74
11 EAST_ASIAN 0.01
#3:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 32.23
2 WEST_MED 16.51
3 WEST_ASIAN 11.19
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 11.17
5 ATLANTIC 9.04
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.74
7 MIDDLE_EASTERN 7.75
8 EAST_EURO 2.45
9 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.91
#4:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 31.81
2 WEST_MED 18.16
3 WEST_ASIAN 15.46
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 11.5
5 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.36
6 ATLANTIC 8.33
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 2.53
8 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.56
9 SIBERIAN 0.3
#5:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 30.65
2 WEST_ASIAN 14.64
3 WEST_MED 12.14
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.45
5 SOUTH_BALTIC 9.39
6 EAST_EURO 7.56
7 ATLANTIC 7.23
8 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 6.78
9 EAST_ASIAN 0.11
10 WEST_AFRICAN 0.05
Chios:
#1:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 27.99
2 WEST_ASIAN 13.12
3 WEST_MED 12.56
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 12.52
5 SOUTH_BALTIC 9.99
6 MIDDLE_EASTERN 8.73
7 ATLANTIC 7.15
8 EAST_EURO 7.1
9 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.85
#2:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 33.59
2 WEST_ASIAN 16.47
3 WEST_MED 15.67
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 9.28
5 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 8.88
6 ATLANTIC 6.66
7 MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.35
8 EAST_EURO 4.11
#3:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 30.86
2 WEST_ASIAN 16.34
3 WEST_MED 15.74
4 ATLANTIC 10.11
5 MIDDLE_EASTERN 7.68
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 7.54
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 7.1
8 EAST_EURO 4.62
#4:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 32.99
2 WEST_MED 17.81
3 WEST_ASIAN 14.12
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 10.24
5 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 9.13
6 ATLANTIC 7.6
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 5.08
8 EAST_EURO 2.69
9 SIBERIAN 0.25
10 WEST_AFRICAN 0.08
11 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.02
#5:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 33.99
2 WEST_MED 17.99
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 15.46
4 WEST_ASIAN 13.15
5 ATLANTIC 6.98
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 6.37
7 MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.59
8 EAST_EURO 0.33
9 WEST_AFRICAN 0.14
Cool ! Thanks a lot bro ! Much appreciated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibericus
Please plot mine! thank you in advance!
Me:
23:
Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 24.67
2 WEST_MED 22.96
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 15.35
4 ATLANTIC 11.61
5 WEST_ASIAN 8.85
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.33
7 EAST_EURO 5.45
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.77
LivingDNA:
Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 24.35
2 WEST_MED 22.5
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.31
4 WEST_ASIAN 12.45
5 ATLANTIC 10.53
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.95
7 EAST_EURO 4.99
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.92
My Father:
Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 24.71
2 WEST_MED 20.71
3 ATLANTIC 13.93
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 11.91
5 SOUTH_BALTIC 11.76
6 WEST_ASIAN 7.7
7 MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.08
8 EAST_EURO 4.11
9 SIBERIAN 0.09
3 more to add Iberibro, thank
Mine
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 26.94
2 ATLANTIC 23.95
3 WEST_MED 19.23
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 9.83
5 EAST_EURO 9.41
6 EAST_MED 6.78
7 WEST_ASIAN 3.85
Mother
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 28.03
2 ATLANTIC 24.54
3 WEST_MED 18.59
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 9.95
5 EAST_EURO 9.5
6 EAST_MED 5.86
7 WEST_ASIAN 3.52
Father
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 25.81
2 ATLANTIC 22.64
3 WEST_MED 20.22
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 9.90
5 EAST_EURO 9.35
6 EAST_MED 8.14
7 WEST_ASIAN 3.94
Anyway, this looks very accurate so you do a good job Ibericus ! Keep up the Good work. To show that Ibericus is legit his results seem pretty close to my PCA chart from Stanford university ( I am the black square) :Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibericus
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...psejzymy3h.png
Notice where I fit with regards to the Irish and British flags. Looks like Ibericus does academic quality work here. Great job ! We are getting Academic quality work here for free from Ibericus. Someone buy this man a beer or something !:thumb001:
Hi Ibericus - Could you please add mine when you have the chance. Thanks
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 14.54
EAST_EURO 11.64
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 28.74
ATLANTIC 29.05
WEST_MED 8.13
EAST_MED 1.05
WEST_ASIAN 6.85
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -
https://image.ibb.co/fdBJjv/Dibran.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Dibran
https://image.ibb.co/kC17Wa/petalpusher.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Petalpusher
Much obliged! :-P
http://i.imgur.com/wUiqvl9.gif
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 10.99
EAST_EURO 7.99
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 26.56
ATLANTIC 30.80
WEST_MED 13.87
EAST_MED 4.93
WEST_ASIAN 4.13
MIDDLE_EASTERN 0.13
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.44
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 0.17
WEST_AFRICAN -
https://image.ibb.co/m4BD4v/Grace.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 6.63
EAST_EURO 6.87
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 18.25
ATLANTIC 21.17
WEST_MED 24.29
EAST_MED 11.21
WEST_ASIAN 3.29
MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.88
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 2.21
EAST_ASIAN 0.05
SIBERIAN 0.15
WEST_AFRICAN -
Using the new V5 23andme chip, curious to see if there will be any difference.
https://image.ibb.co/j7EcWa/de_Burgh.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by de Burgh II
https://image.ibb.co/e0XmPv/Viriato.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Viriato
Gracias. Not much difference so it seems.
Sometimes i wonder if EUtest is not better than even K15, almost perfectly between my parents here and my father is FTDNA rather than 23.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibericus
Do you think you can add the mesolithic like Loschbour/Motala on the pca ? And maybe East Africa if it doesn't end up too far (W.Africa would def be too far) just to get a sense how the whole European cluster is formed in EUtest.
Thanks. A wee bit astray. :) but nothing too drastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibericus
What are your oracles on the Eutest ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley
Good to see the Sicilians added on the permanent plot. Clearly SE Sicily differs from Messina/Palermo and drifts away from the more Levant shifted cluster and toward Greece proper.
It's not really astray. I do come up on the cusp of Scandinavia and British Isles. Davidski (Eurogenes) said the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibericus
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 ATLANTIC 29.05
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 28.74
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 14.54
4 EAST_EURO 11.64
5 WEST_MED 8.13
6 WEST_ASIAN 6.85
7 EAST_MED 1.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian 3.19
2 IE 3.78
3 Scottish 4.07
4 English 5.65
5 NL 6.04
6 DK 6.08
7 Cornish 6.09
8 NO 6.34
9 West_&_Central_German 6.73
10 South_&_Central_Swedish 7.01
11 North_Swedish 10.75
12 AT 13.82
13 FR 14.7
14 HU 18.52
15 South_Finnish 19.56
16 Serbian 21.37
17 PT 22.12
18 PL 22.12
19 ES 22.35
20 EE 24.12
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68% Scottish + 32% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.7
2 66.1% Scottish + 33.9% NO @ 2.85
3 83.2% Orcadian + 16.8% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.92
4 72.8% IE + 27.2% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.93
5 83.7% Orcadian + 16.3% NO @ 3
6 97.7% Orcadian + 2.3% Lezgin @ 3
7 96% Orcadian + 4% EE @ 3.03
8 96.8% Orcadian + 3.2% LIT @ 3.04
9 92% Orcadian + 8% North_Swedish @ 3.06
10 98.5% Orcadian + 1.5% GE @ 3.07
11 97.2% Orcadian + 2.8% Belorussian @ 3.1
12 72.1% IE + 27.9% NO @ 3.11
13 97.6% Orcadian + 2.4% Northwest_Russian @ 3.11
14 96.9% Orcadian + 3.1% PL @ 3.11
15 97.2% Orcadian + 2.8% East_Finnish @ 3.11
16 97.3% Orcadian + 2.7% West_Russian @ 3.12
17 96.7% Orcadian + 3.3% South_Finnish @ 3.12
18 97.5% Orcadian + 2.5% UA @ 3.13
19 97.7% Orcadian + 2.3% Ukrainian-Russian @ 3.13
20 98% Orcadian + 2% Erzya @ 3.13
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +50% Orcadian @ 3.586883
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% IE +25% Scottish +25% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.138446
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 IE + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.093390
2 Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.097898
3 IE + Orcadian + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.126189
4 IE + IE + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.138446
5 Orcadian + Orcadian + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.172408
6 Scottish + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.184580
7 NO + Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.242635
8 IE + IE + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.273401
9 NO + Orcadian + Orcadian + Scottish @ 3.274760
10 IE + NO + Orcadian + Scottish @ 3.277389
11 IE + NO + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.286388
12 IE + IE + IE + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.298187
13 IE + Orcadian + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.313722
14 IE + IE + NO + Scottish @ 3.334099
15 NO + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.356885
16 English + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.367349
17 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.401448
18 IE + NO + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.418174
19 IE + IE + NO + Orcadian @ 3.420750
20 NO + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.460329
it's obvious all the plumbers want to be accepted as streamline euro(no Asian,Mena etc admixture) or even north euro, so Poland next to Sweden is a bit ludicrous for example, but Davidski just cherry picks the samples he uses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley
There are a lot of other people that do the runs. Have you looked on Anthrogenica?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick