New improved World Medieval G25 unscaled calculator

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Originally Posted by ph2ter

Average Greek:

[1] "distance%=0.8798"

Greek

ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN,53.8
GRECO-ROMAN,25.4
SLAVIC,8.8
ANATOLIAN,5.2
BALTIC,3.2
LEVANTINE,1
AVARIC,0.6
IBERIAN,0.6
ALANIC,0.4
PERSIAN,0.4
TARTESSIAN,0.4
NORTH_URALIC,0.2

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What is the Albanian average? I get Greco-Roman at 45 and Illyrian-Thracian at 40 roughly. Surprised I would get more Greco-Roman than Greeks?

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Originally Posted by LukaszM

SLAVIC,50.8
BALTIC,35.8
ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN,2.4
VIKING-FINN,2.2
GERMANIC,2
PERSIAN,1
ANATOLIAN,0.8
SOUTHEAST-ASIA,0.8
ARIAN,0.6
CELTIC,0.6
GRECO-ROMAN,0.6
IBERIAN,0.6
BERBER,0.4
HIMALAYAN,0.4
CELTIBERIAN,0.2
LEVANTINE,0.2
SOUTH-AMERICA,0.2
TARTESSIAN,0.2
TURKIC,0.2

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I have such position on northern Euro PCA. I asked Davidski about it (I thought it is southern pull) and he said that "something pulls you to the East, but it isn't Russia..."
So maybe this noise which I bolded is real?

https://i.postimg.cc/Fz6KqHcX/G25-North-Euro-scaled.png

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Originally Posted by MagnusDark

What is the Albanian average? I get Greco-Roman at 45 and Illyrian-Thracian at 40 roughly. Surprised I would get more Greco-Roman than Greeks?

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Random Albanian kit had 93% ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN

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Originally Posted by MagnusDark

What is the Albanian average? I get Greco-Roman at 45 and Illyrian-Thracian at 40 roughly. Surprised I would get more Greco-Roman than Greeks?

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[1] "distance%=1.0484"

Albanian

ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN,67.6
GRECO-ROMAN,14.6
SLAVIC,11.2
ANATOLIAN,2.8
BALTIC,2.6
NORTH_URALIC,0.4
SOUTHEAST-ASIA,0.4
ALANIC,0.2
JAPANESE,0.2

[1] "distance%=0.7441"

Greek_Crete

GRECO-ROMAN,45.8
ANATOLIAN,21.4
ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN,17.6
LEVANTINE,7
TARTESSIAN,2.6
PERSIAN,2.4
ALANIC,1
IBERIAN,0.8
AFRICAN,0.6
BALTIC,0.2
CELTIBERIAN,0.2
SLAVIC,0.2
VIKING-RUS,0.2

[1] "distance%=1.2281"

Greek_Central_Anatolia

GRECO-ROMAN,60.6
ANATOLIAN,14.2
ALANIC,10.2
ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN,7
PERSIAN,5.4
LEVANTINE,2.6

[1] "distance%=1.7064"

Greek_Trabzon

ALANIC,56.4
GRECO-ROMAN,30.4
PERSIAN,6.4
ANATOLIAN,4.6
LEVANTINE,2.2

pen=0.001
[1] "distance%=1.4013"

Lemgrant_unscaled

SLAVIC,36.2
BALTIC,30.2
VIKING-RUS,19.8
CELTIC,3.6
TARTESSIAN,2.6
HUNNIC,1.2
AVARIC,1
HIMALAYAN,1
IBERIAN,0.8
TURKIC,0.8
AFRICAN,0.6
GRECO-ROMAN,0.6
ARIAN,0.4
LEVANTINE,0.4
ALANIC,0.2
ANATOLIAN,0.2
BERBER,0.2
LUSITANIAN,0.2

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pen=0

[1] "distance%=0.9827"

Lemgrant_unscaled

BALTIC,50.8
GRECO-ROMAN,14.4
CELTIC,12.4
VIKING-RUS,9.6
BERBER,5.6
HUNNIC,3
HIMALAYAN,2
AFRICAN,1
ALANIC,0.8
JAPANESE,0.4

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Originally Posted by LukaszM

Random Albanian kit had 93% ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN

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Woaa. Seriously? lol Where was he from in Albania?

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Originally Posted by MagnusDark

Woaa. Seriously? lol Where was he from in Albania?

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It is a kit from G25 spreadsheet. You can check it by yourself.

Albanian:ALB212

ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN,93
SLAVIC,4.8
BALTIC,0.8
ANATOLIAN,0.6
GRECO-ROMAN,0.6
AFRICAN,0.2

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Originally Posted by LukaszM

I have such position on northern Euro PCA. I asked Davidski about it (I thought it is southern pull) and he said that "something pulls you to the East, but it isn't Russia..."
So maybe this noise which I bolded is real?

https://i.postimg.cc/Fz6KqHcX/G25-North-Euro-scaled.png

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Huns

SLAVIC,34
BALTIC,25.8
VIKING-RUS,20.2
NORTH_URALIC,4.2
VIKING-FINN,3.2
GERMANIC,2.8
HUNNIC,2.8
CELTIC,2
ALANIC,1.4
CELTIBERIAN,0.6
ANATOLIAN,0.4
ARIAN,0.4
HIMALAYAN,0.4
JAPANESE,0.4
LEVANTINE,0.4
TURKIC,0.4
NORTH-AMERICA,0.2
PERSIAN,0.2
SOUTH-AMERICA,0.2

My Illyrian-Thracian is low and Greco-Roman percentage is high. I'm not a harmony Greek and Turkish_Istanbul average. What do you think about my results?

1] "distance%=1.3417"


karakartal


GRECO-ROMAN,45.4
ANATOLIAN,30.8
ALANIC,6.6
BALTIC,3.6
TARTESSIAN,3
SLAVIC,2.2
HUNNIC,2
IBERIAN,1.6
TURKIC,1.2
CELTIC,1
ARIAN,0.8
LEVANTINE,0.8
NORTH_URALIC,0.4
SOUTHEAST-ASIA,0.4
VIKING-RUS,0.2

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Originally Posted by LukaszM

It is a kit from G25 spreadsheet. You can check it by yourself.

Albanian:ALB212

ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN,93
SLAVIC,4.8
BALTIC,0.8
ANATOLIAN,0.6
GRECO-ROMAN,0.6
AFRICAN,0.2

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Although I really appreciate enthusiasts like you and Ph2ter with their job and enthusiasm in this field, still calculators like this one, at the end of the day is just a calculator.
It doesn't mean that you are really what the calculators show you are.
I also think that so many samples just skew up the results.
Basically no chance for anyone in the Balkans to be only 5-6% Slavic apart from some Greek islanders and isolated populations like Maniots.
For more realistic results, just a few ancient populations is enough, especially if it's historically verified as well.

A model like this one for the Southern Balkans is enough I think:

"sample": "ALB212",
"fit": 2.2449,
"Balkans_IA": 58.33,
"Avar_Hungary_Szolad": 22.5,
"Mycenaean": 17.5,
"Armenia_IA_Lchashen_Metsamor": 1.67,

"sample": "Dibran",
"fit": 2.553,
"Balkans_IA": 36.67,
"Mycenaean": 33.33,
"Avar_Hungary_Szolad": 28.33,
"Armenia_IA_Lchashen_Metsamor": 1.67,

"sample": "Albanian:Average",
"fit": 1.4528,
"Avar_Hungary_Szolad": 33.33,
"Mycenaean": 30.83,
"Balkans_IA": 27.5,
"Armenia_IA_Lchashen_Metsamor": 8.33,

"sample": "Greek:Average",
"fit": 1.1578,
"Mycenaean": 35,
"Avar_Hungary_Szolad": 30.83,
"Balkans_IA": 21.67,
"Armenia_IA_Lchashen_Metsamor": 12.5,

"sample": "Greek_Crete:Average",
"fit": 2.234,
"Balkans_IA": 34.17,
"Mycenaean": 31.67,
"Armenia_IA_Lchashen_Metsamor": 30.83,
"Avar_Hungary_Szolad": 3.33,

"sample": "*****",
"fit": 2.0983,
"Avar_Hungary_Szolad": 38.33,
"Balkans_IA": 35,
"Mycenaean": 19.17,
"Armenia_IA_Lchashen_Metsamor": 7.5,

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Originally Posted by ph2ter

Usual errors include unwanted spaces between numbers. You must erase all spaces.
Also this calc is intented to be run with pen=0.001.
Simply before ')' put ',pen=0.001'

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I still get results, do you think this error alters them?

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Originally Posted by Gründig

I always get this warning:

"Warning message:
In read.table(file = file, header = header, sep = sep, quote = quote, :
incomplete final line found by readTableHeader on 'unscaled.text'"

any idea why? does it change my results?

also, what do i add into R to get pen=0?

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Open your target file, place cursor at the end near your last character, hit enter to change line and save the file.

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Originally Posted by ph2ter

[1] "distance%=1.0484"

Albanian

ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN,67.6
GRECO-ROMAN,14.6
SLAVIC,11.2
ANATOLIAN,2.8
BALTIC,2.6
NORTH_URALIC,0.4
SOUTHEAST-ASIA,0.4
ALANIC,0.2
JAPANESE,0.2

[1] "distance%=0.7441"

Greek_Crete

GRECO-ROMAN,45.8
ANATOLIAN,21.4
ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN,17.6
LEVANTINE,7
TARTESSIAN,2.6
PERSIAN,2.4
ALANIC,1
IBERIAN,0.8
AFRICAN,0.6
BALTIC,0.2
CELTIBERIAN,0.2
SLAVIC,0.2
VIKING-RUS,0.2

[1] "distance%=1.2281"

Greek_Central_Anatolia

GRECO-ROMAN,60.6
ANATOLIAN,14.2
ALANIC,10.2
ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN,7
PERSIAN,5.4
LEVANTINE,2.6

[1] "distance%=1.7064"

Greek_Trabzon

ALANIC,56.4
GRECO-ROMAN,30.4
PERSIAN,6.4
ANATOLIAN,4.6
LEVANTINE,2.2

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Interesting. I have more Greco-Roman than Albanian Average. Would I be typical or are there quite a few individually.

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Originally Posted by *****

Although I really appreciate enthusiasts like you and Ph2ter with their job and enthusiasm in this field, still calculators like this one, at the end of the day is just a calculator.
It doesn't mean that you are really what the calculators show you are.
I also think that so many samples just skew up the results.
Basically no chance for anyone in the Balkans to be only 5-6% Slavic apart from some Greek islanders and isolated populations like Maniots.
For more realistic results, just a few ancient populations is enough, especially if it's historically verified as well.

A model like this one for the Southern Balkans is enough I think:

"sample": "ALB212",
"fit": 2.2449,
"Balkans_IA": 58.33,
"Avar_Hungary_Szolad": 22.5,
"Mycenaean": 17.5,
"Armenia_IA_Lchashen_Metsamor": 1.67,

"sample": "Dibran",
"fit": 2.553,
"Balkans_IA": 36.67,
"Mycenaean": 33.33,
"Avar_Hungary_Szolad": 28.33,
"Armenia_IA_Lchashen_Metsamor": 1.67,

"sample": "Albanian:Average",
"fit": 1.4528,
"Avar_Hungary_Szolad": 33.33,
"Mycenaean": 30.83,
"Balkans_IA": 27.5,
"Armenia_IA_Lchashen_Metsamor": 8.33,

"sample": "Greek:Average",
"fit": 1.1578,
"Mycenaean": 35,
"Avar_Hungary_Szolad": 30.83,
"Balkans_IA": 21.67,
"Armenia_IA_Lchashen_Metsamor": 12.5,

"sample": "Greek_Crete:Average",
"fit": 2.234,
"Balkans_IA": 34.17,
"Mycenaean": 31.67,
"Armenia_IA_Lchashen_Metsamor": 30.83,
"Avar_Hungary_Szolad": 3.33,

"sample": "*****",
"fit": 2.0983,
"Avar_Hungary_Szolad": 38.33,
"Balkans_IA": 35,
"Mycenaean": 19.17,
"Armenia_IA_Lchashen_Metsamor": 7.5,

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ASk randwulf at anthrogenica to help you with co-ordinates. He did this for me with updated spreadsheet and the fits are very close.

All moderns:

distance%: 0.44

Montenegrin 18.66
Greek 13.56
Polish 12.94
Belarusian 11.6
Druze 11.03
Ukrainian 8.7
Albanian 6.34
Czech 5.5
Russian_Voronez 4.07
German 3.21
Lithuanian 2.6
Bosnian 1.42
Biaka 0.36

Custom model

distance%: 0.48

Greek 33.82
Belarusian 23.88
Czech 12.1
Polish 11.31
Albanian 9.71
Montenegrin 9.18

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Originally Posted by Dick

ASk randwulf at anthrogenica to help you with co-ordinates. He did this for me with updated spreadsheet and the fits are very close.

All moderns:

distance%: 0.44

Montenegrin 18.66
Greek 13.56
Polish 12.94
Belarusian 11.6
Druze 11.03
Ukrainian 8.7
Albanian 6.34
Czech 5.5
Russian_Voronez 4.07
German 3.21
Lithuanian 2.6
Bosnian 1.42
Biaka 0.36

Custom model

distance%: 0.48

Greek 33.82
Belarusian 23.88
Czech 12.1
Polish 11.31
Albanian 9.71
Montenegrin 9.18

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That looks blurry...
I mean, wtf, Druze, Belorussian, Greek, like one big stew.
Overall, what you need to know is the average of your native population, whether you are southern, northern, eastern or western shifted.
That might give you some clues about your modern ancestry.
Even PCA's would work just fine.
Some random chap, without any experience in this staff, might think that he really does have a Belorussian or a Druze ancestry just by looking at that nMonte model...

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Originally Posted by *****

That looks blurry...
I mean, wtf, Druze, Belorussian, Greek, like one big stew.
Overall, what you need to know is the average of your native population, whether you are southern, northern, eastern or western shifted.
That might give you some clues about your modern ancestry.
Even PCA's would work just fine.
Some random chap, without any experience in this staff, might think that he really does have a Belorussian or a Druze ancestry just by looking at that nMonte model...

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Why? We’re actually mutts. No shame in that

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Originally Posted by Dick

Why? We’re actually mutts. No shame in that

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Yes, but mix from ancient and medieval populations, not from modern ones!
For example, your "Druze" in this calc, might just be a reflection of an ancient Balkan ancestry!

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Originally Posted by *****

Yes, but mix from ancient and medieval populations, not from modern ones!
For example, your "Druze" in this calc, might just be a reflection of an ancient Balkan ancestry!

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Ok fine you’re Ancient Macedonian son of Aleksanadr

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Originally Posted by Dick

Ok fine you’re Ancient Macedonian son of Aleksanadr

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Naah, I might just be a descendant of Samuel or Krum!

Hi everyone guys!
I'm new to the forum and I would like to use this genetic calculator myself (I come from the Bacau area in Romania), how can I use the code? do i need a software? do I have to upload the raw data from 23andme?
Thank you!!

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Originally Posted by andre

Hi everyone guys!
I'm new to the forum and I would like to use this genetic calculator myself (I come from the Bacau area in Romania), how can I use the code? do i need a software? do I have to upload the raw data from 23andme?
Thank you!!

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You need to buy G25 coordinates from Davidski: http://bga101.blogspot.com/2018/02/t...available.html

> some instructions on how to use nMonte: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....-to-Use-nMonte

targetfile will contain your coordinates (scaled or unscaled, depends on the datasheet), while datafile is the spreadsheet of a calculator

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Originally Posted by *****

Although I really appreciate enthusiasts like you and Ph2ter with their job and enthusiasm in this field, still calculators like this one, at the end of the day is just a calculator.
It doesn't mean that you are really what the calculators show you are.
I also think that so many samples just skew up the results.
Basically no chance for anyone in the Balkans to be only 5-6% Slavic apart from some Greek islanders and isolated populations like Maniots.
For more realistic results, just a few ancient populations is enough, especially if it's historically verified as well.

A model like this one for the Southern Balkans is enough I think:

"sample": "ALB212",
"fit": 2.2449,
"Balkans_IA": 58.33,
"Avar_Hungary_Szolad": 22.5,
"Mycenaean": 17.5,
"Armenia_IA_Lchashen_Metsamor": 1.67,

"sample": "Dibran",
"fit": 2.553,
"Balkans_IA": 36.67,
"Mycenaean": 33.33,
"Avar_Hungary_Szolad": 28.33,
"Armenia_IA_Lchashen_Metsamor": 1.67,

"sample": "Albanian:Average",
"fit": 1.4528,
"Avar_Hungary_Szolad": 33.33,
"Mycenaean": 30.83,
"Balkans_IA": 27.5,
"Armenia_IA_Lchashen_Metsamor": 8.33,

"sample": "Greek:Average",
"fit": 1.1578,
"Mycenaean": 35,
"Avar_Hungary_Szolad": 30.83,
"Balkans_IA": 21.67,
"Armenia_IA_Lchashen_Metsamor": 12.5,

"sample": "Greek_Crete:Average",
"fit": 2.234,
"Balkans_IA": 34.17,
"Mycenaean": 31.67,
"Armenia_IA_Lchashen_Metsamor": 30.83,
"Avar_Hungary_Szolad": 3.33,

"sample": "*****",
"fit": 2.0983,
"Avar_Hungary_Szolad": 38.33,
"Balkans_IA": 35,
"Mycenaean": 19.17,
"Armenia_IA_Lchashen_Metsamor": 7.5,

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But this Albanian sample (Alb212) is really shifted heavily towards Greek_Crete:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ew2czk2jxs...lb212.png?dl=0

The money I send to "eurogenesblog at gmail dot com", but my raw data how do I send them? (excuse my ignorance but I don't understand)

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Originally Posted by andre

The money I send to "eurogenesblog at gmail dot com", but my raw data how do I send them? (excuse my ignorance but I don't understand)

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On the same e-mail you have to send your genome.

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Originally Posted by andre

The money I send to "eurogenesblog at gmail dot com", but my raw data how do I send them? (excuse my ignorance but I don't understand)

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Looking at your ethnic breakdown you should have interesting results.

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Originally Posted by andre

The money I send to "eurogenesblog at gmail dot com", but my raw data how do I send them? (excuse my ignorance but I don't understand)

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via email to eurogenesblog@gmail dot com. Preferably upload it to google drive, share it and send via email, so that you can remove the file from google drive after.

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Originally Posted by karakartal

My Illyrian-Thracian is low and Greco-Roman percentage is high. I'm not a harmony Greek and Turkish_Istanbul average. What do you think about my results?

1] "distance%=1.3417"


karakartal


GRECO-ROMAN,45.4
ANATOLIAN,30.8
ALANIC,6.6
BALTIC,3.6
TARTESSIAN,3
SLAVIC,2.2
HUNNIC,2
IBERIAN,1.6
TURKIC,1.2
CELTIC,1
ARIAN,0.8
LEVANTINE,0.8
NORTH_URALIC,0.4
SOUTHEAST-ASIA,0.4
VIKING-RUS,0.2

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any comments?

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Originally Posted by karakartal

any comments?

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Do you find it more accurate than previous?

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Originally Posted by LukaszM

It is better than all paid ancient calculators:) Not to mention mytruancestry lol:)


English:England12

CELTIC,82
VIKING-BRIT,11
CELTIBERIAN,3.6
GERMANIC,1
AQUITANIAN,0.8
BERBER,0.8
AFRICAN,0.6
LEVANTINE,0.2

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Is this a Cornish sample? Celtic 82 seems to be very high for an English person.

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Originally Posted by Impaler

Do you find it more accurate than previous?

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Yes mate.

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Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley

This is mine.

[1] "distance%=0.6371"


GERMANIC,44.6
CELTIC,39.2
VIKING-BRIT,14.4
HUNNIC,1
AQUITANIAN,0.4
VIKING-RUS,0.4

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Are you sure you are fully Irish? You seem to be less Celtic than Firemonkey and his dad and they are both British.

[1] "distance%=0.9609"

Tim_G

CELTIC,46.8
GERMANIC,42.8
VIKING-BRIT,6.8
AQUITANIAN,2
CELTIBERIAN,1.2
NORTH-AMERICA,0.2
SOUTHEAST-ASIA,0.2


[1] "distance%=0.816"

Tim_G_father

CELTIC,47.8
GERMANIC,40.4
CELTIBERIAN,3.4
AQUITANIAN,2.8
VIKING-BRIT,2.4
VIKING-FINN,2
IBERIAN,0.6
BALTIC,0.4
LEVANTINE,0.2

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Originally Posted by celticdragongod

Are you sure you are fully Irish? You seem to be less Celtic than Firemonkey and his dad and they are both British.

[1] "distance%=0.9609"

Tim_G

CELTIC,46.8
GERMANIC,42.8
VIKING-BRIT,6.8
AQUITANIAN,2
CELTIBERIAN,1.2
NORTH-AMERICA,0.2
SOUTHEAST-ASIA,0.2


[1] "distance%=0.816"

Tim_G_father

CELTIC,47.8
GERMANIC,40.4
CELTIBERIAN,3.4
AQUITANIAN,2.8
VIKING-BRIT,2.4
VIKING-FINN,2
IBERIAN,0.6
BALTIC,0.4
LEVANTINE,0.2

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Grace is the Irish Viking:)

Quote:

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Originally Posted by celticdragongod

Are you sure you are fully Irish? You seem to be less Celtic than Firemonkey and his dad and they are both British.

[1] "distance%=0.9609"

Tim_G

CELTIC,46.8
GERMANIC,42.8
VIKING-BRIT,6.8
AQUITANIAN,2
CELTIBERIAN,1.2
NORTH-AMERICA,0.2
SOUTHEAST-ASIA,0.2


[1] "distance%=0.816"

Tim_G_father

CELTIC,47.8
GERMANIC,40.4
CELTIBERIAN,3.4
AQUITANIAN,2.8
VIKING-BRIT,2.4
VIKING-FINN,2
IBERIAN,0.6
BALTIC,0.4
LEVANTINE,0.2

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How did you get those results?

I'm only getting these;

ALANIC:Russia_Alan:DA162,33.4
CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT3,23.2
ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN:Scythian_Moldova:scy305,8.5
GRECO-ROMAN:Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL121,8
IBERIAN:Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL36,7.6
PERSIAN:Iran_recent:I1955,4.8
GRECO-ROMAN:Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1:CL38,3.9
AFRICAN:South_Africa_1300BP:I9134.SG,2.7
ALANIC:Russia_Alan:DA160,2.6
CELTIC:England_IA:I0160,1.8
GERMANIC:Germany_Medieval:AED_249,1.5
GERMANIC:Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL145,1.1
SOUTHEAST-ASIA:Vietnam_BA_DongSonCulture:Vt781,0.9

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Originally Posted by Bunalim

How did you get those results?

I'm only getting these;

ALANIC:Russia_Alan:DA162,33.4
CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT3,23.2
ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN:Scythian_Moldova:scy305,8.5
GRECO-ROMAN:Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL121,8
IBERIAN:Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL36,7.6
PERSIAN:Iran_recent:I1955,4.8
GRECO-ROMAN:Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1:CL38,3.9
AFRICAN:South_Africa_1300BP:I9134.SG,2.7
ALANIC:Russia_Alan:DA160,2.6
CELTIC:England_IA:I0160,1.8
GERMANIC:Germany_Medieval:AED_249,1.5
GERMANIC:Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL145,1.1
SOUTHEAST-ASIA:Vietnam_BA_DongSonCulture:Vt781,0.9

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They were posted here: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...00#post5975300

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Originally Posted by celticdragongod

They were posted here: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...00#post5975300

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Oh, my bad. I'm only getting the medieval results, not the modern ones.

Could someone please run mine. Thanks in advance.

DacoCeltic_scaled,0.133173,0.13405,0.043369,0.0226 1,0.028313,0.01004,0.00235,0.004384,0.002863,0.006 014,-0.00747,0.008243,-0.014123,-0.004542,0.004072,-0.000796,0.001043,-0.00076,0.006913,-0.002876,-0.001123,0.004699,0.005423,0.00976,-0.005628

DacoCeltic,0.0117,0.0132,0.0115,0.007,0.0092,0.003 6,0.001,0.0019,0.0014,0.0033,-0.0046,0.0055,-0.0095,-0.0033,0.003,-0.0006,0.0008,-0.0006,0.0055,-0.0023,-0.0009,0.0038,0.0044,0.0081,-0.0047

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Originally Posted by celticdragongod

Are you sure you are fully Irish? You seem to be less Celtic than Firemonkey and his dad and they are both British.

[1] "distance%=0.9609"

Tim_G

CELTIC,46.8
GERMANIC,42.8
VIKING-BRIT,6.8
AQUITANIAN,2
CELTIBERIAN,1.2
NORTH-AMERICA,0.2
SOUTHEAST-ASIA,0.2


[1] "distance%=0.816"

Tim_G_father

CELTIC,47.8
GERMANIC,40.4
CELTIBERIAN,3.4
AQUITANIAN,2.8
VIKING-BRIT,2.4
VIKING-FINN,2
IBERIAN,0.6
BALTIC,0.4
LEVANTINE,0.2

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Yes fully Irish. Born there with all family born there going back generations. Just expanding on this the ancient samples whether they are called Germanic or Celtic are very close genetically. Germanic or Celtic labelling in genetics is a bit prone to be misleading but it is fun for these calculators. All the major genetic companies place me as fully Irish with no other input. The Irish though are very similar to other Northwestern Europeans so it's not like it is going to be easy to separate them in some of these calculators. If you look at these ancient samples and compare them individually they could fall into one basket or the other.

Personally I think people get too hung up around these labels i.e. Celtic / Germanic. They are language groups IMO but where the ancient populations that much different? Interesting to ponder isn't it?

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JKetch_old,0.0113,0.0136,0.018,0.0157,0.0127,0.008 ,0.0021,0.0033,0.0017,0.0011,-0.0073,0.0057,-0.0106,-0.0096,0.0145,-0.0009,-0.0155,0.0035,0.0011,-0.0039,0.004,0.0044,-0.0008,0.0099,-0.003

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JKetch_new,0.0112,0.0134,0.0178,0.0177,0.0144,0.00 85,0.0019,0.003,0.0017,0.0037,-0.0066,0.0072,-0.0074,-0.0101,0.0147,-0.0047,-0.0197,0.0033,-0.001,-0.0043,0.0047,0.0046,0,0.0111,-0.0035

Cheers.

Can someone please do mine and my fathers?

Me

Spoiler!

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NW_scaled,0.113823,0.144205,0.006788,-0.014212,0.003693,0.009761,0.008695,-0.003,-0.02168,-0.006014,0.000325,0.008542,-0.020069,-0.000413,0.007465,-0.003845,-0.010561,0.007221,-0.000503,0.000125,0.001872,-0.001607,0.001725,0.008796,0.002754

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NW,0.01,0.0142,0.0018,-0.0044,0.0012,0.0035,0.0037,-0.0013,-0.0106,-0.0033,0.0002,0.0057,-0.0135,-0.0003,0.0055,-0.0029,-0.0081,0.0057,-0.0004,0.0001,0.0015,-0.0013,0.0014,0.0073,0.0023

Father

Spoiler!

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Father_scaled,0.108132,0.14319,-0.04978,-0.062016,-0.031083,-0.013387,0.00893,-0.010153,-0.046427,-0.007472,0.008769,0.006444,-0.018137,0.004954,-0.0095,-0.005834,0.012647,-0.001647,-0.005908,0.002376,0.000749,0.005812,0.002342,-0.004579,-0.00455

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Father,0.0095,0.0141,-0.0132,-0.0192,-0.0101,-0.0048,0.0038,-0.0044,-0.0227,-0.0041,0.0054,0.0043,-0.0122,0.0036,-0.007,-0.0044,0.0097,-0.0013,-0.0047,0.0019,0.0006,0.0047,0.0019,-0.0038,-0.0038