Iron Age Croatia ?

Additionaly better when adding Roman, now it works for me. I guess I have something extra northeastern.

fit": 2.4673,

"HRV_MBA": 33.33,
"Baltic_EST_IA": 32.5,
"HUN_Avar_Szolad": 21.67,
"ITA_Collegno_MA_o1": 12.5,

Even slightly better when adding Mycenean instead of Roman! :o now this is really good fit...:thumb001:

"fit": 2.3808,

"Baltic_EST_IA": 36.67,
"HRV_MBA": 23.33,
"HUN_Avar_Szolad": 22.5,
"GRC_Mycenaean": 17.5,

Another model for you and me (unscaled):

[1] "distance%=0.8333"

ph2ter

HUN_Avar_Szolad,33.4
DEU_MA,22.6
RUS_Sunghir_MA,22.2
Scythian_MDA,8.2
Baltic_EST_IA,5
CZE_Early_Slav,3.8
ITA_Collegno_MA_o1,2.6
HRV_Early_IA,1.2
BGR_IA,0.8
HRV_MBA,0.2

The same but grouped:

BALTO-SLAVIC: 64.4%
BALKAN: 10.4%
SOUTHEAST-GERMANIC: 22.6%
ROMAN: 2.6%


[1] "distance%=1.7215"

Feodora

Baltic_EST_IA,28
CZE_Early_Slav,18.2
Scythian_MDA,13.8
HRV_MBA,12
HUN_Avar_Szolad,10.8
ITA_Collegno_MA_o1,7
DEU_Roman,6.4
BGR_IA,3.6
RUS_Sunghir_MA,0.2

BALTO-SLAVIC: 57.2%
BALKAN: 29.4%
SOUTHEAST-GERMANIC: 0%
ROMAN: 13.4%

You don't have Germanic, but composition of your Balto-Slavic is more northern and western than mine.

Amazing work, thank you so much! :thumb001:

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Originally Posted by ph2ter

Another model for you and me (unscaled):

[1] "distance%=0.8333"

ph2ter

HUN_Avar_Szolad,33.4
DEU_MA,22.6
RUS_Sunghir_MA,22.2
Scythian_MDA,8.2
Baltic_EST_IA,5
CZE_Early_Slav,3.8
ITA_Collegno_MA_o1,2.6
HRV_Early_IA,1.2
BGR_IA,0.8
HRV_MBA,0.2

The same but grouped:

BALTO-SLAVIC: 64.4%
BALKAN: 10.4%
SOUTHEAST-GERMANIC: 22.6%
ROMAN: 2.6%


[1] "distance%=1.7215"

Feodora

Baltic_EST_IA,28
CZE_Early_Slav,18.2
Scythian_MDA,13.8
HRV_MBA,12
HUN_Avar_Szolad,10.8
ITA_Collegno_MA_o1,7
DEU_Roman,6.4
BGR_IA,3.6
RUS_Sunghir_MA,0.2

BALTO-SLAVIC: 57.2%
BALKAN: 29.4%
SOUTHEAST-GERMANIC: 0%
ROMAN: 13.4%

You don't have Germanic, but composition of your Balto-Slavic is more northern and western than mine.

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I think you have my coordinates, can you run me too with that model if you don't mind?

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Originally Posted by Ford

I think you have my coordinates, can you run me too with that model if you don't mind?

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[1] "distance%=1.2042"

Ford

HUN_Avar_Szolad,28.2
Scythian_MDA,20.6
Baltic_EST_IA,18.6
ITA_Collegno_MA_o1,9.6
RUS_Sunghir_MA,9.2
HRV_MBA,5.6
CZE_Early_Slav,4.2
BGR_IA,2.8
DEU_Roman,1.2

BALTO-SLAVIC: 60.2%
BALKAN: 29.0%
SOUTHEAST-GERMANIC: 0%
ROMAN: 10.8%

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

They cluster east compared to SW Euros, additional Slavic + Greek or Thracian admixture. Iron Age Bulgaria (Thracian) was genetically SE European.
So I would say Albanians are Illyrians altered by Greco-Thracian and Slavic blood.

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I should probably stop reading your posts but you keep talking about Albanians. Why altered? Why should we be exactly like SW Euros when we are neighboring greeks and slavs. Do you think think there's a vacuum between them and us? This is a continuum of geographic location.

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Originally Posted by Hulu

I should probably stop reading your posts but you keep talking about Albanians. Why altered? Why should we be exactly like SW Euros when we are neighboring greeks and slavs. Do you think think there's a vacuum between them and us? This is a continuum of geographic location.

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You should stop pestering me because it's getting boring and I am tired of genetic nationalists and ''muh purity''.
Albanians have Slavic admixture like all other Balkanites. Enjoy it.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

You should stop pestering me because it's getting boring and I am tired of genetic nationalists and ''muh purity''.
Albanians have Slavic admixture like all other Balkanites. Enjoy it.

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But you make no sense, the logic you're using it's very illogical. You expect us like Spanish while we are in the Balkans. Stop talking about Albanians already.

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Originally Posted by Hulu

But you make no sense, the logic you're using it's very illogical. You expect us like Spanish while we are in the Balkans. Stop talking about Albanians already.

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Stop harassing me and telling me what to do. We are just discussing possibilites and expressing our opinions.
If you don't like my posts, ignore them and leave me alone. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

Stop harassing me and telling me what to do. We are just discussing possibilites and expressing our opinions.
If you don't like my posts, ignore them and leave me alone. Thanks.

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I'm trying to illuminate you

When I put SWE_IA, then I get

[1] "distance%=0.8327"

ph2ter

BALTO-SLAVIC,63
SOUTHEAST_GERMANIC,20.8
BALKAN,9.6
SWE_IA,4
ROMAN,2.6

SWE_IA is Nordic, but have some leanings toward Baltic.

And + RUS_Ingria_IA

[1] "distance%=0.7732"

ph2ter

BALTO-SLAVIC,49.6
SOUTHEAST_GERMANIC,20.8
BALKAN,12.8
RUS_Ingria_IA,10.2
ROMAN,3.8
SWE_IA,2.8

I would like if some of you could share your insight in this thread:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ancestry/page6

It's clear as day I got absolutely nothing Germanic and am not more than NE Europe + Med mix.
It makes it harder to figure what is half of my mom ancestry, because my DNA result don't match what family names tell me.

She is suposed to be super mixed, but none of that shows in me. I am just regular Dalmatian Croat.

Bizzare! :D

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

I would like if some of you could share your insight in this thread:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ancestry/page6

It's clear as day I got absolutely nothing Germanic and am not more than NE Europe + Med mix.
It makes it harder to figure what is half of my mom ancestry, because my DNA result don't match what family names tell me.

She is suposed to be super mixed, but none of that shows in me. I am just regular Dalmatian Croat.

Bizzare! :D

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You could be very different than she is. It is a matter of dice. Maybe you did not get her German part.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by ph2ter

[1] "distance%=1.2042"

Ford

HUN_Avar_Szolad,28.2
Scythian_MDA,20.6
Baltic_EST_IA,18.6
ITA_Collegno_MA_o1,9.6
RUS_Sunghir_MA,9.2
HRV_MBA,5.6
CZE_Early_Slav,4.2
BGR_IA,2.8
DEU_Roman,1.2

BALTO-SLAVIC: 60.2%
BALKAN: 29.0%
SOUTHEAST-GERMANIC: 0%
ROMAN: 10.8%

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If you still have my coordinates could you run me under this model as well?(if its no trouble).

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Originally Posted by MagnusDark

If you still have my coordinates could you run me under this model as well?(if its no trouble).

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[1] "distance%=1.9559"

MagnusDark

BALKAN,83.8
ROMAN,10.4
BALTO-SLAVIC,5.8


or

[1] "distance%=1.953"

MagnusDark

BGR_IA,35.8
HRV_MBA,35.8
Scythian_MDA,11.4
ITA_Collegno_MA_o1,10
Baltic_EST_IA,2.8
CZE_Early_Slav,2.4
HUN_Avar_Szolad,1.2
RUS_Sunghir_MA,0.6

I did scaled



"fit": 1.5565,

"RUS_Sunghir_MA": 30,
"Scythian_MDA": 21.67,
"ITA_Collegno_MA_o1": 15.83,
"Baltic_EST_IA": 15,
"BGR_IA": 10.83,
"DEU_MA": 3.33,
"HUN_Avar_Szolad": 3.33,
"CZE_Early_Slav": 0,
"HRV_Early_IA": 0,
"HRV_MBA": 0,

"closestDistances": [

"DEU_MA:AED_1135: 4.483054",
"HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1: 5.465189",
"CZE_Early_Slav:RISE569: 5.484033",
"Scythian_MDA:scy305: 6.356073",
"HRV_MBA:I4331: 6.549989",
"DEU_MA:ALH_3: 6.628341",
"RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6: 6.689830",
"Scythian_MDA:scy197: 6.816834",
"Scythian_MDA:scy301: 6.824213",
"HRV_Early_IA:I3313: 6.885392",
"Scythian_MDA:scy192: 6.951831",
"DEU_MA:STR_480: 7.039224",
"HRV_MBA:I4332: 7.202969",
"Scythian_MDA:scy311: 7.205523",
"DEU_MA:ALH_1: 7.361945",
"DEU_MA:ALH_10: 7.436017",
"Scythian_MDA:scy300: 7.467119",
"DEU_MA:STR_486: 7.582789",
"DEU_MA:NW_255: 7.702780",


level 2 access nmonte runner if anyone wants to use it

http://185.144.156.77:3000/?passcode=level2p0938

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Originally Posted by ph2ter

[1] "distance%=1.9559"

MagnusDark

BALKAN,83.8
ROMAN,10.4
BALTO-SLAVIC,5.8


or

[1] "distance%=1.953"

MagnusDark

BGR_IA,35.8
HRV_MBA,35.8
Scythian_MDA,11.4
ITA_Collegno_MA_o1,10
Baltic_EST_IA,2.8
CZE_Early_Slav,2.4
HUN_Avar_Szolad,1.2
RUS_Sunghir_MA,0.6

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Thank you good sir! Even tighter fit.

Can I join a game ?

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Originally Posted by Bessarion

Can I join a game ?

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Yes.

[1] "distance%=1.2975"

Bessarion

BALTO-SLAVIC,48.6
SOUTHEAST_GERMANIC,33.8
ROMAN,9.4
BALKAN,7.8
NORDIC-BALTIC,0.4


[1] "distance%=1.307"

Bessarion

CZE_Early_Slav,36.6
DEU_MA,32.6
ITA_Collegno_MA_o1,8.4
Scythian_MDA,6.8
Baltic_EST_IA,6.2
HUN_Avar_Szolad,5.8
BGR_IA,1.4
RUS_Ingria_IA,1.2
HRV_Early_IA,0.4
SWE_IA,0.4
HRV_MBA,0.2


________
My wife

[1] "distance%=1.0702"

ph2ter_wife

BALTO-SLAVIC,64.6
BALKAN,20.6
SOUTHEAST_GERMANIC,9.8
ROMAN,3.2
NORDIC-BALTIC,1.8


My father:
[1] "distance%=0.8587"

ph2ter_dad

BALTO-SLAVIC,60.6
BALKAN,23.4
SOUTHEAST_GERMANIC,7.6
ROMAN,7.2
NORDIC-BALTIC,1.2


My son:
[1] "distance%=0.9728"

ph2ter_son

BALTO-SLAVIC,60.6
BALKAN,25.8
ROMAN,6.2
SOUTHEAST_GERMANIC,6.2
NORDIC-BALTIC,1.2


me:
[1] "distance%=0.78"

ph2ter

BALTO-SLAVIC,59
SOUTHEAST_GERMANIC,20
BALKAN,12.2
NORDIC-BALTIC,4.4
ROMAN,4.4

Bessarion has serious Germanic admixture !

Quote:

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Originally Posted by ph2ter

Yes.

[1] "distance%=1.2975"

Bessarion

BALTO-SLAVIC,48.6
SOUTHEAST_GERMANIC,33.8
ROMAN,9.4
BALKAN,7.8
NORDIC-BALTIC,0.4


[1] "distance%=1.307"

Bessarion

CZE_Early_Slav,36.6
DEU_MA,32.6
ITA_Collegno_MA_o1,8.4
Scythian_MDA,6.8
Baltic_EST_IA,6.2
HUN_Avar_Szolad,5.8
BGR_IA,1.4
RUS_Ingria_IA,1.2
HRV_Early_IA,0.4
SWE_IA,0.4
HRV_MBA,0.2


________
My wife

[1] "distance%=1.0702"

ph2ter_wife

BALTO-SLAVIC,64.6
BALKAN,20.6
SOUTHEAST_GERMANIC,9.8
ROMAN,3.2
NORDIC-BALTIC,1.8


My father:
[1] "distance%=0.8587"

ph2ter_dad

BALTO-SLAVIC,60.6
BALKAN,23.4
SOUTHEAST_GERMANIC,7.6
ROMAN,7.2
NORDIC-BALTIC,1.2


My son:
[1] "distance%=0.9728"

ph2ter_son

BALTO-SLAVIC,60.6
BALKAN,25.8
ROMAN,6.2
SOUTHEAST_GERMANIC,6.2
NORDIC-BALTIC,1.2


me:
[1] "distance%=0.78"

ph2ter

BALTO-SLAVIC,59
SOUTHEAST_GERMANIC,20
BALKAN,12.2
NORDIC-BALTIC,4.4
ROMAN,4.4

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Thanks for the work...btw. what sample is this DEU_MA.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Bessarion

btw. what sample is this DEU_MA.

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Medieval Germany

"fit": 1.3862,

"RUS_Ingria_IA": 26.67,
"BGR_IA": 23.33,
"Scythian_MDA": 22.5,
"ITA_Collegno_MA_o1": 12.5,
"DEU_MA": 9.17,
"HUN_Avar_Szolad": 3.33,
"Baltic_EST_IA": 2.5,
"CZE_Early_Slav": 0,
"HRV_Early_IA": 0,
"HRV_MBA": 0,
"SWE_IA": 0,


"closestDistances": [

"DEU_MA:AED_1135: 4.483054",
"HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1: 5.465189",
"CZE_Early_Slav:RISE569: 5.484033",
"Scythian_MDA:scy305: 6.356073",
"HRV_MBA:I4331: 6.549989",
"DEU_MA:ALH_3: 6.628341

Where do i get my coordinates from?

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Originally Posted by Ljubic

Where do i get my coordinates from?

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http://bga101.blogspot.com/2018/02/t...available.html